Corona virus, Port and the AFL.

[Duckimus Prime]

I have so much hate for these people.
- 4937 sold

Will never ever buy anything on ebay.
36 roll pack on Coles online website normally $14.

View attachment 858248

Normal Retail Price for those 6 packs is $5.50 at Coles. So 5 of them would cost $27.50, and shipping for something that bulky would easily be over $10.

The vast majority of that price there is the "FREE Standard Postage".

Thats not the pricing of someone that has horded from the supermarket, just someone that orders in bulk from the manufacturer and resells. You might as well hate on Coles and Woolworths.

 

[edgie]

How Do you reckon you'd get on without a car in Strahan or Broken Hill?

Speaking from experience, easy.

 

[edgie]

Why do you care then?

Because hypocrisy shits me. Because the generation that are supposedly starting a cultural change aren't putting their skin in the game.

Me infrequently driving a car that will likely be outdated junk before our lives are over maybe isn't helping, but me not going overseas is kinda doing a bit more than the people that want to make a difference more than I. Only having three phones in the last dozen years. One computer since 2011. New clothes only when I need. No pointless home renovations. In general not buying in to a consumerist culture that encourages wastage. We make it we bin it we make it again slightly differently.

Neoliberalism has conned us into fighting climate change as individuals | Martin Lukacs

Stop obsessing with how personally green you live – and start collectively taking on corporate power

www.theguardian.com

The good news is that the impulse of humans to come together is inextinguishable – and the collective imagination is already making a political come-back. The climate justice movement is blocking pipelines, forcing the divestment of trillions of dollars, and winning support for 100% clean energy economies in cities and states across the world. New ties are being drawn to Black Lives Matter, immigrant and Indigenous rights, and fights for better wages. On the heels of such movements, political parties seem finally ready to defy neoliberal dogma.

None more so than Jeremy Corbyn, whose Labour Manifesto spelled out a redistributive project to address climate change: by publicly retooling the economy, and insisting that corporate oligarchs no longer run amok. The notion that the rich should pay their fair share to fund this transformation was considered laughable by the political and media class. Millions disagreed. Society, long said to be departed, is now back with a vengeance.

Tell me, how has that worked out?

 

[Magus]

Because hypocrisy shits me. Because the generation that are supposedly starting a cultural change aren't putting their skin in the game.

Me infrequently driving a car that will likely be outdated junk before our lives are over maybe isn't helping, but me not going overseas is kinda doing a bit more than the people that want to make a difference more than I. Only having three phones in the last dozen years. One computer since 2011. New clothes only when I need. In general not buying in to a consumerist culture that encourages wastage. We make it we bin it we make it again slightly differently.

The pollution caused by driving that old relic around town would be nothing compared to the pollution caused by manufacturing a brand new vehicle, no matter how eco friendly it is

 

[edgie]

The pollution caused by driving that old relic around town would be nothing compared to the pollution caused by manufacturing a brand new vehicle, no matter how eco friendly it is

The harsh reality is without being a consumerist society, what's the go? Where do we go when no one gets anything unless they need it? And nobody is needed to keep making and selling stuff?

**** knows if everyone lived like me the streets would be empty, and who does that help?

I genuinely don't know.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Renewables have reached their physical limits and do not provide a reliable source of electricity. There’s only 1 technology available today that produces no carbon emissions and is a reliable source of electricity.

Haven't even started with tidal power and wave power and these are 24/7 renewable energy sources. The tides never stop.

Then there is hydro power. There are plenty of ways that rivers haven't been taped to generate power that doesn't involve building huge dams.

 

[Del165198]

Did you read the link in that article of the top polluters? Amongst the top 10 is Russian, Indian and Chinese coal and Saudi and Iranian oil companies.
Would love to know how you bring these guys down.

Reduce our reliance on oil and coal? As of 2017 we 83% of our oil processed at refineries was imported from overseas

 

[Del165198]

Haven't even started with tidal power and wave power and these are 24/7 renewable energy sources. The tides never stop.

Then there is hydro power. There are plenty of ways that rivers haven't been taped to generate power that doesn't involve building huge dams.

We haven't yet got solar panels on every roof, etc.

 

[Del165198]

Because hypocrisy shits me. Because the generation that are supposedly starting a cultural change aren't putting their skin in the game.

Me infrequently driving a car that will likely be outdated junk before our lives are over maybe isn't helping, but me not going overseas is kinda doing a bit more than the people that want to make a difference more than I. Only having three phones in the last dozen years. One computer since 2011. New clothes only when I need. No pointless home renovations. In general not buying in to a consumerist culture that encourages wastage. We make it we bin it we make it again slightly different

This is just a sweeping generalisation though. Plenty of millennials are putting their skin in the game, and so are plenty of boomers.

Owning a phone doesn't make you a hypocrite for say.. not wanting Adani to build a big **** off coal mine in Queensland and dump the slurry on what's left of the barrier Reef.

 

[Canoogs]

Developing a cold on the day that a testing blitz is announced in SA. Guess I need to work out how to get into a clinic.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

SA 0 new cases reported today, down to one case in ICU.

 

[Portology]

I'm not a climate change activist.

Also, never, on moral, ethical, financial, and social reasons.

Sent from my Nokia 7.2 using Tapatalk

Pappagallo’s mistake for asking a silly rhetorical question.

Even Greta wouldn’t be seen dead in a Camira.


On iPhone using recycled electrons, via BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Ford Fairlane]

First person jailed for breaking quarantine. Caught a train to visit his girlfriend.

A Perth man who admitted to failing to comply with a self-isolation directive issued under the Emergency Management Act has become the first person sent to prison in Australia for the offence.
Jonathan David, 35, was convicted in the Perth Magistrates Court for twice sneaking out of hotel quarantine to visit his girlfriend and get food on April 4 and 5.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/wes...reaking-hotel-quarantine-20200415-p54jzq.html

 

[Arsene Wenger]

SA 0 new cases reported today, down to one case in ICU.

Good result. I dont know how many tested etc, but surely we are heading in a the right direction

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Good result. I dont know how many tested etc, but surely we are heading in a the right direction

961 tested which is the most people tested here in the past week.

 

[raptalia]

Couple of points...

The Federal Government is about to introduce a smart phone app that will allow them to track COVID-19 positives and the people they contact.
Not sure how it will work but it has been used with success in South Korea and Singapore.
Apparently it will need a 45% uptake to be effective.
National cabinet expected to give go ahead at it's meeting on Thursday.

South Australia is to ramp up testing between now and April 30th.
Anyone with slightest symptoms can now be tested.
Testing has previously been reserved for people coming from overseas.
This could lead to a spike in positives.

 

[NEGAN]

The Federal Government is about to introduce a smart phone app that will allow them to track COVID-19 positives and the people they contact.

Holy shit,.....

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

New York’s death toll skyrockets

Most New York children “probably” already have coronavirus and are serving as vectors to spread the disease, a New York paediatrician says.

www.news.com.au

"The revised death toll in New York City comes as the city’s health department added 3778 more deaths, officially listing them as probable causes.

Many of those people died in nursing homes and private homes and were not tested but are deemed to have had the virus"

^ wtf does this even mean.....

Do they have it or don't they?

When is that supposed to happen? I have been watching the official NY State site for days and it says the NY State's death total is 10,834 and if you add up the 5 boroughs figure it is 1,545 Bronx + 2,308 Kings (Brooklyn) + 1,433 Manhattan + 2,042 Queens + 362 Richmond (Staten Island) = 7,690.

Overnight was another shitty day for NY state 7,177 positives from 20,786 tests ie 35% positive . Better than the 45-50% daily positive figure when I started watching this a week or so ago. It's one stat I bet it doesn't want to be centre of the world in.

COVID-19 Testing Tracker

Statewide tests and positive cases

covid19tracker.health.ny.gov

From the news.com.au article
New York City has added 4000 deaths to its toll, pushing the total past 10,000.
.......
The new deaths push the city’s overall toll past 10,000 and New York State’s total to about 15,000.

 

[Capital Power]

Couple of points...

The Federal Government is about to introduce a smart phone app that will allow them to track COVID-19 positives and the people they contact.
Not sure how it will work but it has been used with success in South Korea and Singapore.
Apparently it will need a 45% uptake to be effective.
National cabinet expected to give go ahead at it's meeting on Thursday.

South Australia is to ramp up testing between now and April 30th.
Anyone with slightest symptoms can now be tested.
Testing has previously been reserved for people coming from overseas.
This could lead to a spike in positives.

Perhaps a phone guru could chime in here, but couldn't they do that anyway through the IMEI or similar? The phone companies have that information, and they know where you are because your phone continually makes contact with the nearest tower. All they'd need is legislation that allows that information to be shared with appropriate government agencies - the same kind of legislation that allows, for example, ATO and Centrelink to share data and the ATO to prefill income information in your tax return.

I suppose it would be far preferable to have an opt-in system so that people didn't feel they were being controlled. Personally, I can deal with that in times of national crisis, but I understand there is already a great deal of bleating about a "police state" and the government would be keen not to add to that.

 

[Lagooner]

Because hypocrisy shits me. Because the generation that are supposedly starting a cultural change aren't putting their skin in the game.

Me infrequently driving a car that will likely be outdated junk before our lives are over maybe isn't helping, but me not going overseas is kinda doing a bit more than the people that want to make a difference more than I. Only having three phones in the last dozen years. One computer since 2011. New clothes only when I need. No pointless home renovations. In general not buying in to a consumerist culture that encourages wastage. We make it we bin it we make it again slightly differently.





Tell me, how has that worked out?

Currently there’s no viable alternative to fuel-burning air travel if you need/want to travel long distances. So unless you’re suggesting that people should never ever fly anywhere, essentially grounding airlines and destroying the global tourism industry forever, then I’m not sure what you’re expecting people to do.

There is an alternative to 8-cylinder personal transport however.

 

[Power Raid]

Not much we can do until we have a vaccine (usually takes a year plus to do all the testing). Shutting down 80-90% of the country for months just to minimise the spread isn’t going to happen.

I think we will keep going with half-arsed restrictions for a while, fast-track a vaccine for those most at risk, gamble that there are no long term side effects, and the rest of us will just back to normal life. Probably 12-18 months till the virus completely disappears.

Those most at risk are ones with compromised immune systems, so vaccines won’t work for them.

So rushing a vaccine puts the young and healthy at risk, to save those on their last legs.

I agree it will be 12-18 months, if ever, before a vaccine arrives but all corona viruses in the past have mutated and become less dangerous within that time frame.

So we’ll have a vaccine putting our fit and healthy at risk for a virus that no longer exists, as it once did.

 

[Magus]

Currently there’s no viable alternative to fuel-burning air travel if you need/want to travel long distances. So unless you’re suggesting that people should never ever fly anywhere, essentially grounding airlines and destroying the global tourism industry forever, then I’m not sure what you’re expecting people to do.

There is an alternative to 8-cylinder personal transport however.

View attachment 858324

Good luck even finding one of those things. They should all be on the scrap heap by now. One of the worst cars ever made.

 

[Lagooner]

Good luck even finding one of those things. They should all be on the scrap heap by now. One of the worst cars ever made.

I’ll allow a Gemini as a substitute.

 

[OneGreatClub]

So Diamond Princess is being treated as its own country.
I guess Japan doesn’t want to add to their stats.
Wonder if they will do same with Ruby Princess.

 

[raptalia]

So Diamond Princess is being treated as its own country.
I guess Japan doesn’t want to add to their stats.
Wonder if they will do same with Ruby Princess.

Between them the Diamond Princess and Ruby Princess have over 1400 positive tests and 31 deaths that is more than many small countries.