Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[faible]

Its the same resourcing pool in that its police assistance. Its whats we are discussing about S.A

Stop digging and admit I am right

W.A or S.A?

Hard to 'admit you're right' when you've provided no evidence to support your claims.

If they're using the same resources that should be following up DV support to chase QR check-in compliance then that's a problem, and shouldn't be happening.

You're making things up that I've said, like usual.

 

[faible]

I'll just sit out the runny nose at home.

Let's be honest here.

You won't.

 

[No SPIN]

Sorry I mean industry wide. Go through Johnson & Johnsons history please as a example. Very common for them to know there product causes death but continue on anyway. How they are still a company is a crime against humanity.

More BS - why would a Company want to kill its customers?
You are completely unhinged on this issue.

 

[burge13]

Anyone still dumb enough to be scared of covid after all the data available to them has the mind of a 5-year-old

"LoOk At IndIa. LoOk At BrAzIl"

By that logic, we should be scared of bombs and rockets because that's happening in the Gaza strip.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

W.A or S.A?

Hard to 'admit you're right' when you've provided no evidence to support your claims.

If they're using the same resources that should be following up DV support to chase QR check-in compliance then that's a problem, and shouldn't be happening.

You're making things up that I've said, like usual.

S.A is following the same laws W.A put in. We have been doing the QR checks for months now.

The rest is just cringe really. It’s sad you are willing to slander domestic violence resourcing to keep your facade up

 

[faible]

It’s sad you are willing to slander domestic violence resourcing to keep your facade up

If they're using the same resources that should be following up DV support to chase QR check-in compliance then that's a problem, and shouldn't be happening.

So...

You're making things up that I've said, like usual.

 

[No SPIN]

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Just BS - i guarantee you would get a Cholera, Yellow fever, Typhiod shots etc to go on holidays to high risk destination.
So why are you putting up this rubbish.

 

[faible]

Just BS - i guarantee you would get a Cholera, Yellow fever, Typhiod shots etc to go on holidays to high risk destination.
So why are you putting up this rubbish.

Joey only communicates exclusively in internet memes. You can't expect him to actual provide a thought of his own let alone a response to a question.

 

[No SPIN]

Not true. In countries like Scheylles, Gibraltar and others they only had deaths and major hospitalisations after after introducing the vaccine, and of course India with it's massive spike after.

All major published research like Dr Peter McCulloch's (interviewed in the recent clip by Tucker) and others around the world for treating COVID infections, unequivocally shows early intervention with IVM, HCQ, Zn and other therapeutics drastically reduces hospitalisations and deaths

not true - the Scheylles COVID cases could have increased due to more testing and the onset of the Flu season - therefore nothing to do with the start of the Jab.
You've tried this tenous argument before for Portugal and other Countries so please desist

 

[No SPIN]

Joey only communicates exclusively in internet memes. You can't expect him to actual provide a thought of his own let alone a response to a question.

then i should have directed it to those who liked the post - my bad.

 

[M Malice]

More BS - why would a Company want to kill its customers?
You are completely unhinged on this issue.

https://www.trtworld.com/life/7-times-the-medical-establishment-got-it-wrong-167992

https://www.medicalerroraustralia.com/medical-disasters/10-worst-drug-recalls-in-history/

Promotion of smoking by doctors-

In the US, doctors and Big Tobacco were complicit in promoting cigarettes from the 1930s to the 1950s.

Tobacco companies paid physicians, throat doctors in particular, to recommend smoking as a remedy for throat irritation and to perpetuate the notion that smoking was healthy.

The thalidomide catastrophe-

At least 80,000 babies died before birth and 20,000 were born without limbs due to thalidomide. The consumption of thalidomide by pregnant women resulted in a wide range of birth defects including severe deformity of the limbs or in extreme cases, the absence of limbs.

Reports suggest the companies which distributed and produced the drug in various countries were aware of the side effects that maimed thousands of babies in the womb worldwide, but ignored them for the sake of profit.

The Vioxx scandal-

Vioxx was a painkiller approved for use by the FDA in 1999; it led to the death of 60,000 people in the US.

The Archives of Internal Medicine reveals American pharmaceutical company Merck concealed data for years that proved Vioxx caused an alarming increase in the risk of heart attacks and strokes. Merck's revenue from Vioxx was 2.5 billion dollars.

In 2004 the drug was removed from the market.


War on dietary fat-

In a recent about-face on fat, the US dietary guidelines advisory committee has removed its previous recommendations against fat and cholesterol consumption in its most recent report.

The medical establishment had for decades advised against the consumption of fat and cholesterol, which in turn led to a higher consumption of carbohydrates and sugars. Studies show this change in dietary habits had a strong correlation to soaring rates of diabetes, obesity and heart disease.
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Yes it's unintended, but many times the medical/Pharma industry has been way to slow to react, cover up is usually what happens to avoid the bad publicity and ensuing share price drop.

I didn't have the time to paste more from the 2 links I provided but have a look through the 10 worst drug recalls in history.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

So...

Yeah a one liner. Thats real care there mate. Rest has just been you talking it down because Covid is too important etc

They are using the same resourcing? Police assistance is a department in its entirety. Domestic violence support comes from that dept. Thats not really up for debate as its flat out common sense. Im not saying anything that I wouldnt expect you to already know?

 

[No SPIN]

https://www.trtworld.com/life/7-times-the-medical-establishment-got-it-wrong-167992

https://www.medicalerroraustralia.com/medical-disasters/10-worst-drug-recalls-in-history/

Promotion of smoking by doctors-

In the US, doctors and Big Tobacco were complicit in promoting cigarettes from the 1930s to the 1950s.

Tobacco companies paid physicians, throat doctors in particular, to recommend smoking as a remedy for throat irritation and to perpetuate the notion that smoking was healthy.

The thalidomide catastrophe-

At least 80,000 babies died before birth and 20,000 were born without limbs due to thalidomide. The consumption of thalidomide by pregnant women resulted in a wide range of birth defects including severe deformity of the limbs or in extreme cases, the absence of limbs.

Reports suggest the companies which distributed and produced the drug in various countries were aware of the side effects that maimed thousands of babies in the womb worldwide, but ignored them for the sake of profit.

The Vioxx scandal-

Vioxx was a painkiller approved for use by the FDA in 1999; it led to the death of 60,000 people in the US.

The Archives of Internal Medicine reveals American pharmaceutical company Merck concealed data for years that proved Vioxx caused an alarming increase in the risk of heart attacks and strokes. Merck's revenue from Vioxx was 2.5 billion dollars.

In 2004 the drug was removed from the market.


War on dietary fat-

In a recent about-face on fat, the US dietary guidelines advisory committee has removed its previous recommendations against fat and cholesterol consumption in its most recent report.

The medical establishment had for decades advised against the consumption of fat and cholesterol, which in turn led to a higher consumption of carbohydrates and sugars. Studies show this change in dietary habits had a strong correlation to soaring rates of diabetes, obesity and heart disease.
________________________________________________________________________________

Yes it's unintended, but many times the medical/Pharma industry has been way to slow to react, cover up is usually what happens to avoid the bad publicity and ensuing share price drop.

I didn't have the time to paste more from the 2 links I provided but have a look through the 10 worst drug recalls in history.

meaningless - I want examples of systematic and multiple examples of a single pharma Companies ( the thread was referring to J&J not tobacco companies) continually flaunting the law and selling multiple drugs that they knew kill people.
GoEagleGoSGIO is targeting his comments at Big Pharma and suggesting this behaviour is systematic and entrenched within the industry - hence my request to him for the specific examples.

 

[faible]

Yeah a one liner. Thats real care there mate. Rest has just been you talking it down because Covid is too important etc

They are using the same resourcing? Police assistance is a department in its entirety. Domestic violence support comes from that dept. Thats not really up for debate as its flat out common sense. Im not saying anything that I wouldnt expect you to already know?

Yes, I literally stated my position on the topic in one line. Well done.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

you, your parents, your family and freinds having been taking products made by these companies for years - and they're still here.
Stop insulting our intelligence with this BS.

No my parents are no longer here and I believe my mother's life was definitely shortened by overuse of pharmaceuticals. Myself, members of my family are sicker than they should be; autoimmune diseases, autism, diabetes being some of the conditions suffered. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that Big Pharma has contributed to this or at least the continuation of it.

 

[M Malice]

meaningless - I want examples of systematic and multiple examples of a single pharma Companies ( the thread was referring to J&J not tobacco companies) continually flaunting the law and selling multiple drugs that they knew kill people.
GoEagleGoSGIO is targeting his comments at Big Pharma and suggesting this behaviour is systematic and entrenched within the industry - hence my request to him for the specific examples.

You didn't have a look at the drug recalls and the countless misery that they caused?

You don't count thalidomide and Vioxx.

I'd suggest that Big Pharma are not altruistic organizations that have human beings as their number 1 priority that you seem to think they are, their number 1 concern IMO is $$$ and peddling a perception.

 

[Kurve]

No my parents are no longer here and I believe my mother's life was definitely shortened by overuse of pharmaceuticals. Myself, members of my family are sicker than they should be; autoimmune diseases, autism, diabetes being some of the conditions suffered. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that Big Pharma has contributed to this or at least the continuation of it.

Mostly to our benefit though. In 1900 the life expectancy average was under 50yo for both male and female, By 1950 it was 72yo. Today it's over 83yo and in the last couple of years increasing by .18% pa.

 

[M Malice]

No my parents are no longer here and I believe my mother's life was definitely shortened by overuse of pharmaceuticals. Myself, members of my family are sicker than they should be; autoimmune diseases, autism, diabetes being some of the conditions suffered. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that Big Pharma has contributed to this or at least the continuation of it.

They are not interested in the least in preventative measures and cures, ongoing treatment via pharmaceuticals(not quick deaths) is what they are after.

They want you on Statins, blood pressure etc medication for life, which I was on for a long while, now off them and everything is fine, with no help/support from the medical establishment.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

Mostly to our benefit though. In 1900 the life expectancy average was under 50yo for both male and female, By 1950 it was 72yo. Today it's over 83yo and in the last couple of years increasing by .18% pa.

Despite pharmaceuticals or because of them? I'd argue there are many other factors that have contributed to increase in lifespan than pharmaceuticals; better sanitation, less poverty, less dangerous occupations, better water quality and food and so on. I think some pharmaceuticals have been wonderful, antibiotics for instance, but there are many others that really do nothing and make your health worse in other ways.

 

[burge13]

Mostly to our benefit though. In 1900 the life expectancy average was under 50yo for both male and female, By 1950 it was 72yo. Today it's over 83yo and in the last couple of years increasing by .18% pa.

Jeez, with the average age of covid deaths being about 85, those 83 year olds must be worried they're near the end!

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Mostly to our benefit though. In 1900 the life expectancy average was under 50yo for both male and female, By 1950 it was 72yo. Today it's over 83yo and in the last couple of years increasing by .18% pa.

Not my benefit. Pumped me full of drugs, contributed nothing to getting better. Had a transplant and was fixed. All the pharma drugs did was leave me with horrible side effects which I have 20 years later,

 

[No SPIN]

You didn't have a look at the drug recalls and the countless misery that they caused?

You don't count thalidomide and Vioxx.

I'd suggest that Big Pharma are not altruistic organizations that have human beings as their number 1 priority that you seem to think they are, their number 1 concern IMO is $$$ and peddling a perception.

I guarantee most people here work for a organisations that are not altruistic and motivated by profit - so lets dispense with the hypocrisy.

Why do you need to persist with an absurd narrative - Big Pharma has contributed vastly to the understanding and treatment of disease, resulting in the control of Cardiovascular and Diabetes to name just 2, that has extended the lives of million.

The fashionable derision of the industry is both childish and naive.

 

[M Malice]

Despite pharmaceuticals or because of them? I'd argue there are many other factors that have contributed to increase in lifespan than pharmaceuticals; better sanitation, less poverty, less dangerous occupations, better water quality and food and so on. I think some pharmaceuticals have been wonderful, antibiotics for instance, but there are many others that really do nothing and make your health worse in other ways.

Couldn't agree more with the bolded, although on better food... a lot of people in western societies go for the garbage food options.

The thing the medical industry do extremely well is emergency care eg. physical trauma from car accidents etc, stabbings, gunshot wounds, emergency appendectomies.... etc etc..

 

[No SPIN]

They are not interested in the least in preventative measures and cures, ongoing treatment via pharmaceuticals(not quick deaths) is what they are after.

They want you on Statins, blood pressure etc medication for life, which I was on for a long while, now off them and everything is fine, with no help/support from the medical establishment.

the industry would be much smaller, if people were motivated to exercise and eat well.
But people have free will and do as they please - its not Big Pharmas fault that you had greasy chips and a coke for lunch.

 

[Kurve]

They are not interested in the least in preventative measures and cures, ongoing treatment via pharmaceuticals(not quick deaths) is what they are after.

They want you on Statins, blood pressure etc medication for life, which I was on for a long while, now off them and everything is fine, with no help/support from the medical establishment.

Same here, I had to take myself off all the junk the doctors had me on after an accident and take control myself with over the counter. Physically, improvement was almost immediate, mentally the fog started to clear fast enough.

A few weeks later I told my doctor what I'd done, he looked a bit nervous and asked how I'd done it. I sacked him and see someone else now, I think they might be getting kickbacks of some sort.