Corona virus, Port and the AFL.

[manureid]

We didnt go hard enough early. We are 2 weeks behind the 8ball. Shit is going to go down hill man.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

We didnt go hard enough early. We are 2 weeks behind the 8ball. Shit is going to go down hill man.

Forget two weeks behind you can wind it back to January

 

[manureid]

Forget two weeks behind you can wind it back to January

Was thinking today, with the benefit of hindsight I wonder how much harder the government would go now. Shut the borders straight away, no shitting around. Actually quarantine everyone who arrives in the country.

 

[PA88]

The ‘woke quotient’ being shamelessly displayed across all facets of this thing is something else.

A Facebook Karen accused me of racism and xenophobia for saying that H1N1 originated in Mexico and the United States

It is immaturity. As a reaction to their complaint I (purposely) accelerated the fire by stating "WHO should have implored nations to block travel from China until it was properly established what in the hell was happening over there, given that China 'delayed' reporting their epidemic." Thus a second complaint was laid and now less people greet me. They just don't get that this is not racism. I can't work out where their heads are at.

 

[Established1870]

Do people reckon self-isolating for 14 days for interstaters like it is in NT and Tassie might come into effect soon across all the other states? Got a family event and my mums birthday next month but I doubt I'll go to Adelaide for either with the way things are.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

Was thinking today, with the benefit of hindsight I wonder how much harder the government would go now. Shut the borders straight away, no shitting around. Actually quarantine everyone who arrives in the country.

Governments are more concerned about the economy than the health of the people they will always be reactive not proactive.

Insert <Until it swims up & bites you on the ass.jaws.jpeg> here

 

[manureid]

And all of these dipshits like at Bondi giving it all "this virus wont stop me partying', 'will only kill old people'. Well, when you take a dodgy party drug, or come off your motorbike or have a car crash and turn up at a full ICU, good luck campaigner.

 

[Pappagallo]

Was thinking today, with the benefit of hindsight I wonder how much harder the government would go now. Shut the borders straight away, no shitting around. Actually quarantine everyone who arrives in the country.

Yep and none of this uncontrollable self-imposed bullshit either. We should be quarantining all new arrivals in detention centres for 14 days no ifs, buts or maybes. Citizens, PRs, tourists, the lot.

 

[Alberton Proud]

People slagging off NSW for their lax attitude quite rightly

I went out today and thousands of people packed into cafes and pubs here in Adelaide

By all means let people go out but have cops policing it
On the spot fines or temporarily closing businesses that don’t enforce it

people are greedy, self centred and stupid

 

[Butters Made Me Do It]

maybe pay hospo staff to go on sabbatical and the cafes wont be able to open. better response than fun cops.

 

[Interstater]

People slagging off NSW for their lax attitude quite rightly

I went out today and thousands of people packed into cafes and pubs here in Adelaide

By all means let people go out but have cops policing it
On the spot fines or temporarily closing businesses that don’t enforce it

people are greedy, self centred and stupid

This is really disturbing, I have half my family going to a wedding next week and even if they comply to the 4m^2 someone else is going to have it and pass it around. Shit.

 

[Winganeen]

We didnt go hard enough early. We are 2 weeks behind the 8ball. Shit is going to go down hill man.

"Yep, nah, y'know its tough... We just didnt go hard enough for long enough and in the end, they were just too strong.... "

 

[pastmyprimus]

I'd like to see a Royal Commission into our response to COVID-19 at the end of all this. Morrison announced one for the recent bushfires. A lot more people will die from COVID-19.

Important lessons need to be learned. But it won't happen under Morrison. His government will cop too much of the blame.

 

[OneGreatClub]

We'd be safe if it wasn't for ******* Americans.

No no it ‘s Chyna

 

[raptalia]

Do people reckon self-isolating for 14 days for interstaters like it is in NT and Tassie might come into effect soon across all the other states? Got a family event and my mums birthday next month but I doubt I'll go to Adelaide for either with the way things are.

I reckon it should come into effect I no longer trust the dickheads running the State of NSW.

 

[Established1870]

No no it ‘s Chyna

What does the 9th Wonder of the World have to do with Coronavirus?

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

Wedding venues would be pulling the pin already or be very close to it

 

[MaxPowa]

Just so you know, I am the one that came up with the 4m^2 rule.
However, it wasn't 4m^2 when I proposed it, it was 7m^2.

- pi x r^2 = area of a circle
- we are supposed to remain at 1.5 metres away from others (r = 1.5)
- therefore people require a circle of 7 m^2

It was reduced to 4m^2 by adopting a 2m x 2m square instead of a circle of 1.5m radius.

As I see it, setting indoor static room capacities as: room area / 4 is a hell of a lot better than allowing a maximum of 100 people to be static in an indoor room the size of a phone box.

It was always meant to be for static rooms, i.e. where people remain in a single location for more than 15 minutes, like in a pub or a restaurant or in an office environment. Hell they are adopting it for parliament now and will only be allowing 100 people in the lower house.

It allows for the establishments to remain open while providing clarity on how to manage capacities to keep people safe.

Of course if (room size/4) number of people all stand in the same part of the room then there's nothing that can be done.
You can't effectively police stupid without a blanket ban.

If it saves even one life by preventing overcrowding in static indoor spaces, then I'm happy for you to call me an idiot forever for suggesting it to the decision makers. The alternative was to shut the pubs/restaurants/offices/parliament, some will choose to close, but others will make the rules work.

Great that you have chosen this arbitrary measure, it's a very neat formula that may work well in theory, but is patently obsurd when you factor in human behaviour. People go to bars and restaurants to socialise, you could put 2 people in a 100sqm room and they will stand right next to each other because that is what they are there for. In what imaginary universe will people enter a venue and space each other keeping the minimum safe distance that underpins your model. It becomes even more ridiculous when you imagine a venue at capacity where each individual is standing in a perfect grid to validate the reasoning behind the 4sqm box that underpins your model. The human factor is what makes this ridiculous, no one will follow the behaviour that underpins your assumptions.

 

[MaxPowa]

Well after two games the VFL part of AFL have been completed. Noted these 4 teams lived locally, hence no interstate travel. Now today the AFL part of the AFL commences. For example Sydney will travel to Adelaide and we travel to the Gold Coast. A completely different scenario from the previous two nights.
Shut the game down now!
Or perhaps the AFL have unlimited funds to fight compensation claims if this travel causes problems.
For the protection of our players from this pandemic, shut the game down now!
Have some b—lls AFL!
This is now getting dangerous!

How are the players in danger they are following strict protocols and are in one of the categories least likely to be impacted by the virus. For the low risk that holding these shut out games presents they provide a great source of stability and comfort not only to Austrlaians but people around the world. Calm your farm.

 

[MaxPowa]

Mutterings about doing that here in the ACT as all of our cases to date are from international travellers (most getting off the plane in Sydney then using public transport to get here). The voluntary rules aren't worth the paper they're not printed on.

If it does happen here, i'll take bets on how many hours it takes before some left wing ratbag raises a High Court challenge on constitutional grounds.

Yes, honouring the constitution is so passe. How about we just suspend habeas corpus too and just execute anyone who stands closer than 1.5m from someone else since we have to stop the virus no matter what even if it means chucking away the fundamentals of our society because young healthy people in their thousands are dying in the streets...oh wait, so far with over 1000 cases noted and over 125,000 tests done 7 are dead, average age in the early 80s. Definitely worth throwing the constitution out for. Our forebears would be disgusted at us and this panic.

 

[snozulu]

 

[Boxx]

So, with Steve Marshall about to shut South Australia’s borders - I assume after the Showdown that AFL is off for the 2 SA clubs...

 

[Leaveit2charlie]

So, with Steve Marshall about to shut South Australia’s borders - I assume after the Showdown that AFL is off for the 2 SA clubs...

Would put that down as a given at least till maybe June. The AFL is on hold for a few months.

 

[sobrave]

The numbers everywhere are getting scary. Shut it down you maroons.

 

[GremioPower]

“Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who don’t understand.

It has to do with RNA sequencing...i.e. genetics.

Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year. You get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.

Novel viruses come from animals. The WHO tracks novel viruses in animals (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1, birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once one of these animal viruses mutates and starts to transfer from animals to humans...then it’s a problem. Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity. The RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it, so we can’t fight it off.

Now...sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human. For years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human. Once that happens, we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, that’s what decides how contagious, or how deadly, it’s going to be.

H1N1 was deadly, but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. Its RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.
Fast forward.

Now, here comes this Coronavirus. It existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long. But one day, at an animal market in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person. But here is the scary part. In just TWO WEEKS, it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery”.

This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity), took off like a rocket. And this was because humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it.

And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs.
That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1, or any other type of influenza...this one is slippery AF. And it’s a lung eater. And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain S and strain L...which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.

We really have no tools in our shed with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.

Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him till the Black Plague passed (honestly, I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation.

And let me end by saying...right now it’s hitting older folks harder...but this genome is so slippery, if it mutates again (and it will), who is to say what it will do next.

!!!!flattenthecurve. Stay home folks. And share this to those that just are not catching on."

Credit to Estrelita Estrella"

Are the Chinese lying about their numbers, then?!