Mega Thread Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. (Thread part 1 - cont in part 2, link in thread)

[Chief]

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Mega Thread - Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. Part 2 * CONTINUED ABUSE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED *

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[Pykie]

Yeah, I'm in fantasy land for knowing they wouldn't give up the golden goose

Whatever, it's irrelevant.

We aren't playing an AFL Grand Final in December.

 

[faible]

The issue with the players is the quarantine period, as we are seeing with the Serie A in Italy, with a reserves player getting it.

The J-League has been shut down in Japan.

As soon as the virus infiltrates AFL lists, the season is f’ed, as teams won't be able to field sides for a fortnight in a best case scenario.

Yep, this is the most likely cause of disruption during the season I'd imagine. If both sides have healthy players then they can just play in an empty stadium.

 

[SunshineBoy]

40 players versus up to 95,000 members of the public in a stadium, plus the various interactions on public transport getting to and from the game.

One of these isn't like the other.

Don’t the 40 players interact with anyone? Shops, cafes, service station attendants? It will grow exponentially no difference

 

[FRUMPY]

Don’t the 40 players interact with anyone? Shops, cafes, service station attendants? It will grow exponentially no difference

Nope, just the other players apparently. Same with closing schools etc - kids dont do anything else or go anywhere else.

 

[faible]

Don’t the 40 players interact with anyone? Shops, cafes, service station attendants? It will grow exponentially no difference

You really can't see the difference in scale between 40 players who arrive together separately to the public, and close to 100,000 in close proximity on public transport and in stadiums?

 

[SunshineBoy]

Yep, this is the most likely cause of disruption during the season I'd imagine. If both sides have healthy players then they can just play in an empty stadium.

The incubation is 14 days , they may not even show symptoms, the horse has bolted

 

[FRUMPY]

The incubation is 14 days , they may not even show symptoms, the horse has bolted

I blame John Longmire

 

[faible]

The incubation is 14 days , they may not even show symptoms, the horse has bolted

It's amazing how the response is either complete denial that we should bother doing anything at all to mitigate risks, or doomsday prepper.

 

[SunshineBoy]

You really can't see the difference in scale between 40 players who arrive together separately to the public, and close to 100,000 in close proximity on public transport and in stadiums?

All that means is there will be more infected the rate of growth will be exponential

 

[faible]

All that means is there will be more infected the rate of growth will be exponential

Yes. So we should probably limit the chances of that given a slower spread distributes the load on hospitals and such better.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Both Adelaide and Perth also host test cricket.


I don't think you can simply just assume you shift a 6 month football competition further back into the spring and summer.

There's a whole range of commercial sponsorship and hospitality contracts for both competitions that would need to be compensated..

The players all have contractual EBA agreements relating to shutdown holiday periods etc.

There's a shitload of issues with just shifting games to other states, grounds and time periods.




I think it's far more likely the season gets cancelled/shortened than simply shifted back into Spring & Summer.

That is obvious, however the AFL also have commercial interest and I would guess these far exceed any revenue generated by cricket... Additionally the ICC cricket calendar is very likely to be thrown on its head... and if this spreads through India rapidly, might be bans on Indian cricketers coming anyway... They are all hypotheticals and are all disastrous.. and every situation will have winners or losers..

These are all unprecedented, and I am saying is that if it came down to some disruption to the cricket calendar like pushing the opening test out until January then cancelling the ODIs or Big bash then to allow a shortened AFL season then it is the best case scenario..

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Just go and watch it the casino and spread the virus there - they aint closing the casino

Be intereseting how much the casino revenue is down with the Chinese staying at home..

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

You didn't say that.

You said vs the GF.

And it's not really 2-3 Indian games.

It's around 15 cricket games a summer, including the Big Bash.

It's also the priority of hosting the most prestigious matches of major international tournaments when they come here.

I'm sure the MCC would be thrilled to lose the T20 World Cup Final, the Women World Cup Final (in a week) and the next ODI World Cup Final hosted in Aus and more than likely a future World Test Championship final because they burnt the ICC, BCCI and Cricket Australia.


You are talking fantasy land stuff.

It would be the AFL's responsibility to finish their competition in a suitable manner and not impact on the other major tennant of the major stadia around the country, that other major tenant being cricket.

The AFL owns their own stadium, if worst comes to worst, they would have to play the rest of the season for Vic based sides out of Etihad....

I am afraid you are living in lala land and do not understand the weight that the AFL have within state and federal government.. None of those other tournaments will be effected, this will be seen for what it is.. a one of unprecedented event where everyone is making the best of a bad situation..

If the test series must go on at that time, I would imagine Princes Park could host or alternatively have Hobart take the test.

 

[Pykie]

I am afraid you are living in lala land and do not understand the weight that the AFL have within state and federal government.. None of those other tournaments will be effected, this will be seen for what it is.. a one of unprecedented event where everyone is making the best of a bad situation..

If the test series must go on at that time, I would imagine Princes Park could host or alternatively have Hobart take the test.

Yeah righto.

The boxing day test is getting shifted to Princess Park.

Lol.

 

[Brutalitops]

I am afraid you are living in lala land and do not understand the weight that the AFL have within state and federal government.. None of those other tournaments will be effected, this will be seen for what it is.. a one of unprecedented event where everyone is making the best of a bad situation..

If the test series must go on at that time, I would imagine Princes Park could host or alternatively have Hobart take the test.

Gov doesn't work like that. They won't let the AFL steamroll CA or MCC like that. Worst case scenario they'll bring in a mediator. The AFL have a case to make given the extenuating circumstances if the virus impacts the season significantly.

 

[Pykie]

Gov doesn't work like that. They won't let the AFL steamroll CA or MCC like that. Worst case scenario they'll bring in a mediator. The AFL have a case to make given the extenuating circumstances if the virus impacts the season significantly.

I also don't think he quite understands who and how big the BCCI are (who are touring here this year).

That includes influence over the Victorian government, who undertook an entire trade mission to India no more than 18 months ago, headed by Daniel Andrews.

 

[Tiger Toffee]

Don’t the 40 players interact with anyone? Shops, cafes, service station attendants? It will grow exponentially no difference

Just like any other illness ST, a massive 50 cases in this country but yet in the few hours since clinics opened up this morning, thousand's would have rolled through them country wide and been diagnosed with something or other, people this morning would've died from illness' somewhere in the country and no one gives a **** about that.

Like i said, this apocalypse is the funniest thing i have seen.

The way people are carrying on one would think

1. This is the first illness to ever happen
2. This is the only illness that is contagious
3. This is the only illness that can kill people

The whole world needs to calm the **** down.

 

[RUNVS]

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As long as the Swans best 22 doesn't die I don't mind too much

 

[Pykie]

Just like any other illness ST, a massive 50 cases in this country but yet in the few hours since clinics opened up this morning, thousand's would have rolled through them country wide and been diagnosed with something or other, people this morning would've died from illness' somewhere in the country and no one gives a fu** about that.

Like i said, this apocalypse is the funniest thing i have seen.

The way people are carrying on one would think

1. This is the first illness to ever happen
2. This is the only illness that is contagious
3. This is the only illness that can kill people

The whole world needs to calm the fu** down.

It's literally just broken out of China, how many cases and deaths did you want? It's exponential at this stage.

All of your points are correct.

However, this virus doesn't yet have a vaccine like most you are probably referring to.

Given the mortality rate, rate of spread and the fact a vaccine is still 12-18 months away at best;

Early predictions are stating as much as 70% of the Australian population might get it, which would amount to approximately 400,000 deaths from it.

400,000 deaths isn't serious?

We've seen a reduction in GDP of 0.5% in the months since it's outbreak, do you understand what effect that's going to cause across the economy?

 

[Brutalitops]

As long as the Swans best 22 doesn't die I don't mind too much

Lmao **** the rookie list though, am I right

 

[RUNVS]

Just like any other illness ST, a massive 50 cases in this country but yet in the few hours since clinics opened up this morning, thousand's would have rolled through them country wide and been diagnosed with something or other, people this morning would've died from illness' somewhere in the country and no one gives a fu** about that.

Like i said, this apocalypse is the funniest thing i have seen.

The way people are carrying on one would think

1. This is the first illness to ever happen
2. This is the only illness that is contagious
3. This is the only illness that can kill people

The whole world needs to calm the fu** down.

One day, hopefully a long way from now there is going to be another Spanish Flu, one that kills tens of millions. That is not going to be a fun time.

 

[Tiger Toffee]

You really can't see the difference in scale between 40 players who arrive together separately to the public, and close to 100,000 in close proximity on public transport and in stadiums?

You know you can catch an illness of someone purely by bumping into them in the street where hundreds of thousands of people cross paths every hour right, overreacting and cancelling soccer games isn't going to change that.

 

[RUNVS]

Lmao fu** the rookie list though, am I right

The rookie list gets used as human shields to prevent Buddy getting sick.

 

[FRUMPY]

It's literally just broken out of China, how many cases and deaths did you want? It's exponential at this stage.

All of your points are correct.

However, this virus doesn't yet have a vaccine like most you are probably referring to.

Given the mortality rate, rate of spread and the fact a vaccine is still 12-18 months away at best;

Early predictions are stating as much as 70% of the Australian population might get it, which would amount to approximately 400,000 deaths from it.

400,000 deaths isn't serious?

We've seen a reduction in GDP of 0.5% in the months since it's outbreak, do you understand what effect that's going to cause across the economy?

The Virus or the reaction? two different reasons to why the economy is going to be in trouble - the virus is the least of the two

Do you honestly believe there would be 400,000 deaths in Australia if 70% of the population get it? No number of deaths is acceptable but 400,000 is hyperbole

 

[Tiger Toffee]

One day, hopefully a long way from now there is going to be another Spanish Flu, one that kills tens of millions. That is not going to be a fun time.

More chance of Steve Smith getting dropped from the Aussie team than that happening. This is just another illness in the world like the many others out there that pose the same dangers that no one gives a crap about.