Covid 19 (OPEN DISCUSSION)

[Godfather32]

Says the Queenslander to the South Australian...

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

They use data from the imperal college of London who have been wrong through this whole pandemic .

What makes you think they are right this time ?

Imperial College Predicted Catastrophe in Every Country on Earth. Then the Models Failed. – AIER

www.aier.org

The Failure of Imperial College Modeling Is Far Worse than We Knew – AIER

www.aier.org

Love me a good right wing economic think tank guiding my opinions on a global pandemic.

 

[EagleEgo]

See if anyone here has the answers to the following questions
1. What are the number of ICU beds available in each states just before the pandamic?
2. What are the number of ICU beds available in each states today in 2021?
3. Can ICU beds for Covid be shared with other diseases?
4. If not for 3, What are the number of ICU bed available for Covid in each states today in 2021?
5. I have seen article reporting while Covid cases increased but the number of Covid ICU admission was STABLE. Is it because there were not enough ICU bed available for the Covid patients and hence stayed at a fix number?

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Love me a good right wing economic think tank guiding my opinions on a global pandemic.

Doesn't take away from the fact they have been horribly wrong in their modelling and governments around the world took their horribly wrong modelling and made policy on it .

Also shows they just guessed with their predictions and didn't use much scientific data

 

[Forward Press]

Doesn't take away from the fact the have been horribly wrong in their modelling and governments around the world took their horribly wrong modelling and made policy on it .

Also shows they just guessed with their predictions and didn't use much scientific data

It does, because the modelling was accurate with what data they had, and no amount of partisan hacks or conservative think tanks can change that. Governments made policy on the run based on what was known at the time for a pandemic of a novel virus, I don't fault them for chopping and changing when new data comes to light. It's extremely easy to take potshots as hindsight heroes. What about Trump's administration who dismissed COVID as being gone by Easter 2020?

I hope you're not part of the 'don't trust the experts, do your own research' crew.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

It does, because the modelling was accurate with what data they had, and no amount of partisan hacks or conservative think tanks can change that. Governments made policy on the run based on what was known at the time for a pandemic of a novel virus, I don't fault them for chopping and changing when new data comes to light. It's extremely easy to take potshots as hindsight heroes. What about Trump's administration who dismissed COVID as being gone by Easter 2020?

I hope you're not part of the 'don't trust the experts, do your own research' crew.

the Ferguson team’s models dramatically overstated the death toll of the disease, posting the worst performance record of any major epidemiology model.

Unfortunately governments backed the wrong horse .

Why would we take more advice from them again.

Fool me once shame on you fool me twice ?

 

[HoneyBadger35]

The mere comparison shows the pettiness and moral fragility of a large cohort of our society, where people equivocate temporary personal inconvenience with substantive human rights abuses.

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Yeah and the gulags were pretty bad too.

 

[Balls In]

the modelling was accurate with what data they had, and no amount of partisan hacks or conservative think tanks can change that.

No the modelling was inaccurate.

Love me a good right wing economic think tank guiding my opinions on a global pandemic.

The article makes a perfectly valid point about the failure of predictive models in guiding COVID policy response.

 

[kempy]

Scummo’s press conference has again shown that he certainly doesn’t intend to hold the hose when it comes to a national response to testing strategies. Lectures on Federal responsibilities don’t help.

And in WA:

McGowan says there are 704 new close contacts in the state.
“50are still to be tested. Of these, 44were at the mess hall event. The number has increased as a result o fa reconciliation of the data available. WA Police advised that of the 44 contacts from the mess hall, 16 people are unlikely to be contacted due to false or misleading information they provided through the contact register or ticket sales.
“WA Police and WA health continued to do everything possible to track the remaining people down.

I wonder if some of the people on this site are pleased with the actions of the 16 arse holes? It must be great supporting those who have zero concerns about potentially infecting others.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Scummo’s press conference has again shown that he certainly doesn’t intend to hold the hose when it comes to a national response to testing strategies. Lectures on Federal responsibilities don’t help.

And in WA:

McGowan says there are 704 new close contacts in the state.
“50are still to be tested. Of these, 44were at the mess hall event. The number has increased as a result o fa reconciliation of the data available. WA Police advised that of the 44 contacts from the mess hall, 16 people are unlikely to be contacted due to false or misleading information they provided through the contact register or ticket sales.
“WA Police and WA health continued to do everything possible to track the remaining people down.

I wonder if some of the people on this site are pleased with the actions of the 16 arse holes? It must be great supporting those who have zero concerns about potentially infecting others.

What do you think is going to happen when we open up in a month ?

I'll give you a tip - people will get infected .

 

[kempy]

No the modelling was inaccurate.

The article makes a perfectly valid point.

No it doesn’t

That organisation is nothing other than a propaganda organisation. For example,

A Right-Wing Think Tank Is Behind the Controversial Great Barrington Declaration Calling for COVID-19 Herd Immunity

An open letter that emerged earlier this month opposing COVID-19 shutdowns and calling for a “herd immunity” approach to addressing the coronavirus — which already has claimed over 220,000 American lives — is one of the latest examples of how right-wing ideology and think tanks that have long...

www.desmog.com

They are a bunch of hard-core right-wing zealots.


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[kempy]

What do you think is going to happen when we open up in a month ?

I'll give you a tip - people will get infected .

I’ll give you a tip - make sure you are one of the first to be infected. You can tell us how good it is.


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[Balls In]

No it doesn’t

That organisation is nothing other than a propaganda organisation. For example,

A Right-Wing Think Tank Is Behind the Controversial Great Barrington Declaration Calling for COVID-19 Herd Immunity

An open letter that emerged earlier this month opposing COVID-19 shutdowns and calling for a “herd immunity” approach to addressing the coronavirus — which already has claimed over 220,000 American lives — is one of the latest examples of how right-wing ideology and think tanks that have long...

www.desmog.com

They are a bunch of hard-core right-wing zealots.


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But the facts are facts no matter who presents them.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

No it doesn’t

That organisation is nothing other than a propaganda organisation. For example,

A Right-Wing Think Tank Is Behind the Controversial Great Barrington Declaration Calling for COVID-19 Herd Immunity

An open letter that emerged earlier this month opposing COVID-19 shutdowns and calling for a “herd immunity” approach to addressing the coronavirus — which already has claimed over 220,000 American lives — is one of the latest examples of how right-wing ideology and think tanks that have long...

www.desmog.com

They are a bunch of hard-core right-wing zealots.


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So you are countering apparent hard-core right-wing zealots with apparent crazy lefty climate change activists?

 

[Biggie]

 

[Balls In]

McGowan says there are 704 new close contacts in the state.

The Gulags will be bulging!

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

I’ll give you a tip - make sure you are one of the first to be infected. You can tell us how good it is.


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Im vaxxed so should be sweet can't get it or pass it on

Am i doing it right ?

 

[Priddis Is Done]

So no idea how true,

But apparently Corona is spreading hard over East from the testing lines, especially amongst the vulnerable.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

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I have a sudden urge to buy toilet paper

 

[Dazzler9]

So no idea how true,

But apparently Corona is spreading hard over East from the testing lines, especially amongst the vulnerable.

It wouldn't surprise me. I would've thought people should get a rapid antigen test first, then the PCR to confirm a positive result.

 

[Dazzler9]

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That doesn't seem like many tests. What was our daily average during the last lockdown?

 

[Biggie]

That doesn't seem like many tests. What was our daily average during the last lockdown?

No idea!

 

[Seadog]

The mere comparison shows the pettiness and moral fragility of a large cohort of our society, where people equivocate temporary personal inconvenience with substantive human rights abuses.

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[Godfather32]

So no idea how true,

But apparently Corona is spreading hard over East from the testing lines, especially amongst the vulnerable.

Most of the testing lines are people sitting in their own cars aren't they?

 

[Priddis Is Done]

That doesn't seem like many tests. What was our daily average during the last lockdown?

Yeah that really surprises me. Would have expected 40K a day?

Without getting into anti vax sentiment, the heat surely played a massive part?