Corona virus, Port and the AFL.

[Del165198]

Compared to his bushfire handling disaster, scomo has been an absolute pro by comparison so far. Until now..

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has issued a direct plea to teachers to return to the classroom and join the “great heroes” of Australia including cleaners, supermarket workers, nurses and paramedics who are fighting COVID-19 simply by doing their jobs.

Warning parents the education of the nation’s children was “hanging in the balance”, he urged principals and teachers’ unions to hold talks on how classrooms could be made safe.

that'd be the same education system successive liberal governments have cut to shit to fund private schools would it, Scott? Pig.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

 

[Nemisis]

Lead by example I say, if we had nothing to dig up then we would be far more progressive, that’s the bit that bothers me with the whole renewable economy, it’s staring us in the face that we can actually make a difference.

Why do people hold hope on men in white coats regarding Corvid vaccine but discount them climate change - money, power, greed, profits....

i agree it needs a global approach but there is nothing wrong with setting an example.

I know people who take between 15-20 domestic flights + 5+ international flights per year and call themselves 'greenies'. According to consumer group Choice, flying from A Sydney to London return trip produces the same amount of carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions as running the average air conditioner in the living room during the day for 7133 hours. Everybody has to wake up to their own CONSUMPTION...

 

[PA88]

5400 rolls? Divided by 10 rolls per pack (keeping it a simple average) gives 540 packs. To not be noticed of bulk buying he would've had to visit at least 100 stores or fewer stores with multiple noticeable visits or had a few helpers. There's enough bulk buying in this example let alone every other example to not go unnoticed by the supermarkets. Supermarket managers are escaping scrutiny. Perhaps I'm being unfair.

 

[Nelso]

There will be no games with spectators this season.

Government would be very foolish if they took that risk.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

5400 rolls? Divided by 10 rolls per pack (keeping it a simple average) gives 540 packs. To not be noticed of bulk buying he would've had to visit at least 100 stores or fewer stores with multiple noticeable visits or had a few helpers. There's enough bulk buying in this example let alone every other example to not go unnoticed by the supermarkets. Supermarket managers are escaping scrutiny. Perhaps I'm being unfair.

You are being unfair.

Some packs have 32 rolls. Others have more. The limits were introduced after hoarding was running wild. He may have had other family members helping him.

He is the problem.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

5400 rolls? Divided by 10 rolls per pack (keeping it a simple average) gives 540 packs. To not be noticed of bulk buying he would've had to visit at least 100 stores or fewer stores with multiple noticeable visits or had a few helpers. There's enough bulk buying in this example let alone every other example to not go unnoticed by the supermarkets. Supermarket managers are escaping scrutiny. Perhaps I'm being unfair.

I read it wasn't just one guy but a whole family or something like that.

 

[Doctor Feel]

 

[PA88]

I'm sure that teachers don't make the decision to open or close schools. What stupid media headlines and an odd plea by the PM.

State governments make those decisions and my understanding is that state schools in SA and most other states will remain open. However parents will choose to keep children at home or send them to school but all students will be taught via online whether at home or at school.

Pretty easy for the PM to get right but he's obviously only in tune with private schools where some of those have chosen to close without further government funding.

How can schools be considered safer than any other highly populated place? Is the medical advice really correct on this? About 8 schools across the land had cases, maybe more, I think 4 in SA? Yeah really safe.

I invite being corrected with any of the above.

 

[PA88]

I read it wasn't just one guy but a whole family or something like that.

Still, a lot of hoarding all round to impose measures sooner imo.

 

[Garibaldi Red]

5400 rolls? Divided by 10 rolls per pack (keeping it a simple average) gives 540 packs. To not be noticed of bulk buying he would've had to visit at least 100 stores or fewer stores with multiple noticeable visits or had a few helpers. There's enough bulk buying in this example let alone every other example to not go unnoticed by the supermarkets. Supermarket managers are escaping scrutiny. Perhaps I'm being unfair.

I read it wasn't just one guy but a whole family or something like that.

It was reported that he had 20 people working for him, and the majority of the packs were 32 rolls.

He thought he was being fair when he offered a discount to the store owner.

 

[PA88]

You are being unfair.

Some packs have 32 rolls. Others have more. The limits were introduced after hoarding was running wild. He may have had other family members helping him.

He is the problem.

Not just one example. There were instant shortages of many items occurring for long enough before imposing measures.

 

[manureid]

He also has 150 units of 1 litre hand sanitiser.

They probably should have taken his details and said they would get back to him and then let the police pay him a visit and 'recommend'he donate them.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Not just one example. There were instant shortages of many items occurring for long enough before imposing measures.

And this is based on your vast experience of running supermarkets during global pandemics is it?

Shit happened quicker than anyone thought possible or did you foresee this all in January oh great oracle?

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Compared "Confirmed Cases per Day" vs "Recovered per Day"
Plot below.
The data for "Recovered per Day" is quite noisy so I have run a moving average through both plots.
Rather than guess when we should start to lift our restrictions I wanted to see for myself what a reasonable assessment of timing for relaxing restrictions might be.
To me there is a critical point on or about the 6 April when the "confirmed cases per day" dropped behind the "recoveries per day".
It certainly marks a point for me when consideration and planning for a letup might be.
But only a fool would have suggested a letup on the 6 April.
A safety factor needs to be built in signalling a time to act. To me that safety factor should not be measured in "days" or "weeks" but rather units of "incubation time". An article appeared in The Conversation website indicating that the usual incubation period of 4-6 days with a maximum of 14 days.
I reckon we should start to lift some restrictions - partially - 2 incubation periods after (2 x 14 days = 28) the 6 April. That makes it around 4 May.
If anything goes pear shaped between now and then this line of thought falls apart.
The big problem for me is whether the reported data has bias. After all, these are people who have either been pulled into care or who have shown onset symptoms dangerous anough to report to hospital or test site. Or those who have fallen off a ship.
I have also read reports that data on recovery can be a bit suspect.
Be interesting to see what the gurus are going to present this week.
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The recovery data isn't just noisy, it's unreliable. NSW still don't report daily totals, and the only figure for them came from the Australian Government figures around a week ago. Queensland only report sporadically so even a moving average can be jumpy.

 

[raptalia]

5400 rolls? Divided by 10 rolls per pack (keeping it a simple average) gives 540 packs. To not be noticed of bulk buying he would've had to visit at least 100 stores or fewer stores with multiple noticeable visits or had a few helpers. There's enough bulk buying in this example let alone every other example to not go unnoticed by the supermarkets. Supermarket managers are escaping scrutiny. Perhaps I'm being unfair.

What these enterprising guys did was to organise into small gangs and raid the supermarket shelves. There was a story on NINE about it. The people in this story were filmed in a warehouse in Sydney shifting pallet loads of toilet paper etc into shipping containers for shipment overseas. The Government has since applied a ban to non commercial exports.

The guy who bought 5400 rolls of toilet paper was not breaking any laws but you have to think he should have been. You almost want someone to publish his name and address and see what happens but that would be asking for trouble.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Well done to John-Paul Drake.

Apparently last week some dickhead who had stockpiled 5000 rolls of toilet paper rang Drakes looking for a refund. All he got was a spray from Mr Drake. This low life was apparently advertising the rolls on E Bay until his account was shut down so he tried Drakes for a refund.

Some where in Adelaide there is a low life hoarder sitting on a shed load of shit paper.

Meanwhile there's still lots of Drake supermarkets that can't get stock on shelves and lots of people who can't get access to toilet paper.

Awesome decision John-Paul.

If he'd refunded the dickhead and taken the stock back, then people who need the products might actually be able to buy them. And if he'd refunded the guy, then really said horder would've lost money since its been sitting in Drake's accounts for the last two months instead of the other guys. But no, he instead got to flip said dude off. Such an awesome result for the rest of Drake's customers.

Mind you, its only 150-odd packs so it probably wouldn't last long on the shelves anyway.

 

[raptalia]

Meanwhile there's still lots of Drake supermarkets that can't get stock on shelves and lots of people who can't get access to toilet paper.

Awesome decision John-Paul.

If he'd refunded the dickhead and taken the stock back, then people who need the products might actually be able to buy them. And if he'd refunded the guy, then really said horder would've lost money since its been sitting in Drake's accounts for the last two months instead of the other guys. But no, he instead got to flip said dude off. Such an awesome result for the rest of Drake's customers.

Mind you, its only 150-odd packs so it probably wouldn't last long on the shelves anyway.

You cannot buy toilet paper off the shelf at my local Drakes. You have to ask a staff member for it and then you only get one two roll pack. I went over this morning and there is none in Drakes or Woolies. The stuff is rationed and according to the supermarkets it is being produced at double the normal rate yet it is still going off the shelves and the pallets. Some people must be doing twenty trips to the supermarket each day.

I have it figured out though, I have given up shitting. It is an addictive habit any way as once you start you cannot stop.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

It was reported that he had 20 people working for him, and the majority of the packs were 32 rolls.

He thought he was being fair when he offered a discount to the store owner.

Not much of a collection for 20-odd people. 4-5 packs each. Clearly isn't Chinese daigou, who would be punished for that pathetic stocking effort.

 

[raptalia]

Please do not mention Chinese in the same sentence as toilet rolls. These guys have the right idea ...

 

[Smithy7]

Well done to John-Paul Drake.

Apparently last week some dickhead who had stockpiled 5000 rolls of toilet paper rang Drakes looking for a refund. All he got was a spray from Mr Drake. This low life was apparently advertising the rolls on E Bay until his account was shut down so he tried Drakes for a refund.

Some where in Adelaide there is a low life hoarder sitting on a shed load of shit paper.

Given the finger

 

[PA88]

And this is based on your vast experience of running supermarkets during global pandemics is it?

Shit happened quicker than anyone thought possible or did you foresee this all in January oh great oracle?

Ok lol. We once got upset over Farmers Union spilt milk but now don't **** with my toilet paper.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Ok lol. We once got upset over Farmers Union spilt milk but now don't fu** with my toilet paper.

Bit early for bong water isn’t it?

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Shoppers have stopped hoarding and instead are bunkering down with sharp falls in spending across the board with Victorian and NSW consumers snapping their wallets tight.
Figures compiled by the Commonwealth Bank based on its extensive credit and debit card network suggests the combination of coronavirus-linked shutdowns and early hoarding is now hitting the entire retail sector.
In the week to April 10, spending on clothing is now 58 per cent lower than for the same time last year. Transport spending (44 per cent), personal care and beauty products (61 per cent) and recreation (37 per cent) have also recorded huge falls.

 

[Grave Danger]