Corona virus, Port and the AFL.

[Lagooner]

I don't mean take your super out I mean 2% more of people's take home is going into your super. So at a time when consumer confidence is up shit creek and spending will be down, the government pushes ahead with a law that will take more money out of people's pockets. I don't agree with forced super to the point of 12.5% it's ridiculous. Even if you agree with it, continuing to implement it now is madness, pause it for a decade.

I don’t get this. Super contributions are currently in addition to your wage, not from it, calculated at 9.5% of your gross. The only exception to this is if you want to voluntarily pay more, which you can but out of your gross pre-tax up to an additional 6.5%.

Are you saying the increases planned over the next few years are being seperated like this, so the current 9.5% in addition remains and the 0.5-3.0% increase becomes a mandatory contribution from gross but pre-tax?

 

[raptalia]

How does that work because Tassie had something like 12 new cases? The rest of Australia had 2? I'm not buying it. Our figures are dodgier than the Chinese ATM

I know, the figure I have comes from the ABC and they are usually close to the ultimate DOH figure. The DOH hasn't updated yet as I suspect they were waiting for results to come in from a few States of which Tassie may have been one. When they do eventually post the day's official figures they are timed as at 3.00pm even though they don't get posted until after 5.00p.m. and even then they may get mysteriously amended as happened yeasterday.

Yeah, I know, I too have doubts.

 

[raptalia]

One of the passengers from the Uruguay flight has gone straight to the Prince Alfred PAFC66

Past My Primus territory.

Even worse they had to leave a couple of critical cases in Uruguay. I would hate to be the partner of one of those people as you would have to choose to stay knowing you may never get to see your loved one alive again or fly home knowing he or she is in some foreign hospital with which you have only embassy contact. Terrible choice to have to make.

 

[raptalia]

Official figure finally in at 6313. That is a rise of 24 in the 24 hrs to 3.00 pm EST. Still pretty good.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Past My Primus territory.

Even worse they had to leave a couple of critical cases in Uruguay. I would hate to be the partner of one of those people as you would have to choose to stay knowing you may never get to see your loved one alive again or fly home knowing he or she is in some foreign hospital with which you have only embassy contact. Terrible choice to have to make.

Past my Primus is in Ballarat. I think PAFC66 is at the Alfred.

 

[Del165198]

brazil has done 296 tests per million pop

62,000 tests for 20,000 positives so 1 in 3

GremioPower are there strict measures in place now or are people still doing as they please?

 

[Forzaport]

Don't get too cocky.

Tasmania to close two hospitals due to coronavirus outbreak
Posted 43mminutes ago, updated 19mminutes ago

Tasmania's Premier Peter Gutwein says the North West Regional Hospital and North West Private Hospital in Burnie will close because of the coronavirus outbreak.

All staff and members of their households — more than 1,000 people — will go into quarantine for two weeks.

The hospitals will be closed for a deep clean.

"We're sorry that we've needed to do this but at the end of the day we need to get on top of this," Mr Gutwein said.

Of the 133 cases in Tasmania, 61 are linked to the north-west coast and 35 are healthcare workers at the hospitals.

Five people have died of coronavirus in the state, with the latest death confirmed this morning.

Mr Gutwein also announced restrictions on retailers in the north-west region from midnight tonight.

Under the restrictions, all businesses except for those offering medical services as well as pharmacies, supermarkets, businesses providing food, takeaway businesses, bakeries, service stations, laundromats, newsagents, bottle shops, banks and veterinary services will remain closed for two weeks.

K-Mart, Target and Harvey Norman will have to close, while hardware store Bunnings will remain open for trade customers only.

"I would hope that at the end of this two-week period that we will be able to lift some of these restrictions," Mr Gutwein said.

"We will keep it under review and, again, it will be determined by whether or not there is community transmission across the north-west coast."

"It is important that we do everything that we possibly can to stamp this out right now and I make no apologies for the measures we are putting in place.

"They are firm, some people will see them as being harsh, but we need to get on top of this."

Tasmania closes two hospitals to 'stamp out' coronavirus outbreak

Tasmania's Premier Peter Gutwein says the North West Regional Hospital and North West Private Hospital in Burnie close today because of the coronavirus outbreak.

mobile.abc.net.au

Hang on, Tasmania having the capacity to close hospitals for cleaning and brutally minimise risk of community spread by pinpointing a potential major outbreak source in their state is a great thing. They'll be the first state to loosen restrictions at this rate.

 

[Del165198]

Official figure finally in at 6313. That is a rise of 24 in the 24 hrs to 3.00 pm EST. Still pretty good.

its very good but i wonder how NSW has gone from +200 cases a day to bugger all in the space of a couple of weeks. that hasn't really happened anywhere and it's not like people have been following a strict lockdown

just smells fishy to me somehow

 

[Del165198]

Hang on, Tasmania having the capacity to close hospitals for cleaning and brutally minimise risk of community spread by pinpointing a potential major outbreak source in their state is a great thing. They'll be the first state to loosen restrictions at this rate.

hope so. new cases have all pretty much been related to the NW hospital, only 1 or 2 elsewhere in recent days.

i'm hoping i can travel back to SA at christmas time but who knows. interstate travel might take a while. the thought of the ferry or plane doesn't fill me with joy. be alright if i could just sit in the car the whole time on the ferry or have a snooze in the back..

 

[PA88]

SA Health and state government dashboard reporting 0 new cases.

I'm not on twitter. I check the sahealth.gov site every morning for yesterday's final updates.

 

[pastmyprimus]

Past my Primus is in Ballarat. I think PAFC66 is at the Alfred.

I watched the Ch10 Melbourne news. 70% of the passengers on the flight from Uruguay apparently have covid. There was a fleet of ambulances parked next to the plane. Buses too. The acute and critical cases would go straight to a hospital. The rest would be transported to a hotel by bus for a mandatory 14 day quarantine period. Some would stay at the Crown.

 

[StrappingTape]

I don’t get this. Super contributions are currently in addition to your wage, not from it, calculated at 9.5% of your gross. The only exception to this is if you want to voluntarily pay more, which you can but out of your gross pre-tax up to an additional 6.5%.

Are you saying the increases planned over the next few years are being seperated like this, so the current 9.5% in addition remains and the 0.5-3.0% increase becomes a mandatory contribution from gross but pre-tax?

It is all your wage. When it goes up in steps each step you'll be less and less in your take home part, you don't just get more money in your super contributions and you pay slip stays the same.

 

[StrappingTape]

I watched the Ch10 Melbourne news. 70% of the passengers on the flight from Uruguay apparently have covid. There was a fleet of ambulances parked next to the plane. Buses too. The acute and critical cases would go straight to a hospital. The rest would be transported to a hotel by bus for a mandatory 14 day quarantine period. Some would stay at the Crown.

So the original SARS I believe they found travelled in apartment buildings through the ventilation ducts. One thing about the plan to house people in the same hotel together, if one does get it or say like these cruise people all the mild-low symptoms victims are going to go into a hotel then I would hope we knew for sure that there's no possibility that housing sick people in the hotel is not just distributing the virus through the rest of the guests via the AC?

 

[raptalia]

That must be about all the Qantas staff working at the Adelaide Airport. where are they going to get replacements from?

About 750 Qantas staff working at Adelaide Airport have been asked to self-quarantine for two weeks amid concerns over a cluster of coronavirus cases that has spread from baggage handlers to other airline staff.
The move comes as South Australia recorded no new virus cases on Sunday but also confirmed a fourth death from the disease.

The airline cluster stands at 34, including 18 baggage handlers, 13 of their close contacts and three other Qantas staff.

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www.adelaidenow.com.au

 

[raman]

It is all your wage. When it goes up in steps each step you'll be less and less in your take home part, you don't just get more money in your super contributions and you pay slip stays the same.

Not based on any employer I've had. While some (shitty) employers like to construe your salary as a "package" including Super, the compulsory Super component is all on them. I remember getting a 0.5% "raise" when the compulsory rate went from 9.0 to 9.5... take-home stayed the same.

 

[pastmyprimus]

It is all your wage. When it goes up in steps each step you'll be less and less in your take home part, you don't just get more money in your super contributions and you're pay slip stays the same.

I think it can depend. I'm a public hospital employee, and increases in the super guarantee are payments on top of my salary. My take home pay isn't affected. More gets paid to my super fund.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

I'm not on twitter. I check the sahealth.gov site every morning for yesterday's final updates.

SA Health releases its figures around 4pm weekdays and updates the dashboard around 6pm.

I don't go by what the news outlets report.

 

[raptalia]

It is all your wage. When it goes up in steps each step you'll be less and less in your take home part, you don't just get more money in your super contributions and you pay slip stays the same.

In steps up until it reaches 12% in 2025. It does not start increasing until 2021. If the Australian economy is still in recession in 2025 we will be in the midst of a depression and many people will not have a job anyway. Look at the ATO schedule I attached a few posts back and you will see the incemental increases over the next five years. If you are worried about less pay you have nothing to worry about until July next year and hopefully we will have a vaccine by then.

 

[StrappingTape]

I think it can depend. I'm a public hospital employee, and increases in the super guarantee are payments on top of my salary. My take home pay isn't affected. More gets paid to my super fund.

Well yeah the employer can obviously give everyone the 0.5% pay rise for each one but the great majority aren't going to be in that position. At the end of the day employees will take the hit one way or another.

"Grattan Institute calculations suggest that lifting compulsory super to 12% by 2025 will take up to A$20 billion a year from workers’ pockets. For most, the trade-off isn’t worth it."

Interesting read here:
https://theconversation.com/super-s...ake-middle-australia-poorer-not-richer-120002

"How much poorer? We calculate that, after adjusting for inflation, the typical (median) 30-year-old Australian worker earning A$58,000 today would lose about 2.5% of wages each year and get less than a 1% boost to retirement income.


As a result, that person’s lifetime income would be almost 1% lower – about A$30,000 lower."

I'm not sure in times of Coronavirus that Super is going to be too popular a thing for a while so a good chance some political sense ramps up about this.

 

[chiwigi]

Murdoch control denial is a hundred times dumber than climate change denial!

 

[Leaveit2charlie]

Shouldn't they all be in a corona hotel for 14 days? So none of the people coming now should theoretically be able to get free so to speak?

There’s security guards watching homes of those who must quarantine.

 

[DaTBird187]

its very good but i wonder how NSW has gone from +200 cases a day to bugger all in the space of a couple of weeks. that hasn't really happened anywhere and it's not like people have been following a strict lockdown

just smells fishy to me somehow

not really, when you factor in overseas arrivals and cruise ships are a huge percentage of the overall total. Both have virtually stopped.

 

[edgie]

3 new cases in Victoria, good result. Vic reporting 2000 tests so no dip there.

*edit* NSW reporting only 7 new cases, but revised their total down by 10. Also reporting much reduced testing for the period.

Slack ****ers aren't checking tests. I've been waiting six days for a result.

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[Lagooner]

It is all your wage. When it goes up in steps each step you'll be less and less in your take home part, you don't just get more money in your super contributions and you pay slip stays the same.

If my take home pay stays the same then any increase in super is additional money that I’m not currently receiving. How am I worse off? The only way I’d be could be in the short term is if they decreased my take home to fund the increase in super as per the example in my query. Otherwise I’m ahead.

 

[edgie]

Bored looking up Port v WCE stats.

Weve played 34 times.

Port lead 19-15

But weve kicked 415 goals to Ports 396.

Shows how many classic close games theres been.

Edit* wrong stat sorry hahaha

Its port 450 to 415.

Oh well back to bed

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Pretty sure yous had the biggest win over us til 2007. Funny enough the next week we went out and best Hawthorn by the same margin. Quite a turnaround.

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