Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 2

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To the best of my knowledge, Trump doesn't have the legal power to end a state lock down.

Even if he doesn't have the legal authority, if he starts telling people it's safe to go out and picks public fights with Dem/"RINO" governors, his supporters, cheered on by Fox News, will start to go out anyway and any shutdown order quickly becomes unenforceable.
 
South Korea sees rise in second-time virus diagnoses
South Korea says it's continuing to see a rise in patients who test positive for the coronavirus for a second time after being diagnosed as recovered.


There goes the herd immunity theory ???
 
Even if he doesn't have the legal authority, if he starts telling people it's safe to go out and picks public fights with Dem/"RINO" governors, his supporters, cheered on by Fox News, will start to go out anyway and any shutdown order quickly becomes unenforceable.
Could get ugly to be honest. Would essentially be a Head of State endorsing civil unrest.
 

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To think Australia is still a few weeks away from possibly lifting some restrictions, even when most states are into single-digit daily caseloads...

Even if the % growth has tapered off across America, they're still in the hundreds of daily cases across all but the smallest states. Going to take months before they can safely ease off - and their crazies are starting crack after a few weeks.
Trump said today they will gradually start easing restrictions from the end of this month, insane
 
Even if he doesn't have the legal authority, if he starts telling people it's safe to go out and picks public fights with Dem/"RINO" governors, his supporters, cheered on by Fox News, will start to go out anyway and any shutdown order quickly becomes unenforceable.
Exactly, legally he's impotent when it comes to ending a state lockdown.
 
Trump said today they will gradually start easing restrictions from the end of this month, insane

With Trump pushing hard for a gradual reopening in a couple of weeks it is a near certainty that a second wave will hit. I guess he's going to pick the economy over lives. I challenge any Trump fans to dispute me on that one.

Insanity.

Great minds think alike.

Exactly, legally he's impotent when it comes to ending a state lockdown.

Legally, in theory, the President is quite limited in his powers in the US. He is checked and scrutinised by Congress and SCOTUS and they have the power to override almost everything the President can do. Great.

But in practice his authority and reach is wide ranging - like Canberra, Washington just has to start swinging the money around and the less powerful states fall into line. If Trump was to say start withholding the national stockpile of ventilators from California unless they loosen restrictions do you think it means he's 'impotent'? Because the Congress (via the Senate) and SCOTUS won't be interfering.
 
Soon = 2021
I was sceptical at first but I do think they'll squeeze in a shortened season if our numbers keep going the way they are. No chance of crowds though, I imagine mass gatherings restrictions won't be lifted before the end of this year.
 
I was sceptical at first but I do think they'll squeeze in a shortened season if our numbers keep going the way they are. No chance of crowds though, I imagine mass gatherings restrictions won't be lifted before the end of this year.
If that’s the case it will be boring as, no crowds no AFL. Hopefully local footy will be back so we can play.
 
South Korea sees rise in second-time virus diagnoses
South Korea says it's continuing to see a rise in patients who test positive for the coronavirus for a second time after being diagnosed as recovered.


There goes the herd immunity theory ???

I've heard mention of this before being a limitation of the testing, not being able to differentiate between active or inactive virus or components thereof from memory.
 
I've heard mention of this before being a limitation of the testing, not being able to differentiate between active or inactive virus or components thereof from memory.
She says the patients on average were 13.5 days removed from their release when they tested positive again, although the longest gap was 35 days.

There was talk early on of a Japanese tour guide in Osaka getting it twice
 
Great minds think alike.



Legally, in theory, the President is quite limited in his powers in the US. He is checked and scrutinised by Congress and SCOTUS and they have the power to override almost everything the President can do. Great.

But in practice his authority and reach is wide ranging - like Canberra, Washington just has to start swinging the money around and the less powerful states fall into line. If Trump was to say start withholding the national stockpile of ventilators from California unless they loosen restrictions do you think it means he's 'impotent'? Because the Congress (via the Senate) and SCOTUS won't be interfering.
So the power you were talking about was the power to cause a constitutional shitstorm?
 

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I was sceptical at first but I do think they'll squeeze in a shortened season if our numbers keep going the way they are. No chance of crowds though, I imagine mass gatherings restrictions won't be lifted before the end of this year.

agree no chance of crowds, but footy and nrl will be back end of may, it's a phase in the step back to normality
 
This is a bit sad and frightening for Africa

Modelling says worst scenario would leave Africa with up to 1.2 billion infections
Africa could see 300,000 deaths from the coronavirus even under the best-case scenario, according to a new report that cites modeling by the Imperial College London.
Under the worst-case scenario with no interventions against the virus, Africa could see 3.3 million deaths and 1.2 billion infections, the report by the U.N. Economic Commission for Africa says.
Even with "intense social distancing" under the best-case scenario the continent could see more than 122 million infections, the report says.
 
South Korea sees rise in second-time virus diagnoses
South Korea says it's continuing to see a rise in patients who test positive for the coronavirus for a second time after being diagnosed as recovered.


There goes the herd immunity theory ???
Doesn't mean you can't get immunity. Some people don't develop immunity. Also doesn't mean they can't fight it off better this time.

But early to know exactly
 
Doesn't mean you can't get immunity. Some people don't develop immunity. Also doesn't mean they can't fight it off better this time.

But early to know exactly
An expert on the ABC was saying it could possibly be false negatives resulting in people being cleared who still have the virus. Then they stop the bedrest and the symptoms flare up again.
 
If that’s the case it will be boring as, no crowds no AFL. Hopefully local footy will be back so we can play.

Optus Stadium will play booing noises at appropriate times, such as when an opposition player has a set shot for goal or Matthew Kreuzer touches the ball.

So the power you were talking about was the power to cause a constitutional shitstorm?

Let's be honest, here - whether pro or anti-Trump, the current US President has skirted the line on 'constitutional shitstorms' throughout his term so far.
 
An expert on the ABC was saying it could possibly be false negatives resulting in people being cleared who still have the virus. Then they stop the bedrest and the symptoms flare up again.

Think that was the most likely scenario but because this virus is so new, everyone is doing the best they can with limited data.
 
Optus Stadium will play booing noises at appropriate times, such as when an opposition player has a set shot for goal or Matthew Kreuzer touches the ball.



Let's be honest, here - whether pro or anti-Trump, the current US President has skirted the line on 'constitutional shitstorms' throughout his term so far.
Trump's executive orders are a shitbreeze compared to usurping states' rights.
 
An expert on the ABC was saying it could possibly be false negatives resulting in people being cleared who still have the virus. Then they stop the bedrest and the symptoms flare up again.
Depends how many negative tests they do before release but yeah it's always an option
 
agree no chance of crowds, but footy and nrl will be back end of may, it's a phase in the step back to normality
Footy with no crowds is just a bit shit and may actually cause more people to drift away from the game. They know this, which is why they are considering ridiculous ideas like piped in crowd noises. It might be in their interests to wait until crowds can return in some form.
 
Curious to know why globaly, as in Australia, all statistics are divided into male/female only?

I think its appaling He/She -- Zie, Sie, Ey, Ve, Tey, E Him/Her -- Zim, Sie, Em, Ver, Ter, Em His/Her -- Zir, Hir, Eir, Vis, Tem, Eir His/Hers -- Zis, Hirs, Eirs, Vers, Ters, Eirs Himself/Herself -- Zieself, Hirself, Eirself, Verself, Terself, Emself are excluded from all official statistics.
 
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