Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #5: We're in this together!

About Covid vaccines: Opinion on mandates? Your personal situation?

  • I support vaccine mandates for all jobs

    Votes: 24 26.1%

  • I support vaccine mandates for health & aged care jobs

    Votes: 9 9.8%

  • I don't care either way, it's up to each company

    Votes: 4 4.3%

  • Vaccine mandates are immoral and/or unjustifiable

    Votes: 46 50.0%

  • My employer has mandated the vaccine - I got it to keep my job

    Votes: 13 14.1%

  • My employer has mandated the vaccine - I decided to quit my job

    Votes: 8 8.7%

  • My employer has left the decision to get the vaccine optional

    Votes: 8 8.7%

  • I'm not sure where my employer stands on this issue

    Votes: 14 15.2%
  • Total voters
    92

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Werewolf said:
See if you can get Pfizer instead of Moderna. Ask for the needle to be aspirated so it's not injected into your bloodstream.
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It's Moderna mate, 2nd jab has to be same as the 1st Jab.

Tbh I know people that have had issues with Pfizer and Astra also, so I'm not overly concerned which one it is. Just letdown I've succumb to the system to keep a job and praying I'm not one of the people that suffers adverse reactions.
 

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HODGEYROAD said:
It's Moderna mate, 2nd jab has to be same as the 1st Jab.

Tbh I know people that have had issues with Pfizer and Astra also, so I'm not overly concerned which one it is. Just letdown I've succumb to the system to keep a job and praying I'm not one of the people that suffers adverse reactions.
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Oh well. Pfizer is safer than Moderna, has only recorded more adverse effects from being much more widely used.

But I don't see why mixing jabs would be a problem. If they work, they work.
 
HODGEYROAD said:
I've got that sickening feeling again now, 2nd jab this afternoon due to work mandates in order to keep employment. Just feels so ******* wrong and it's depressing.
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It is wrong. The criminals that are doing this to so many people will pay, hopefully sooner rather than later.

Have my fingers crossed all will be well for you. No further booster needed for another six months and by then this should be sorted out (I hope, or I will be homeless!).
 
Werewolf said:
Oh well. Pfizer is safer than Moderna, has only recorded more adverse effects from being much more widely used.

But I don't see why mixing jabs would be a problem. If they work, they work.
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I'm not sure why it's a problem either, but then a lot of this whole situation doesn't make sense to me.
 
HODGEYROAD said:
It's Moderna mate, 2nd jab has to be same as the 1st Jab.

Tbh I know people that have had issues with Pfizer and Astra also, so I'm not overly concerned which one it is. Just letdown I've succumb to the system to keep a job and praying I'm not one of the people that suffers adverse reactions.
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I'm still not right after mine last week. Tried to tell myself I was imagining it, but keep getting sharp pains intermittently in my chest plus intense pain in the shoulder.
 
Steele13 said:
I'm still not right after mine last week. Tried to tell myself I was imagining it, but keep getting sharp pains intermittently in my chest plus intense pain in the shoulder.
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You ain't the first person I've heard of with those exact same symptoms. It's absolutely cooked. I really hope it goes away soon pal.
 
BlueE said:
So every hospital in the world is in on the conspiracy? Geez you're a 🤡
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Have you forgotten what happens in almost every hospital in the world every year in flu season? Except it didn't in 2020 or 2021. Or did it?

2019 in Australia.

There were 313,033 notifications of laboratory-confirmed influenza to the National Notifiable Diseases Surveillance System (NNDSS) in 2019, 3,913 admissions with confirmed influenza to sentinel hospitals in 2019 (1 April to 6 October).

In 2019, 57% of hospital beds available in Influenza Complications Alert Network (FluCAN) sentinel hospitals were occupied by patients with confirmed influenza.

Based on the ratio of beds in sentinel hospitals to the number of hospital beds nationally, there were an estimated 30,000 admissions with confirmed influenza in Australia throughout the 2019 influenza season.

Approximately 6.3% of patients with confirmed influenza at sentinel hospitals were admitted to ICU in 2019, which is within the range of the past 5 years.

The number of deaths reported in notified cases of laboratory-confirmed influenza to the NNDSS in 2019 (n=953) was considerably higher than the 5 year average (403.8), but 19% lower than the number of deaths reported in 2017 (n=1,183).

The ratio of deaths to all notified cases in 2019 (1 death per 328 notifications) was higher than the 5 year historic range (range: 1 death per 451 notifications in 2015 to 1 death per 391 notifications in 2018).

Deaths reported in notified cases to the NNDSS have largely been in older adults. The median age of deaths reported in notified cases was 86 years (range: 1 to 106 years), with 87% of deaths reported in people aged 65 years and older.

Notification rates were highest in children aged under 10 years with a secondary peak in adults aged 80 years or older, mainly attributable to influenza A(H3N2).

Medical comorbidities were common in hospitalized patients aged over 65 years (87.3% had comorbidities) but less common in children aged 15 years or younger (36.5% had comorbidities)

Of hospitalized patients with confirmed influenza, 7.7 % were Indigenous Australians. Of the 461 hospitalisations with influenza in females aged 16-49 years, 1.7% were pregnant.

ICU admissions with confirmed influenza were similar by age group. Of children (0-15 years) admitted with confirmed influenza, 5.2% were admitted to ICU. This is slightly less than the percentage of adults aged between 16 and 64 years (8.4%) and adults aged 65 years and older (5.4%) that were admitted to ICU.

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Since you probably don't follow MSM, you might be surprised that the MSM frequently comment on Influenza when there are increased numbers of hospitalisations etc
 
Bumpswithagrin said:
You can't run a society on 'what ifs'.
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unfortunately this is exact;y how they are running it. “What if our modelling (which is outrageously overblown) occurred? We would lose 1 million a week!!!’
 
Fwoy said:
unfortunately this is exact;y how they are running it. “What if our modelling (which is outrageously overblown) occurred? We would lose 1 million a week!!!’
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As I found out early in my PhD, models have their limitations!
 

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EasternTiger said:
Most of the writers for the atlantic are woke nutjobs. The article reads like it is written by someone not built for survival outside a safe space.

At some stage in their ignorant drivel they will divulge something from their private life that confirms how insane they really are.



And there it is.
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That's actually the bit that makes me wonder if it's satire/parody. Just sounds too cliched.
 
Clawed said:
Agree fully.

It is plecebo to many. They need it, to quell anxiety. Disease begins in the mind. An anxious person, a person in fear, is prone to colds and flu.

However once you take the jab, you have a chemical immune system. You're a drug addict. Its along way back and the health system is not going to help you get clean.
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Wowee 6 month olds getting their hep, tetanus and polio shots are drug addicts, who knew :tearsofjoy:
 
M Malice said:
Won't be able to go the the footy in Qld next season unless fully vaccinated.... by then I assume most people will have needed to have had at least their 1st booster shot ie. 3rd jab.
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Ms Palaszczuk said on December 17 all COVID-19 restrictions would be removed on clubs, cafes, hotels, restaurants, cinemas, theatres, music festivals and stadiums provided all staff and patrons were fully vaccinated.

People attending major sporting events at government-run stadiums must be fully vaccinated and weddings can also return to normal, if all participants and guests are double dosed.
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Some businesses looking like they will refuse to enforce the government directive >

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11...defy-queensland-covid-vaccine-rules/100608384

Queensland coffee entrepreneur Phillip Di Bella says he will not "discriminate" against people based on COVID-19 vaccination status at his cafe, despite a public health order that hospitality businesses can only open to fully vaccinated customers from next month.
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I just cancelled my Eagles membership as I expect every state will have similar rules by the time the season starts. I'm vaccinated, so I could still attend but I want no part of supporting this segregation.
 
Werewolf said:
See if you can get Pfizer instead of Moderna. Ask for the needle to be aspirated so it's not injected into your bloodstream.
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Went and had my first jab this morning because i want to see my sister early next year as i haven't seen her in person for over two years and i need to catch a plane to do so.

All i will say is no effen way did the needle enter my arm, i've had injections in the past and there is no way an injection has happened that damn fast, from me feeling the needle tip to the nurse saying " that's it done " at pretty much the same time. I even checked my arm when i got back to the car and for the life of me couldn't see any visible mark where the needle went in.
 
HODGEYROAD said:
It's Moderna mate, 2nd jab has to be same as the 1st Jab.

Tbh I know people that have had issues with Pfizer and Astra also, so I'm not overly concerned which one it is. Just letdown I've succumb to the system to keep a job and praying I'm not one of the people that suffers adverse reactions.
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Ask for the placebo.
 
Tiger Toffee said:
Went and had my first jab this morning because i want to see my sister early next year as i haven't seen her in person for over two years and i need to catch a plane to do so.

All i will say is no effen way did the needle enter my arm, i've had injections in the past and there is no way an injection has happened that damn fast, from me feeling the needle tip to the nurse saying " that's it done " at pretty much the same time. I even checked my arm when i got back to the car and for the life of me couldn't see any visible mark where the needle went in.
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You know what, you're not the first I heard of this happening too. Did you get a bandaid? One of the people I know who had a similar experience did not even get a bandaid.
 
bourbons said:
Wowee 6 month olds getting their hep, tetanus and polio shots are drug addicts, who knew :tearsofjoy:
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Alot of these parents are the ones who take there child to McDonalds for a Happy Meal with Large Coke and a 15c toy and then say "Why is my obese ridden child getting sick for? He must need more vaccines"

People correlate a vaccine as the answer when its only a part of the solution.
 
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