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Crows best 22?
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Oldest player on our list. Check.
Torn a new one by Lindsey Thomas and Stehen Milne in consectutive weeks. They were much quicker to react then he was. Check
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One's played 50 games, the other has played 200. You do the maths
bit hard to tell who was marking Thomas, he always seemed to be on his own
Well.. you get 1 out of 3 for trying. He is the oldest player on our list. As for the other two:
- He barely spent any time playing on Thomas.. that disaster was due to Jaensch & Martin.
- Milne getting off the leash was due to the way Sanderson structures the team, not due to Doughty failing to keep a tight leash on him. If Doughty had been told to wear him like a glove, we barely would have seen Milne (and one of St Kilda's other small forwards would have done the damage instead).
Not true.. he almost always had a Crows defender in the same frame as him - about 2-3 steps behind, trying ineffectually to spoil his marks. Those defenders were Jaensch & Martin, not Doughty.
Difference is that I recanted re: Petrenko a while ago.. You're still spouting rubbish.
only one of those is a defender
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Norm Smith Medallist
Doughty has never been a bloke who is an automatic selection at any stage through his career. Hes always been a gap filler.
And as for hi 200 games experience, shouldnt that have helped him work out he should have put milne on a tighter leash? He shouldnt need the coach to tell him that. Under 8s stuff.
Aside from 200 games more experience. Which the other blokes are only going to get from playing the game. Whatdoes Doughty offer that, Smith, Brown, Jaensch, Johncock, Martin etc do not at this point?
And as for hi 200 games experience, shouldnt that have helped him work out he should have put milne on a tighter leash? He shouldnt need the coach to tell him that. Under 8s stuff.
Aside from 200 games more experience. Which the other blokes are only going to get from playing the game. Whatdoes Doughty offer that, Smith, Brown, Jaensch, Johncock, Martin etc do not at this point?
Martin will be a 150--200 game AFL player. Hope it's for us.
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Norm Smith Medallist
Very tough on Brown and Smith,
jackster83
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He seems pretty happy at Richmond...
Quit now and stop embarrassing yourself with your blind hatred and ignorance. Since 2005 he has missed just 9 out of 174 games. Not once in that time has he been dropped due to poor form - injury is the only reason he doesn't have a perfect record.
If that's not "automatic selection", then neither were Ricciuto, McLeod, Goodwin or Edwards "automatic selections" - all of whom missed more games than Doughty in the same period.
I'm sure the U8s are happy to run around disobeying the specific instructions from their coach. AFL players who do it have a tendency to be dragged from the field and sent back to the Magoos the following week.
Nobody knows what Brown has to offer. Johncock's current form is so bad that he wore the green bib last time he played - and most people aren't expecting him to be named in the team tonight. Jaensch & Martin can't defend to save themselves. That just leaves Smith, who is so much better than Doughty that he's been playing for Sturt for the last two weeks, while Doughty continues playing in the AFL - and is one of only 11 players rated as having "broken even or better" last week according to Sando.
Give it up and quit while you're behind. All you're doing is digging a deeper hole for yourself every time you post.
Which is precisely why the other two would be playing SANFL this week if I were a selector.
Defender or not, Jaensch & Martin were the players who were supposed to be minding Thomas.
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Norm Smith Medallist
Just because he has only missed that number of games means squat. It just means that we havent had the depth. (like we do now) for an average footballer to have pressure put on him.
No one knows what Brown has to offer because a scrubber like Doughty keeps getting picked every week. Johncock whilst out of form yes, has more football ability in his pinky then Doughty does.
Smith plays for WWT, for starters. When he was playing he did quite well, and was very stiff to get dropped. In terms of pure footy ability it is just experience that he lacks over Mick, and he cant get that if once again a scrubber is picked ahead of him.
Martin is a dud, delist now please.
Jaensch's disposal would be in the top half dozen or so at the club. He does need time to develop other aspects. Until he is at a higher level in this area the SANFL is probably the best place to do it. But once again his development in these roles are being hindered through Doughtys selection.
Pure 100% garbage, without a single redeeming iota of truth.
Doughty was a first choice member of the Crowbots from 2005-2006, arguably the best team (though certainly not the luckiest) that Adelaide has ever fielded. No, they didn't win the flag, but they were far more dominant than the teams of 97 & 98 which were lucky enough to do so. There was never any question of depth in those years, yet Doughty rarely missed a game.
All you're showing here is your own ignorance. Keep digging...
Of all the players listed, Johncock is the only one to have demonstrated that he has more talent than Doughty - and I agree that he has more talent in his pinky than Doughty does in his whole body. Unfortunately, right now, Johncock's form stinks.
I'm fairly sure that Sanderson and the other coaches have an excellent idea of what Brown has to offer. I don't - and I assume you don't either. In any case, Brown is not being kept out of the side because of Doughty (who is anything but a "scrubber"), he's being kept out of the side by the likes of Jaensch & Martin.
Smith may well have more talent than Doughty and will certainly be around long after Doughty has retired. He was dropped for a reason - a reason which you and the rest of the BigFooty "shiny toy lovers club" refuse to admit - that his form was lousy and had been for a while. I agree he lacks experience, but his future doesn't lie in defence - he's a midfielder born & bred.
Agree. No argument here.
Jaensch's kicking is elite. Unfortunately that's almost the only weapon he has at his disposal. His shortcomings are blatantly obvious and his kicking is nowhere near enough to bring him to the positive side of the ledger. He's just marking time until the likes of Brown force him out of the team on a permanent basis. I fail to see how his development is being hindered by Doughty's presence, given that he's continued to gain selection since his early omission.
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Norm Smith Medallist
Youn sound like a por power supporter. How does his 2005-06 form have anything to do with how well he is playing currently?
I was responding to your claim that he's only ever gained selection because we lacked depth.. I was showing that he was a clear best-22 player back in a period where our depth was unquestioned (and arguably greater than at any other point in the club's history).
The reality (however unpalatable to you), is that he's been a regular, "automatic selection" member of our best-22 since 2005 - and that continues to be the case today. He's arguably the 7th best defender the club has ever had - behind Rutten, Hart, Johncock, Smart, Bassett and Bock. His position has never been in any doubt at the selection panel from 2005-2012 and his position in the team remains 100% secure as of today. His selection is not, nor has it ever been, on the basis of a "lack of depth" - he is selected because he is a very good player who does his job dependably each and every week. The job he does is highly valued and respected by his teammates, the club, the selectors and the coaching staff - it's only ignorant nuffies like you, who fail to show him the respect that he deserves.
With your fingers crossed. You still said his first 30 games were rubbish and as far back as two games ago you said he was poor. Now that was rubbish.
Important to our flags yes.. but he only had 3 good years (96-98) and played just 88 games for the AFC. I'll give it to Dogga any day of the week.
