Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns
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Those greasy chips and coke you had for lunch were not forced fed to you by a Big Pharma rep -you made a choice.
News Flash my foolish and ignorant friend, you will need Big Pharma one day because, I’m betting you will chose life over death.
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Of course not, but we are talking about it as a massive medical breakthrough when in reality its really not. Its just letting unhealthy people continue to live a unhealthy lifestyles in a very large majority of cases.
I do think its one of the few breakthroughs in medicine that has helped, im just not going to give it this insane amount of credit that others want too. I tend to feel those its helped in those small cases where it isnt self inflicted has been overshadowed by those who abuse the existence of that medical breakthrough to continue living a unhealthy lifestyle
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Make sure you never take prescribed poiso... I mean medication, won’t you. Even the over-the-counter stuff is designed to get you hooked and eventually kill you.... Our longer lives are just money pits for BP....
and just in case
Btw, I have high blood pressure, caused by genetics not a crappy lifestyle, and am happy to keep it under control with medication- WHICH WASNT AVAILABLE TO MY DEAR FATHER WHO DIED BEFORE HE WAS 50 of heart disease.
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Read my following posts.
Big Pharma has indeed contributed positively to my family in ways that you have no comprehension of so you are entirely wrong on that point.
By all means contribute to the argument but misrepresentation and bullying will have no effect on me or many others you seek to shame. Most people in this thread are interested in reasonable, balanced and intelligent arguments not sweeping statements, misrepresentations and personal insults. What you accuse me and others of you are doing yourself.
It is not vacuous misinformation to point out instances where Big Pharma have produced damaging drugs or voice a concern that a rushed untested vaccine for a virus that has a 99% recovery rate might not be a good thing to have.
What's happening in France right now? Are people happily getting vaccinated? What's the case count at for the time being? Are people mostly moving about freely, no masks etc? Is there widespread opposition against restrictions and lockdown or not?
WA don't have plain clothes officers checking people's phones yet
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They are checking businesses not people thenselves
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Princess Michael of Kent, one of the Royals had the AZ jab. Most would choose Pfizer I think so with the money and clout that family has, that she had AZ is a bit unexpected.
She also contracted the virus six months ago, then went on to have not just one AZ but followed through with a second. Now she has blood clots. I don't understand why people who obviously already have antibodies and possible T cell protection, would only a few months later need the jab.
Maybe the vaccine will become a yearly shot and as Hawkie suggested, go in with our regular seasonal flu jab.
ROYAL SUFFERS BLOOD CLOTS AFTER VACCINE
Princess Michael of Kent developed blood clots after having two COVID vaccine jabs, although no link has been established.
The royal, 76, has been recovering at home from serious ill-effects for almost a month. She is married to the Queen’s cousin Prince Michael of Kent, 78.
She also contracted the virus six months ago, then went on to have not just one AZ but followed through with a second. Now she has blood clots. I don't understand why people who obviously already have antibodies and possible T cell protection, would only a few months later need the jab.
Maybe the vaccine will become a yearly shot and as Hawkie suggested, go in with our regular seasonal flu jab.
ROYAL SUFFERS BLOOD CLOTS AFTER VACCINE
Princess Michael of Kent developed blood clots after having two COVID vaccine jabs, although no link has been established.
The royal, 76, has been recovering at home from serious ill-effects for almost a month. She is married to the Queen’s cousin Prince Michael of Kent, 78.
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Princess Michael of Kent, one of the Royals had the AZ jab. Most would choose Pfizer I think so with the money and clout that family has, that she had AZ is a bit unexpected.
She also contracted the virus six months ago, then went on to have not just one AZ but followed through with a second. Now she has blood clots. I don't understand why people who obviously already have antibodies and possible T cell protection, would only a few months later need the jab.
Maybe the vaccine will become a yearly shot and as Hawkie suggested, go in with our regular seasonal flu jab.
ROYAL SUFFERS BLOOD CLOTS AFTER VACCINE
Princess Michael of Kent developed blood clots after having two COVID vaccine jabs, although no link has been established.
The royal, 76, has been recovering at home from serious ill-effects for almost a month. She is married to the Queen’s cousin Prince Michael of Kent, 78.
That was the thing that surprised me the most, why have the vaccine when she has already had Covid? Assuming the story is true of course. Can we trust anything the MSM tells us? I remain skeptical of most of the information we are fed by the media regarding Covid.
Australia’s COVID Restrictions: Doing the Same Things that Failed Over 100 Years Ago
May 16, 2021 Anthony Colpo
Australia, which has proudly become the new North Korea by indefinitely banning its citizens from leaving, has to date recorded 910 deaths in people with COVID-19. The overwhelming majority of these deaths occurred in elderly people with multiple comorbidities. The Federal Health Department’s website admits the median age of those dying with COVID-19 in Australia is 86 years.
United Nations Population Division data puts the estimated Australian life expectancy at 83.94 years, while OECD data cites a life expectancy of 82.8 years. That means those dying with COVID-19 in Australia lived, on average, over 2-3 years longer than the country's estimated life expectancy.
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In South Australia, the penalty for not letting Big Brother know you just entered a shop is $1,060. To place this in perspective, in 2018 a jazz musician by the name of Matthew Allen Harkins r*ped a fellow student at Mt Gambier, in the state's south east. Despite pleading guilty, on 5 August 2020 Harkins was allowed to walk out of court without serving a single day in jail. He did not even receive a criminal conviction or suspended sentence. His only penalty was a two-year, $5,000 good behaviour bond, which was a complete joke. Harkins was returning to his home in the U.S., where the South Australian good behaviour bond carries no legal weight whatsoever (the travel ban doesn't apply to expat rapists). The chances that he will ever need to cough up the $5,000 bond ....
Yep, welcome to Australia (a.k.a Ausfailure, Asstrailer, Auscatraz), where failing to scan a useless "CovidSafe" QR code every time you enter a business is considered a bigger crime than rape. No wonder this sick joke of a country is riddled with rapists and pedophiles.
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It's enough to make you want to leave Australia far behind....Except that you can't. You see, in order to stop a virus with a 99.85% survival rate, the fake country of Australia has been transformed back into a prison island..... The country's degenerate leader, Kim Jong Morrison, has effectively installed an indefinite travel ban. Fellow inmates of HM Prison Australia, I hope you are enjoying week 59 of "two weeks to flatten the curve." All this to eradicate a largely harmless and asymptomatic virus, even though the Australian Biosecurity Act 2015 explicitly states Australia is not to aim for zero biosecurity risk, but a very low level of risk (which, in terms of COVID, Australia already has):
The Spanish Flu: Lockdowns & Masks Didn't Work Back Then, Either
Unlike the absurdly overblown COVID-19, the Spanish Flu outbreak of 1918 was a genuinely deadly influenza. The first case arrived in Australia in October 1918, and by early 1919 it gained a foothold in the country. During 1919, over 12,000 Australians died. Around half those deaths occurred in New South Wales. Soon after the outbreak, on 28 January, the NSW Government took its first steps in attempting to contain the spread of the disease, beginning with the closure of all “libraries, schools, churches, theatres, public halls, and places of indoor resort for public entertainment.”
This was followed on 30 January by a trifecta of proclamations: People were required to wear masks covering the mouth and nose; the congregation of people in public spaces was disallowed; and restrictions were placed on crossing from Victoria into NSW. More restrictions were added in February 1919, including the the closure of racecourses and hotels (so typical of Australia: Shut down libraries, schools and churches first, then close pubs and horse racing later).
Public meetings were banned. Medical practitioners were given powers to restrict the movement of individuals, especially those who had come into contact with infected patients. Fines of £20 or more were applied to those in breach of the new restrictions. The strategy did not succeed...... ..................
anthonycolpo.com
May 16, 2021 Anthony Colpo
Australia, which has proudly become the new North Korea by indefinitely banning its citizens from leaving, has to date recorded 910 deaths in people with COVID-19. The overwhelming majority of these deaths occurred in elderly people with multiple comorbidities. The Federal Health Department’s website admits the median age of those dying with COVID-19 in Australia is 86 years.
United Nations Population Division data puts the estimated Australian life expectancy at 83.94 years, while OECD data cites a life expectancy of 82.8 years. That means those dying with COVID-19 in Australia lived, on average, over 2-3 years longer than the country's estimated life expectancy.
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In South Australia, the penalty for not letting Big Brother know you just entered a shop is $1,060. To place this in perspective, in 2018 a jazz musician by the name of Matthew Allen Harkins r*ped a fellow student at Mt Gambier, in the state's south east. Despite pleading guilty, on 5 August 2020 Harkins was allowed to walk out of court without serving a single day in jail. He did not even receive a criminal conviction or suspended sentence. His only penalty was a two-year, $5,000 good behaviour bond, which was a complete joke. Harkins was returning to his home in the U.S., where the South Australian good behaviour bond carries no legal weight whatsoever (the travel ban doesn't apply to expat rapists). The chances that he will ever need to cough up the $5,000 bond ....
Yep, welcome to Australia (a.k.a Ausfailure, Asstrailer, Auscatraz), where failing to scan a useless "CovidSafe" QR code every time you enter a business is considered a bigger crime than rape. No wonder this sick joke of a country is riddled with rapists and pedophiles.
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It's enough to make you want to leave Australia far behind....Except that you can't. You see, in order to stop a virus with a 99.85% survival rate, the fake country of Australia has been transformed back into a prison island..... The country's degenerate leader, Kim Jong Morrison, has effectively installed an indefinite travel ban. Fellow inmates of HM Prison Australia, I hope you are enjoying week 59 of "two weeks to flatten the curve." All this to eradicate a largely harmless and asymptomatic virus, even though the Australian Biosecurity Act 2015 explicitly states Australia is not to aim for zero biosecurity risk, but a very low level of risk (which, in terms of COVID, Australia already has):
The Spanish Flu: Lockdowns & Masks Didn't Work Back Then, Either
Unlike the absurdly overblown COVID-19, the Spanish Flu outbreak of 1918 was a genuinely deadly influenza. The first case arrived in Australia in October 1918, and by early 1919 it gained a foothold in the country. During 1919, over 12,000 Australians died. Around half those deaths occurred in New South Wales. Soon after the outbreak, on 28 January, the NSW Government took its first steps in attempting to contain the spread of the disease, beginning with the closure of all “libraries, schools, churches, theatres, public halls, and places of indoor resort for public entertainment.”
This was followed on 30 January by a trifecta of proclamations: People were required to wear masks covering the mouth and nose; the congregation of people in public spaces was disallowed; and restrictions were placed on crossing from Victoria into NSW. More restrictions were added in February 1919, including the the closure of racecourses and hotels (so typical of Australia: Shut down libraries, schools and churches first, then close pubs and horse racing later).
Public meetings were banned. Medical practitioners were given powers to restrict the movement of individuals, especially those who had come into contact with infected patients. Fines of £20 or more were applied to those in breach of the new restrictions. The strategy did not succeed...... ..................
Australia’s COVID Restrictions: Doing the Same Things that Failed Over 100 Years Ago
Australia, which has proudly become the new North Korea by indefinitely banning its citizens from leaving, has to date recorded 910 deaths in people with COVID-19. The overwhelming majority of these deaths occurred in elderly people with multiple comorbidities. The Federal Health Department’s...
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People who had the virus doesnt make them immune to it
Depends on severity, time,genetics and variant ,,,,you can get it more than once
In post 8538 you said Big Pharma was contributing to the continuation of some diseases in you family.
How is any reasonable person expected to respond to that hyperbole - it is clearly illogical. A drug for Diabetes is not going to prolong Diabetes, or similarly the other drugs for additional diseases you mentioned.
It’s was just a slight on Big Pharma that was a gross exaggeration- and that’s being kind.
You now have belatedly taken a measured and balanced view acknowledging Big Pharma had made a positive contribution to your family, which I would have had no problem with had you offered it earlier.
But the “contributing to continuation” comment was an exaggeration and misinformation and hence warranted an entirely different response.
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So you did not read my other posts.
your last post criticized me for being to assertive in my responses - I then simply explained that it started as a result of what you said in post 8538.
And yes I have read all your other posts.
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It stated form you post where you made an insensitive, glib and sweeping statement that dismissed peoples concerns about the negative affects of pharmaceuticals (with the addition of the usual insult). I responded with a balanced viewpoint of how pharmaceuticals can have negative affects.
If you had read my further posts you will see I had positive things to say about pharmaceuticals as well.
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'We should be able to eliminate people dying from this': Researchers say they've made COVID breakthrough
Scientists have developed an antiviral therapy that kills off the COVID-19 viral load in infected mice by 99.9 per cent, Australian researchers say.
www.abc.net.au
you will find the language you most object to is usually directed to a select few posters who continually misinform and present demonstrably false narratives which they continually repeat - I treat such posts with the contempt and derision they deserve.
COVID is emotional enough for many in here, and we don’t need charlatans purveying fake news to make matters worse.
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I remember posting in detail on the study Fauci used to say they should double mask. Not only did it not test any double masking, or with particles as small as SARS CoV 2, it tested on plastic manikins and found a fitted vacuum cleaner bag was the most efficient at stopping particles. But they couldn't guarantee whether or how much O2 a person would be able to breath, if they used any of the sample materials.Hmm, interesting
And now after Joey said people could remove their mask outside, if they were vaxx - ed, CDC have come back and said nah, everyone still has to wear masks, vaxx-ed or not!
It's not about the science.
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What absolute rubbish. Experts I've linked to both in Australia, US and UK are vaccine promoter and developers and are not anti vaccine. We're talking about experimental injections never before approved for humans because they badly failed in the animal experiments that weren't repeated or completed for COVID and strangely passed emergency or provisional use authorisation even though are safe and effective therapeutics.
The facts clearly show a correlation between when the injections stated to be given and a sharp increase in deaths from COVID. Some countries never had a COVID deaths before injections were introduced.
No one knows whether mRNA or simian adenovector DNA injections cause permeant changes because animal studies either weren't done or released and medium and long term effects on humans haven't been reported on.
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All of them. You're doing nothing but trolling now!
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FFS. Didn't you follow the recent asbestos in talcum powder court cases, causing mesothelioma and ovarian cancer cases that J&J lost despite fighting it for years and not admitting they have asbestos in their talcum even though it's the only product that causes mesothelioma.
An estimated 2,200 cases of ovarian cancer every year are caused by the frequent use of talc powders. The Missouri Court of Appeals upheld a ruling that Johnson & Johnson's talcum powder-based products caused ovarian cancer. Johnson & Johnson will be paying out $2.1 billion in damages.
The main companies that are producing the COVID injections have a terrible record linked here a few days ago in producing dangerous of deadly products.
You keep confusing "Big Pharma" who are the powerful pharmaceutical companies profiting in multi billions of dollars from the injections, with therapeutic medicines like HCQ and IVM that are so safe and effective both are on the WHO list of essential medicines. Both of these have been used safely for over 50 year and out of patent, so NO pharmaceutical company profits from any sales and they are cheaply available.
There are now many peer reviewed studies on both with very high safety and effectiveness but Big Pharma not profiting from the sale of these medicines is one reason experts say they haven't been recommended. The other, is the experimental injections can not be given emergency or provisional authorisation if safe and effective medicines are availably.
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