Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 2

[Chief]

Australian Coronavirus Stats

Latest COVID-19 stats from Australia.

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

It appears we might be panicking over nothing.

I followed your advice.

But just about the only non-small toilet paper packs left in my local big Sydney Woolworths the other evening,
was a 20% off made in China brand (10 small rolls per pack) I'd never seen before.

Maybe it was made from unwanted or confiscated Australian toilet paper hoarded a few months ago, that got sent to China for recycling.

Are they the ones without the cardboard roll in the middle?

 

[burge13]

It appears we might be panicking over nothing.

Gee, who'd have thought

 

[FRUMPY]

It appears we might be panicking over nothing.

Daniel Andrews didnt get the memo

 

[maryjames]

It appears we might be panicking over nothing.

Numbers are incredible. So low. Overseas is going crazy with the virus. America having record days from the protest etc. South America building by the tens thousand of per day. India climbing.. around 20,000 per day.

We are so lucky in Australia

 

[JackOutback]

I've run out of straws for you to clutch at...

You're trying to draw a long bow between people gathering for protests and thinking it's ok to have large gatherings elsewhere. Throughout the pandemic, my workplace had a hundred people or more in one building, I didn't think that allowed me to have 100 people at home because I understand nuance. If your argument is that we have a lot of stupid people that don't, then we're in agreement.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Numbers are incredible. So low. Overseas is going crazy with the virus. America having record days from the protest etc. South America building by the tens thousand of per day. India climbing.. around 20,000 per day.

We are so lucky in Australia

and the testing rates in most of Latin America and India are very low

 

[Over The Post]

The point is that people in hotel quarantine can refuse to be tested and are! While we foot the bill for their quarantine stay which is supposed to protect us.

According to the outgoing CMO, it's up to the states how they handle it. He suggests compulsory testing before and after quarantine.

I am frankly amazed that they are given a choice.

People in hotel quarantine to be tested at beginning and end of stay

Recent entries into Australia could be kept in hotel quarantine if they do not submit to being tested for COVID-19, Chief Medical Officer Brendan Murphy says, announcing a boost for testing at the border.

www.abc.net.au

 

[PP34]

It appears we might be panicking over nothing.


Are they the ones without the cardboard roll in the middle?

And yet the state government and media have carried on like the world is ending in Victoria and restrictions wound back. What gives?

 

[JackOutback]

And yet the state government and media have carried on like the world is ending in Victoria and restrictions wound back. What gives?

Federal governments and state governments have different agendas. The Federal Government is responsible for the economy; it looks at Australia as a whole and determined we can't keep economies locked down, borders closed etc as it will cost them too much. Just look at how they tried to argue there was never a need for border closures when it has clearly been beneficial to the states. The State Government is responsible for hospitals and health, it doesn't want costly patients on ventilators, and doesn't want to worry about what's happening over the border, other than how it affects them. Different agendas and politics at play.

 

[Gralin]

Federal governments and state governments have different agendas. The Federal Government is responsible for the economy; it looks at Australia as a whole and determined we can't keep economies locked down, borders closed etc as it will cost them too much. Just look at how they tried to argue there was never a need for border closures when it has clearly been beneficial to the states. The State Government is responsible for hospitals and health, it doesn't want costly patients on ventilators, and doesn't want to worry about what's happening over the border, other than how it affects them. Different agendas and politics at play.

Plus it's the state governments neck on the line when it goes bad. Nobody is blaming Scotty for Victoria but plenty are blaming Dan

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Plus it's the state governments neck on the line when it goes bad. Nobody is blaming Scotty for Victoria but plenty are blaming Dan

Both have the same end goal though. To look good and claim credit doing do. They will do anything to win votes.

If they knew that opening everything up would win votes it would be done tomorrow.

 

[MarcMaverick]

On a different note I have thinking about the temperature checks in places like Chemists or shopping centres. A lot of it doesn't account for people personal temp levels. What I mean by that Is for instance my body's optimal temperature could be 35.6/7 degrees but someone else's it could be 36.7degs, meaning these temp checks are not taking into account personal temperature optimisation or differing in thermo-regulation pertaining to skin and core temp.

 

[Gralin]

Both have the same end goal though. To look good and claim credit doing do. They will do anything to win votes.

If they knew that opening everything up would win votes it would be done tomorrow.

Not if they knew opening up would lead to an election destroying second wave.

That's the difference in Vic right now. We've got enough cases that going full steam ahead on opening could end up costing more than slowing down a bit

NSW could end up in that boat very quickly if things go wrong. Most other states look fine but borders opening could be the catalyst for them.

 

[Gralin]

On a different note I have thinking about the temperature checks in places like Chemists or shopping centres. A lot of it doesn't account for people personal temp levels. What I mean by that Is for instance my body's optimal temperature could be 35.6/7 degrees but someone else's it could be 36.7degs, meaning these temp checks are not taking into account personal temperature optimisation or differing in thermo-regulation pertaining to skin and core temp.

If they are looking for a specific number they've got no clue.
It's a range and it changes for everyone throughout the day and can vary day to day

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Not if they knew opening up would lead to an election destroying second wave.

That's the difference in Vic right now. We've got enough cases that going full steam ahead on opening could end up costing more than slowing down a bit

NSW could end up in that boat very quickly if things go wrong. Most other states look fine but borders opening could be the catalyst for them.

They would more than know what strategy to take to ensure an election victory and lets be frank that's all they give a shit about.

No ITU Covid-19 patients in England’s biggest hospital trust, says Birmingham health chief

Coronavirus-infected patients also ‘don’t seem as sick, on average, as they were’ says trust chief executive.

www.expressandstar.com

Over in the UK I found this comment intresting

“So it’s interesting in that we’ve got 40-odd patients with active Covid in the hospital and none of them need intensive care.


“I don’t think we understand or have the insights into what that is about, but it’s interesting how current patients don’t seem as sick, on average, as they were.


“That may be just a coincidence – it’s all very small numbers.”


Turning to the longer-term knock-on effects on “ordinary services”, he said getting back to full capacity would be “extremely difficult”.

Could this thing actually be weakening as it goes along?

 

[Hawk Dork]

They would more than know what strategy to take to ensure an election victory and lets be frank that's all they give a sh*t about.

No ITU Covid-19 patients in England’s biggest hospital trust, says Birmingham health chief

Coronavirus-infected patients also ‘don’t seem as sick, on average, as they were’ says trust chief executive.

www.expressandstar.com

Over in the UK I found this comment intresting

Could this thing actually be weakening as it goes along?

If we are lucky that might be the mutation if we are not the opposite could happen

 

[Les Malone]

If we are lucky that might be the mutation if we are not the opposite could happen

its simply a respiratory virus that comes and goes seasonally

 

[Gralin]

its simply a respiratory virus that comes and goes seasonally

Ah yes #bullshit

 

[Les Malone]

Ah yes #bullshit

not sure what you are arguing

flu like mortality rates

flu type seasonal patterns

now present your argument ?

 

[FRUMPY]

On a different note I have thinking about the temperature checks in places like Chemists or shopping centres. A lot of it doesn't account for people personal temp levels. What I mean by that Is for instance my body's optimal temperature could be 35.6/7 degrees but someone else's it could be 36.7degs, meaning these temp checks are not taking into account personal temperature optimisation or differing in thermo-regulation pertaining to skin and core temp.

I presume it's a high temp like 38 or something ?

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[Hawk Dork]

On a different note I have thinking about the temperature checks in places like Chemists or shopping centres. A lot of it doesn't account for people personal temp levels. What I mean by that Is for instance my body's optimal temperature could be 35.6/7 degrees but someone else's it could be 36.7degs, meaning these temp checks are not taking into account personal temperature optimisation or differing in thermo-regulation pertaining to skin and core temp.

If the scanner’s reading result is within the normal range of body temperature(equal to or less than 37.3°C) then it is considered safe to allow access to the location.
If a person’s temperature is equal to or in excess of 37.4°C, the designated screener mustfollow the procedure to manage a person with symptoms and the person will not be allowed to enter the location to commence work

Re-testing time frames
•Temperature reading equal to or >37.4°C shall be subject to further testing after a period of 1 hour
•Temperature reading after 1 hour equal to or >37.4°C will require a further 24-hour isolation
•Temperature reading equal to or >37.4°C for more than 24 continuous hours will be subject to further testing and the site-specific emergency response shall be enacted, and quarantine actioned for a period of 14 days.

https://minerals.org.au/sites/default/files/200402%20COVID-19%20Temperature%20Screening%20Guidelines.pdf

 

[mrmonkey]

My question with that video would be if covid is seasonal like the flu how come the flu season in Australia peaks in July and covid here peaked in March/April. Shouldn't covid be on the rise now not in march/April when we did go into lockdown?

 

[Hawk Dork]

My question with that video would be if covid is seasonal like the flu how come the flu season in Australia peaks in July and covid here peaked in March/April. Shouldn't covid be on the rise now not in march/April when we did go into lockdown?

The guys a cherry picker

 

[Les Malone]

The guys a cherry picker

weak argument, but i am not surprised

 

[FRUMPY]

My question with that video would be if covid is seasonal like the flu how come the flu season in Australia peaks in July and covid here peaked in March/April. Shouldn't covid be on the rise now not in march/April when we did go into lockdown?

Aren't there more community transmissions now than in March/April? Weren't most back then from international arrivals?

I don't know the answer, just wondering?

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