Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[Yahru MkElvin]

 

[MrKK]

it’s not the lockdowns that are at issue here, but rather whether the disease is severe enough to warrant same.
We would all have no problem with lockdowns nor would we say they don’t work, if the COVID mortality rate was 10%.

If it was 10% across all age groups then everyone would be shutting themselves indoors anyway. Lockdowns are never required. Individuals are far better placed to manage their own health than blanket measures from central government.

 

[Steele13]

it’s not the lockdowns that are at issue here, but rather whether the disease is severe enough to warrant same.
We would all have no problem with lockdowns nor would we say they don’t work, if the COVID mortality rate was 10%.

No we wouldn't, but if it was 10%, I'd doubt you would be needing to tell people to stay home, they'd be doing it anyway. And in my opinion, no government, let alone a stage government should have the power to detain people in there house and limit who they can see, regardless of severity

 

[faible]

Lockdowns are never required. Individuals are far better placed to manage their own health

And there we have it.

The individual versus the communal.

 

[yebiga]

I mean the claims you're saying they were censoring.

If you want to get angry about Facebook or Twitter censoring what people can post, then get angry about all the morons who posted absolutely made up drivel like Pete Evans that forced Governments to lean on those private platforms to implement censorship.

Don’t call people morons, moron

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Brazil is far more relevant to a discussion of government response to coronavirus than the lack of healh spending in WA over the past decade.

Bet you wouldnt think that if you had to attend a W.A hospital atm

Zero empathy

 

[faible]

Bet you wouldnt think that if you had to attend a W.A hospital atm

Zero empathy

Again you try to bring up something completely unrelated and make personal attacks. When will you learn.

I have literally agreed with that the health resourcing is a problem.

 

[yebiga]

Sounds good in theory. The UK tried it. Didn't work. Sweden tried it. Didn't work. India tried it. Didn't work. Brazil tried it. Didn't work.

Next?

That’s a lot of sweeping statements
Are you a cleaner?

 

[MrKK]

And there we have it.

The individual versus the communal.

A society where the rights of the individual are protected against an overbearing state is healthier for everybody. It is communal benefit.

 

[yebiga]

I love how people come wading in swinging their dicks around with insults, whilst not being able to offer anything with even a semblance of credibility to the discussion.

Almost like an idiot...

Morons

 

[faible]

A society where the rights of the individual are protected against an overbearing state is healthier for everybody. It is communal benefit.

What about where the health of community relies upon actions of the individual?

Can people be trusted to make personal choices that protect or benefit others?

Remember when people could quarantine at home right at the start? Until all those people didn't quarantine at home and instead went out and about not giving a shit about the community? Yeah, I do.

 

[faible]

Don’t call people morons, moron

That’s a lot of sweeping statements
Are you a cleaner?

Morons

Not yet abusive enough tbh. Try harder.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Again you try to bring up something completely unrelated and make personal attacks. When will you learn.

I have literally agreed with that the health resourcing is a problem.

Agree and then discuss how it lacks relevance but im tuning in now

Is this a health issue or a political one? I think you cant see past the political nature of the topic? You are a Labor party member correct so for you this is a political game?

 

[MrKK]

Brazil is far more relevant to a discussion of government response to coronavirus than the lack of healh spending in WA over the past decade.

By every measure Brazil is poorer and less healthy than Australia, so they would always be likely to suffer more from a pandemic plus have a greater economic cost from lockdowns. Their government simply couldn't afford to prop up the economy to the extent that richer countries have, and people are closer to poverty to begin with.

 

[Yahru MkElvin]

 

[No SPIN]

The vast majority who are told to get tested will go and get tested. Do you dispute that?

isn’t that the difference between compulsory and voluntary - yes most people will chose to find out if they’re infected. That is entirely understandable.

 

[No SPIN]

If it was 10% across all age groups then everyone would be shutting themselves indoors anyway. Lockdowns are never required. Individuals are far better placed to manage their own health than blanket measures from central government.

I’ll take Govt measures in a true Pandemic , over individual choice.
Its a BS that freedom choice must always prevail.

 

[M Malice]

Why do you need mass screening of healthy people?

People who are perfectly fine and queue up to get tested are brainwashed , no such thing as asymptomatic super spreaders.

 

[burge13]

We would all have no problem with lockdowns nor would we say they don’t work, if the COVID mortality rate was 10%.

LOL - if my nanna had wheels, she'd be a bicycle

It doesn't have that rate, it isn't close to that rate. What a stupid what if

Imagine it was 95% mortality?!

 

[Bender20]

This thread is full of anti-science morons

I'm 54 and had no vaccines 89 year old mother no vaccines my kids 25 and 21 no vaccines, nieces no vaccines.
Non of us are on medication, so I guess who needs science.

 

[burge13]

600 cases in NYC today and MSG is full for NBA, street parties packed to watch the game in times square and outside MSG

5 cases in Victoria = lockdown

The mentally ill are in charge

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

5k rule, obsolete when you can exploit the travel loophole.

Cop pulls you over, all you need to say is " going to get jabbed officer " Good luck to any officer who would dare fine you for going to get pretend jabbed.

The grubberment gets more dumber by the day.

Probs wouldn't work after hours

 

[faible]

Agree and then discuss how it lacks relevance but im tuning in now

How is WA having insufficient health funding for a decade relevant to how the government manages a pandemic?

If anything, it's more reason to be heavy handed.

Is this a health issue or a political one?

It's both.

I think you cant see past the political nature of the topic?

Says the person who can't separate the Chinese people from the CCP.

You are a Labor party member correct so for you this is a political game?

I don't see how this would be in any way relevant, but no.

By every measure Brazil is poorer and less healthy than Australia, so they would always be likely to suffer more from a pandemic plus have a greater economic cost from lockdowns. Their government simply couldn't afford to prop up the economy to the extent that richer countries have, and people are closer to poverty to begin with.

They also had a President who described it as a "little flu" and had drug cartels trying to enforce curfews to help limit the spread in the favelas....

 

[Bender20]

Wrong, stop bullshitting.


Acting Premier James Merlino said the "circuit-breaker restrictions" were in response to the speed of the virus, which was outrunning contact tracing efforts.
"Our contact tracers are identifying and locking down first ring, second ring, and third ring contacts within 24 hours. That's faster than ever," he said.

"And yet this variant is still moving faster."


you have lost control of the situation in regards to bullshit hotspot locations, all the infections are related so that is not out of control, this lockdown is to allow your inexperienced contact tracers to get a hold of the locations, nothing more nothing less.

But will it get past " the burning ring of fire"

 

[Steele13]

They very clearly do. They're a blunt object but they work.

Well they may or they may not, but something working is not a justification for doing that thing.