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Mega Thread Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. Part 2 * CONTINUED ABUSE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED *
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It openly describes itself as "conservative" but it's hardly right wing - it has also openly been a "never Trump" conservative view point and is very well known and highly respected as a mainstream publication, with leading journalists such as David French from the New York Times. So not a "junk website", but I'll excuse your ignorance.
Can you actually point out any factual inaccuracies in the article?
‘the optimism might be Germany is federal like us, and is doing a fair job under the circumstances
I do think we could have a least tried to put more resources compulsory into self isolation. Exactly as we did with the original Wuhan evacuees seven weeks ago
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Yep. Funerals are fundamentally more essential than all the retail shops, trades, and various industries scomo is so determined to keep open..despite often having more than 10 staff..
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Antifa Hooligan
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Recommended not to see family etc.......unless they are in your personal training group?
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Yep, and weddings limited to celebrant, couple getting married and two witnesses - I guess even if it was an outside wedding. Boot camps though all good with up ten participants. That makes a lot of sense?
Still some sense tonight - beauty parlours, tattoo places shut down.
Barbers and hairdressers ok, but must follow the usual rules about distance etc. I can't see my barber doing this. I think long hair will become very popular.
I actually don’t agree with morrison that a part or whole year of schooling could not be caught up on
it could be achieved in many ways, curriculums and exams are self serving, they could easily adjust even yr 12 to uni to happen in June not dec (which is February anyway)
it could be achieved in many ways, curriculums and exams are self serving, they could easily adjust even yr 12 to uni to happen in June not dec (which is February anyway)
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I don't think people will be forgetting about this or the part China played in it, it's the biggest worldwide disaster since the Second World War.
Massive queues at Centrelink seem to be OK too but no queues allowed at the hairdressers or other shops where people have to remain 1.5m apart.
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LukeParkerno1
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To China too...
Colour me shocked I tell you!
Honestly just flat out stop all mail to China unless it is for a medical emergency (which must be accompanied by a doctors certificate). Would stop half this hording rubbish in one hit! Can't wait for Dutton to give it to these people tomorrow, they are treating our citizens with contempt.
LukeParkerno1
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Hardly. People don't help the economy through funerals (except for the coffin makers and what not), they do through businesses. We need to keep all (or as many as we can) industries going. We need people working whether it be at home or at work.
I feel for people that may encounter a loss of a loved one I do, but these times are very unique, and large gatherings are not what is needed.
funerals don’t provide the govt with income tax or other taxes... they are a drain...anything that is a drain is not allowed in the globalists agenda!
It’s all about making sure they have enough money coming In for as long as possible. God knows they will need it with all of these handouts. Your taxes will go up in 24 months to help so don’t worry... If they wanted to stop this virus they would have shut the borders earlier. We are an island and it shouldn’t have been difficult.
but **** being humane just make sure they collect tax! Another few weeks of this and there will be riots in the streets. I mean telling people you can’t bury a friend or a family member? What’s this world come to..If I want to go to a funeral I’ll go so go and get ****ed......but make sure you go to work in the morning though..you’ll be exposed to the virus fifty times during the day.... god knows the rich and the govt (a vehicle for the rich) want their money!
yes there is a virus, yes it’s worse than the flu but if they wanted to stop it... really stop it they’d act quicker and smarter in the western world .... this is all a political stunt to stuff China In the long run and to reset our financial systems and I’ll be proven right in the long run... im almost certain of it.
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Yep well that’s my point. These places are large gatherings of people.
Expert opinion seems to be implement extreme measures quickly. Close non essential industry. Shopping malls etc etc. and you will not only save lives, but be able to return to more normal economic and social conditions sooner.
We are currently slowly implementing a half hearted lockdown.
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LukeParkerno1
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Have no issue with what they are doing. If in a month we need harder measures, lets re-visit it then. The economy still needs to function in these down times otherwise do you want unemployment to go through the roof that would be unsustainable.
I know from my business we are only going in when we have to anyway, a lot of businesses are doing everything remotely.
the economy is not functioning! We have small and medium sized businesses (large ones if you include the pro sports leagues) in the thousands who employ millions of people who have been asked to shut for up to 6 months potentially .... they will go belly up the majority of them....millions are on the unemployment line and they will stay there ... on top of this there are supply chain businesses who support these industries who will go with them. The property industry from this weekend will not function.... another million there....what economy are we protecting exactly??
close everything for 3 weeks except for hospitals and supermarkets and see what happens. This is engineering the Great Depression of the 21st century and to me it seems very calculated because not enough is being done to really stop this in its tracks.
Mark my words this is just starting and people are in shock but we are a liberal society and if you take peoples lives and livelihoods away for 6 months I can guarantee there will be blood on the streets. Virus or no virus when there is no food on the table and no money in the bank accounts of millions by early May people will be very very unhappy... social media is a powerful tool if people want to use it to uprise in the opposite way. this is not going to end well.. the hospitals will be overrun and/or you will see things on the streets of this country you would never have thought imaginable.
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Phew. Mine can still go ahead no problems.
Plenty of fruit left to pick in the GV.Bloody concerning to read that 1 in 10 Aussies have lost their jobs in the past week. If that rate continues, there won't be any jobs left in 10 weeks when the footy is slated to return!
Rising recession anxiety as more Australian households suffer impacts of virus
A survey has found about 10 per cent of Australians have already lost their jobs due to the coronavirus pandemic.www.theage.com.au
there’s going to be inconsistencies. If you get hung up on them,you’ll go mad. I’m saying if you infect someone at yoga, it’ll not be as devastating as if you infected a couple of elderly relatives and they died
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Again, as I keep saying to you, time and time again, I was never against a full lockdown if it is done right. And I emphasis the word, right. This is not a lockdown. It is a half-assed attempt - a "two-mind's" approach which has now put the economy in serious jeopardy - and hysteria played a part in this.
A low-end outcome in terms of deaths was always going to occur - the issue was how quickly you can do pull this earlier (saving time at the expense of the economy being post-poned for a shorter, foreseeable specific amount of time), or later (saving the economy at the expense of time) - but doing a partial lockdown accomplishes nothing on BOTH fronts.
A lockdown is to be done comprehensively.
OUR "lockdown", in the words of the PM, is only effective ... "if" Australians do this, and that. But that is a naive and silly approach to place that much trust in the few at the expense of the general population. The LOSS is FAR greater to trust Australians on an "IF" (in regards to half-assed lockdowns like this) and then proceeding to a full-scale lockdown, than it is to do it the other way around.
2-4 weeks is a lot easier for workplaces to cover for their employees for a more sure-fire result - but the "result" of this half-assed "lockdown" won't come in 3 or 4 weeks - it will be longer without a clear end (possibly 6 months) - so companies and workplaces, in the midst of this unclear end, will be forced to make their employees redundant over time, one after another. If the economy is impacted, and there are less customers with the means to spend, the impact of this will ripple throughout every other industry - so even if we do reach an eventual victory against this virus through the means of this half-assed attempt - it stands the chance of being a PYRRHIC VICTORY.
Try doing a full, comprehensive lockdown for 2-4 weeks after many have lost their jobs for good as opposed to enforcing such a lockdown earlier while these employees are on a temporary pay - the bounce back will be much worse in time.
The fact that they've kept hairdressers open for this indefinite time just so we can all look proper, despite the hypocrisy of it, stands to show that this is all bullshit.
This will be a disaster for us economically and medically, because if you don't do the right procedures (which would otherwise keep it low) and replace them with counter-intuitive ones - then you are basically taking what was originally a false pretence, and causing it to materialise to justify that ridiculous action in the first place.
Easy choice when you don't play. Junior "rebelled"at 16 with this and copped no resistance under the "pick your battles" parent code. Got sick of opposition c**** pulling out hair at senior level with no umpire support (mostly bald). Had dreads lopped and burnt at 22 and never looked back. Be careful what you wish for.
collect tax or allow people to earn money putting less strain on the social services? It’s a fine line between total shut down and allowing people to keep earning through this period. A total shut down now would be catastrophic to the unemployment rate.
The suicide rate post this pandemic will be far greater then the death toll from the pandemic.
Light_Soda
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No it wouldn't. A full scale lockdown for a specific amount of time is a lot easier for businesses to plan for, or calculate their losses for, in the lead up to a more comprehensive result (bounce-back). This would mean lay-off's would lower and businesses would opt to account for temporary pays for contract employees and put these down as a collateral losses - scaling these losses in relation to projected growth margins in the aftermath of an epidemic (or at least in the least severe case of it).
However, now that what we've seen has already happened, this has just made it much WORSE and almost near impossible to see the potential bounce-back we would have seen if things were done sooner, rather than later.
The PM has basically shot us in the foot with his desire to be "different" than the rest.
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