Mega Thread Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. Part 2 * CONTINUED ABUSE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED *

[Chief]

Australian Coronavirus Stats

Latest COVID-19 stats from Australia.

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[Roby]

Thats simply not true

Which part?

 

[boncer34]

Pot luck from a super spreader, less density in population (although Melbourne and Sydney are vulnerable) and high levels of humidity and heat perhaps?

I live in SEQ and I absolutely think we should shut the border

This works in clusters (it’s very localised) and there are already 3 live clusters in Sydney

I would argue you've given reasons why we aren't on a similar path to Italy.

 

[Hawkk]

Which part?

You don’t have 1/30 chance of death or serious illness if you are not at-risk (read my post)

There is absolutely nothing to suggest that, that in itself is alarmist and causes self perseveration and panic when we need to protect those at-risk

 

[Heaps of fun]

At least we'll all get to see our teams play one game for premiership points this year. Season will be canned in less than ten days.

 

[Roby]

People realise Northern Italy is also older than the rest of the country? Average age of people in Italy’s north is 49.1, that is 10% higher than the rest of the country that is already the 2nd oldest in the world.

I have seen all the crazy scaremongering videos that everyone has watched, I am yet to see anyone who resembles a middle aged person or younger.

Our authorities now have enough of a case study of cases to predict the type pressure our health system will faced to deal with. Is there any reason to suggest that there will be a complete and total 180 in the type of cases we will see? As it stands, we have 2 in serious conditions, we have more than a 1000 in recovery who do not need specialist care, but unfortunately we have lost 7 elderly people. We are running at a 0.6% fatality. Can anyone show me with legitimacy that the over 1000 who are mild will somehow require treatment and/or progress to serious conditions and die? No hypothesis, no guessing, just legitimate information on why those In mild conditions or future positive Covid19 patients will suddenly start presenting in serious conditions and require ICU admission?

This is a challenge but we won’t see mass deaths, there won’t be thousands of people dying and unless there is a monumental change in the way our cases are presented I still see the overall carry on by some alarmist nuttas here as pathetic.

The impact of what we are going through is going to kill millions of Australians FINANCIALLY, that is what is going to hurt our country.

You're hysterical. Millions of deaths because the ecomomy goes into recession. You're hysterical.

Asking me to be banned when you sprout this fantasy numbers when I basically just reported facts?

Guess who needs a holiday. You. You're hysterical, shouting and complaining in every post. Get a grip.

 

[dont bowl there]

You're hysterical, ease down.

Think about you're saying. You're talking about suicide. I work with suicide prevention so please stop clumping things erroneously.

You have one in a million chance of dying in a car accident when you get in the car. I've also had to see people die in a car accident when I was in one at age 10. If you get Covid-19 you're a one in thirty chance of dying and at best one in a 1000 IF your hospitals are not overrun, you are not obese, have no other comorbodities or infections.

Dude, you raise really valid points a lot of the time but you end a lot of your posts with just rubbish fear statements like "If you get COVID-19 you're a one in thirty chance of dying." Please source me on that and if its true why then clarify the STATEMENT with maybe 1 in 1000. We know its not a 1 in 30 will die virus but we also know a lot will die. No need to make up numbers when the facts are scary enough.

 

[Light_Soda]

Great news today, the mortality rate in Australia has gone from 0.7% to 0.6% - a continued drop since last week.

1,017 with a mild condition - 2 serious/critical (let's hope for these guys)

 

[Roby]

You don’t have 1/30 chance of death or serious illness if you are not at-risk (read my post)

There is absolutely nothing to suggest that, that in itself is alarmist and causes self perseveration and panic when we need to protect those at-risk

304,622 confirmed cases worldwide and 13,000 deaths equates to one in 23. Of course all cases aren't reported, then again not all deaths are reported.

And my response was to someone saying driving a car was just as dangerous.

 

[Roby]

At least we'll all get to see our teams play one game for premiership points this year. Season will be canned in less than ten days.

Right now it looks like Port Adelaide is the 2020 Premier and Collingwood finished second again. Sounds about right, good enough will take that.

 

[theyellowsash]

I love these comments ’the flu kills X thousand of people each year as some sort of justification to carry on as normal’.

In my entire life, having lived in 4 countries I have never met anyone who has said to me, ‘my [mother, father, grandparent, aunty, uncle, friend, etc] died from the flu’

So because you haven't known anyone who has died of the flu, it hasn't happened.

Good news everyone. No-one has told me that their mother, father, grandmother etc has died from coronavirus, so it's all gone and we can all go back to the footy and work.

 

[Light_Soda]

304,622 confirmed cases worldwide and 13,000 deaths equates to one in 23. Of course all cases aren't reported, then again not all deaths are reported.

And my response was to someone saying driving a car was just as dangerous.

Deaths are a lot easier to pin-point and track, as opposed to active cases.

You do realise that the more mild cases are recorded, the less disproportionate the death tally looks in comparison?

Do you have any math knowledge whatsoever?

Your fear-mongering in this thread is in overdrive so much that you've literally lost the ability to comprehend numbers.

 

[Sterge]

You're hysterical, ease down.

Think about you're saying. You're talking about suicide. I work with suicide prevention so please stop clumping things erroneously.

You have one in a million chance of dying in a car accident when you get in the car. I've also had to see people die in a car accident when I was in one at age 10. If you get Covid-19 you're a one in thirty chance of dying and at best one in a 1000 IF your hospitals are not overrun, you are not obese, have no other comorbodities or infections.

My man, you have told people to stockpile 2 months of food, millions will get it and 1 in 30 will die if they are healthy....

And you are calling others hysterical...

Your posting in here is just as bad as the nothing is wrong it's just the flu crowd

 

[Hawkk]

304,622 confirmed cases worldwide and 13,000 deaths equates to one in 23. Of course all cases aren't reported, then again not all deaths are reported.

And my response was to someone saying driving a car was just as dangerous.

Jesus, Roby you are a good poster most of the time but you can’t deduce mortality fr case-mortality.

Even the WHO and pretty much every national medical officer has stated that categorically.

When you have a medical emergency by and large only the moderate to serious cases present.

There is evidence that this is absolutely rampant throughout Italy and Western Europe but only the serious have been tested (except in Germany).

This was also the observation in Wuhan when the WHO officers entered in February (which resulted in a sizeable jump in cases)

I think the truth about this is somewhere between what you are saying and Tige19. Which is what makes the shopping trolley scenario such a difficult one for governments all over the world

 

[Roby]

My man, you have told people to stockpile 2 months of food, millions will get it and 1 in 30 will die if they are healthy....

And you are calling others hysterical...

Your posting in here is just as bad as the nothing is wrong it's just the flu crowd

I don't think the government is doing enough. I thought they would've by now but they haven't. Take care of yourself and your family.

 

[Hawkk]

My man, you have told people to stockpile 2 months of food, millions will get it and 1 in 30 will die if they are healthy....

And you are calling others hysterical...

Your posting in here is just as bad as the nothing is wrong it's just the flu crowd

ahh no I didnt

Quote me where I have said that, unless you are getting me confused with Roby?

 

[Woody15]

Ban on non-essential domestic travel is the final nail in the coffin for this season you would think.

 

[Sylvia Saint]

If lists are trimmed to 35 next year for cost purposes, then no AFL draft this year makes sense.

 

[Sterge]

ahh no I didnt

Quote me where I have said that, unless you are getting me confused with Roby?

Sorry my bad i did mean Roby, quoted the wrong post.

Sorry

 

[Light_Soda]

ahh no I didnt

Quote me where I have said that, unless you are getting me confused with Roby?

Happens all the time, just this morning I got my rubbish bin confused with Roby

 

[tige19]

You're hysterical, ease down.

Think about you're saying. You're talking about suicide. I work with suicide prevention so please stop clumping things erroneously.

You have one in a million chance of dying in a car accident when you get in the car. I've also had to see people die in a car accident when I was in one at age 10. If you get Covid-19 you're a one in thirty chance of dying and at best one in a 1000 IF your hospitals are not overrun, you are not obese, have no other comorbodities or infections.

304,622 confirmed cases worldwide and 13,000 deaths equates to one in 23. Of course all cases aren't reported, then again not all deaths are reported.

And my response was to someone saying driving a car was just as dangerous.

Again picking and choosing your numbers, cherry picking to have some relevance to your pathetically inept agenda. 95% of cases worldwide are MILD, please do share how those mild cases progress to death based on your modelling?

Further to your complete lack of any form reasoning, show all of us how your statistical analysis of world numbers correlate more accurately than the 1070 odd cases we have circulating in our very own health system here in Australia? You are completely full of crap, from go to woe you have been perfectly hysterical and fanatical.

 

[Light_Soda]

1070 odd cases

1019*

 

[Roby]

Jesus, Roby you are a good poster most of the time but you can’t deduce mortality fr case-mortality.

Even the WHO and pretty much every national medical officer has stated that categorically.

When you have a medical emergency by and large only the moderate to serious cases present.

There is evidence that this is absolutely rampant throughout Italy and Western Europe but only the serious have been tested (except in Germany).

This was also the observation in Wuhan when the WHO officers entered in February (which resulted in a sizeable jump in cases)

I think the truth about this is somewhere between what you are saying and Tige19. Which is what makes the shopping trolley scenario such a difficult one for governments all over the world

How deadly is COVID-19? It's not as simple as you think

How does the new coronavirus compare with Ebola, SARS and the plain old winter flu? This chart shows us the answer.

www.abc.net.au

 

[theyellowsash]

Ban on non-essential domestic travel is the final nail in the coffin for this season you would think.

Well the lib gov let theirs mates hold a cruise with thousands and the disembark without any quarantine or testing of the people onboard, so I'm sure the AFL will be able to negotiate something

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Does this mean we won?

 

[theyellowsash]

How deadly is COVID-19? It's not as simple as you think

How does the new coronavirus compare with Ebola, SARS and the plain old winter flu? This chart shows us the answer.

www.abc.net.au

"In the early stages of the outbreak in China, the fatality rate hit 17.3 per cent but has reduced over time to 0.7 per cent."

This is exactly the point everyone is trying to get you to understand. Mortality right at the beginning is not an accurate picture of what the actual rate will be long term.