Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) 2020

[lioninthesand]

This article was just sent to me by a friend that is one of Australia’s leading biochemists that is well worth the read:

Coronavirus in Australia: How to prepare and what to do if you get sick

Last updated: 16/03/2020 Australia is now in the exponential phase of COVID-19 cases (see image below, from here), with cases doubling every ~4 days. This is similar to the doubling rate in Italy in the early days of the epidemic there (see figure at the bottom of this news article).

www.linkedin.com

Lost interest when it said a month or two of food.

Idiots - the food bowl is fine.

 

[MSB ROYS]

For those interested, here is an excellent summary (not too technical) from The Atlantic of the coronavirus's origins and what is happening etc

Why the Coronavirus Has Been So Successful

We’ve known about SARS-CoV-2 for only three months, but scientists can make some educated guesses about where it came from and why it’s behaving in such an extreme way.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[M Malice]

My son suggested to me yesterday afternoon that it might be a good move if I didn't see him his wife and children for a while with what is going on, he is worried about my health more than his families. I told him I'd be fine, we are both thinking about it over the weekend.

I have had a lot to do with my 3 grandchildren, I retired early(2006) to at the time look after my only grandchild when he was under one year old while my son and his wife worked full time, over time that turned into 3 and nigh on 11 years of looking after them during the day, loved it, that ceased a few years ago when the youngest started prep, I still see a lot of them and pick the youngest up form school most days.

I know it is probably for the best but still will be heartbreaking for me to not see them for such an extended period of time. The granddaughter only a couple of days ago on our walk home from school asked me if she could have a sleepover.

 

[weevil]

I just posted this on the Main Board:

"I'm sick of hearing how we (Australia) are tracking "just like Italy"

Some facts:

1) Median age in Italy= 45.4; Australia =37.9 (current)

2)Smoking Rate in Italy (2016) =23.70%; Australia (2017-18) = 13.8% )
(the above were the the most recent stats I could find for both countries)

So the smoking rate in Italy was nearly double (four years ago)than what it was in Australia two to two and a half years ago.

Like any virus, Covid 19 attacks the respiratory system. You don't have to be Einstein to draw an inference here.

3) Health Care expenditure as a percentage of GDP (2016) Italy 8.9% ; Australia (2016) 9.25%

4) Reported Coronavirus cases in Italy on Feb 28 = 822; Deaths = 21 (Death rate of 2.55%)

Reported Coronavirus cases in Australia today = 876 ; Deaths = 7 (Death rate of 0.80%)

We are "tracking" nothing like Italy."

For the majority of time Italy has been doubling every 2 days, Australia doubling every 3 days while Singapore is doubling every 10 days.

It a very complicated situation, every country is different, we do have some demographic advantages. But for all our talk about flattening the curve, our infection continues to climb exponentially. We are still much, much closer to Italy than we are the handful of Asian countries who are actually walking the walk.

 

[Gibbo_88]

I just posted this on the Main Board:

"I'm sick of hearing how we (Australia) are tracking "just like Italy"

Some facts:

1) Median age in Italy= 45.4; Australia =37.9 (current)

2)Smoking Rate in Italy (2016) =23.70%; Australia (2017-18) = 13.8% )
(the above were the the most recent stats I could find for both countries)

So the smoking rate in Italy was nearly double (four years ago)than what it was in Australia two to two and a half years ago.

Like any virus, Covid 19 attacks the respiratory system. You don't have to be Einstein to draw an inference here.

3) Health Care expenditure as a percentage of GDP (2016) Italy 8.9% ; Australia (2016) 9.25%

4) Reported Coronavirus cases in Italy on Feb 28 = 822; Deaths = 21 (Death rate of 2.55%)

Reported Coronavirus cases in Australia today = 876 ; Deaths = 7 (Death rate of 0.80%)

We are "tracking" nothing like Italy."

I haven’t seen anywhere say we are tracking like Italy. Your statistics also make it all seem too simple. If that is our current figures for smoking then that’s great for young people, those numbers don’t tell us the whole story. For example how many people smoked for more then 10 years of their life. Anyone that has smoked has a higher chance of cardiovascular disease. People with cardiovascular disease are at a much higher risk of being hospitalised for this virus than others.

I know the deaths scare people the most but it’s the number of people that need to be in hospital and monitored till they can go home or admitted to icu for ventilation that is really going to be the thing that is going to compromise our health system as it has in so many countries with similar health systems and demographics as us.

 

[briztoon]

My son suggested to me yesterday afternoon that it might be a good move if I didn't see him his wife and children for a while with what is going on, he is worried about my health more than his families. I told him I'd be fine, we are both thinking about it over the weekend.

I have had a lot to do with my 3 grandchildren, I retired early(2006) to at the time look after my only grandchild when he was under one year old while my son and his wife worked full time, over time that turned into 3 and nigh on 11 years of looking after them during the day, loved it, that ceased a few years ago when the youngest started prep, I still see a lot of them and pick the youngest up form school most days.

I know it is probably for the best but still will be heartbreaking for me to not see them for such an extended period of time. The granddaughter only a couple of days ago on our walk home from school asked me if she could have a sleepover.

For the majority of time Italy has been doubling every 2 days, Australia doubling every 3 days while Singapore is doubling every 10 days.

It a very complicated situation, every country is different, we do have some demographic advantages. But for all our talk about flattening the curve, our infection continues to climb exponentially. We are still much, much closer to Italy than we are the handful of Asian countries who are actually walking the walk.


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Also our community transmission hasn’t really started yet. The majority of cases are still people who brought it in from other countries.

We’ve only seen a small sample of what community transmission looks like. For example, that Sydney wedding with 36 cases now linked to it.

 

[Gadzorks]

For the majority of time Italy has been doubling every 2 days, Australia doubling every 3 days while Singapore is doubling every 10 days.

It a very complicated situation, every country is different, we do have some demographic advantages. But for all our talk about flattening the curve, our infection continues to climb exponentially. We are still much, much closer to Italy than we are the handful of Asian countries who are actually walking the walk.


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The cruise ship in Sydney instantly added numbers and assume the people wandered off since they asked the public to contact anyone they knew who was on the boat and get them to ring the health line. One passenger went straight to hospital.

What a debacle - they should have been quarantined like others were.

Who ever allowed them to disembark should be sacked.

 

[Mr Ripper]

Who ever allowed them to disembark should be burnt at the stake.

FTFY

 

[JasRulz63]

I work in a hospital and it's disheartening to front up to work every day and put ourselves in the firing line when it feels like some parts of the government and the general public aren't taking it seriously enough.

 

[weevil]

Also our community transmission hasn’t really started yet. The majority of cases are still people who brought it in from other countries.

I’m totally a broken record with this; but up till now, we have not been testing for community spread.

Watch our numbers explode now we have finally started testing like we should have been from the start.

#HorseHasBolted

 

[Lions Flag 2020]

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I work in a hospital and it's disheartening to front up to work every day and put ourselves in the firing line when it feels like some parts of the government and the general public aren't taking it seriously enough.

I feel for you. Health workers are unsung hero’s in normal times but to front up during this is beyond admirable. I hope there is a Royal Commission on this when all finished so future governments can learn what not to do. First learning is dont worry about being unpopular do what is best for the nation.

 

[luthor]

I’m totally a broken record with this; but up till now, we have not been testing for community spread.

Watch our numbers explode now we have finally started testing like we should have been from the start.

#HorseHasBolted

If the numbers explode as a result of more rigorous resting, then there is probably no stopping this thing.

Would however make the Deaths to cases ratio even lower .....it's 7 out of 1023 currently .....or 0.684%

 

[luthor]

It was a quiet Monday morning on 15 September 2053 when John awoke with a need to go to he bathroom.

But for John, this wasn't just any other ordinary day.

This would be the day he used the last package of toilet paper his mother bought in March 2020.

 

[weevil]

If the numbers explode as a result of more rigorous resting, then there is probably no stopping this thing.

Would however make the Deaths to cases ratio even lower .....it's 7 out of 1023 currently .....or 0.684%

That's true right now, but sadly the deaths are to come.

 

[briztoon]

Riding the escalators up to, and then back down from Woolworths at Carindale today. All I wanted to yell out was, “stop touching the rails, get your hands off the rails”.

 

[JasRulz63]

I feel for you. Health workers are unsung hero’s in normal times but to front up during this is beyond admirable. I hope there is a Royal Commission on this when all finished so future governments can learn what not to do. First learning is dont worry about being unpopular do what is best for the nation.

I'm happy to go in every day and do my job because that's what I can do to help. It's interesting times though, all our annual leave has been cancelled, doctors are being re-assigned to take on roles outside of their usual skill set (I personally work as a radiology trainee but have been told we're likely to be re-assigned based on need), and we don't have adequate PPE to do our job. It's frustrating that we're not doing our best, both from a government level and also as a society, to keep our most at risk safe.

 

[Lions Flag 2020]

I'm happy to go in every day and do my job because that's what I can do to help. It's interesting times though, all our annual leave has been cancelled, doctors are being re-assigned to take on roles outside of their usual skill set (I personally work as a radiology trainee but have been told we're likely to be re-assigned based on need), and we don't have adequate PPE to do our job. It's frustrating that we're not doing our best, both from a government level and also as a society, to keep our most at risk safe.

It’s a joke that there is insufficient PPE. (Unfortunately I realise it’s no laughing matter at all).

 

[luthor]

That's true right now, but sadly the deaths are to come.

Maybe.

But if there are all these people running around oblivious to the infection, why haven't there been scores more sudden deaths?

Or at least way more "serious or critical cases"

Even with 998 currently infected patients in Australia, 996 of them are considered "mild".

Italy has been literally turned into a police state, it's entire population has been more or less confined to barracks. yet the infection rate and the deaths continue to mount at a horrifying rate. Was it March 12 they went into full lockdown?

It seems in Italy, the harder they try to contain the virus, the more rapidly it spreads.

It's baffling that the toll just keeps mounting despite the draconian measures they have brought in.

 

[briztoon]

 

[dlanod]

If Kenny Rogers chooses now to fold them, we must be ****ed.

 

[Gadzorks]

AFL proves a smash-hit in America

Sports fans across the globe are self-isolating in hope of preventing the spread of the coronavirus outbreak, which has inadvertently given the AFL some additional viewers.

www.news.com.au

A silver lining.
But should not influence the decision to play/not play

 

[Gadzorks]

It’s a joke that there is insufficient PPE. (Unfortunately I realise it’s no laughing matter at all).

The Pa icu has the masks under lock and key. Like the opiates.

 

[weevil]

Maybe.

But if there are all these people running around oblivious to the infection, why haven't there been scores more sudden deaths?

Or at least way more "serious or critical cases"

Even with 998 currently infected patients in Australia, 996 of them are considered "mild".

Italy has been literally turned into a police state, it's entire population has been more or less confined to barracks. yet the infection rate and the deaths continue to mount at a horrifying rate. Was it March 12 they went into full lockdown?

It seems in Italy, the harder they try to contain the virus, the more rapidly it spreads.

It's baffling that the toll just keeps mounting despite the draconian measures they have brought in.

On average takes people 15 days to die from the disease, so our current count of deaths is like 1% of the number of people infected two weeks ago...With the number of infected people doubling every three days.

Italy not nearly as good at lockdown as China.

 

[pulpdriver]

On average takes people 15 days to die from the disease, so our current count of deaths is like 1% of the number of people infected two weeks ago...With the number of infected people doubling every three days.

Italy not nearly as good at lockdown as China.

It's hard to do that when you're not a police state with zero regard for your citizens.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chinese authorities are finally opening the sealed apartments. There are countless dead. <a href="https://t.co/eBGxoH60bN">pic.twitter.com/eBGxoH60bN</a></p>&mdash; Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) <a href="">March 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Saucery]

To Slo-Mo, Bo-Jo, Trump and any other world leader who chose to down play this; you are a fk'in disgrace.

"The greatest problem which is emerging in these days, I would say, is that the patients cannot be visited by their relatives and often die on their own."

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/20/europe/italy-military-coronavirus-intl/index.html