News Crows Press Conference - The Fallout Continues *now with poll*

[deeztreez]

Just a question...if Pykey, Burton and Fagan gave such an emotional and/or heartfelt apology to the players, do the members deserve 1 from either of them as well?

 

[Cap]

What exactly does Caro have on us that would suggest draft sanctions? Put up or shut-up you leather faced campaigner.

Rumour and innuendo thanks to a club that hasn't shut this shit down.

 

[Betts are off]

What exactly does Caro have on us that would suggest draft sanctions? Put up or shut-up you leather faced campaigner.

An agenda!

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Rumour and innuendo thanks to a club that hasn't shut this shit down.

What would you like the club to say exactly? They lost all their credibility regarding CM half way through the year when they had that ridiculous press conference. Nothing the club says about the camp would be taken seriously.

 

[jackster83]

What would you like the club to say exactly? They lost all their credibility regarding CM half way through the year when they had that ridiculous press conference. Nothing the club says about the camp would be taken seriously.

We don't need them to say anything. That time has come and gone.

What we need to do is sack the person responsible (Burton).

 

[Mr_Moogle]

We don't need them to say anything. That time has come and gone.

What we need to do is sack the person responsible (Burton).

You're preaching to the choir buddy. I made those sack Burton avatars.

 

[SaltPeter]

If he was, he ain't anymore





If that's true, and he smokes weed for a living, then he's arguably smarter than any of us - he's getting paid to do something he loves. Today I got paid to try to work out why a financial model was grossing up dividends by 280% - i worked it out, but it's not something i'd enjoy. All the things i enjoy are done between 5pm and 8.30am M-F and weekends

Any chance you can share the financial model (bullet points would be fine)?

Thanks

 

[King Elvis]

Pretty funny. The AFC are allergic to the truth at present.

 

[Deaneus!]

Any chance you can share the financial model (bullet points would be fine)?

Thanks

Sure.

Step 1 - have the model stack the gross-up factor instead of individually selecting the amount applying to each model (70%)

Step 2 - have four models for that project so that we have 70% + 70% + 70% + 70%

Step 3 - profit!

 

[Cap]

What would you like the club to say exactly? They lost all their credibility regarding CM half way through the year when they had that ridiculous press conference. Nothing the club says about the camp would be taken seriously.

Nothing they can do now.

7 months ago maybe.

 

[ftmch]

Still not sure why none of these clowns in the media who are continually pushing this haven't ponied up with the actual version of events. If the camp was as sensational and horrific as they profess it to be, they should / would normally be clambering over themselves to get it to print.

That they haven't suggests there's still a fair bit of ambiguity in their minds over what's actually happened.

If you've got a verified facts that support these 'atrocities' they keep referring to, then fair play - own it, publish it and put the club to the sword. But if you don't, stop the f***ing sniping from the sidelines. It's hard to seem objective when it involves your club, but bugger me they are doing nothing to enhance the perceived professionalism of footy journalism these days.

 

[jenny61_99]

Still not sure why none of these clowns in the media who are continually pushing this haven't ponied up with the actual version of events. If the camp was as sensational and horrific as they profess it to be, they should / would normally be clambering over themselves to get it to print.

That they haven't suggests there's still a fair bit of ambiguity in their minds over what's actually happened.

If you've got a verified facts that support these 'atrocities' they keep referring to, then fair play - own it, publish it and put the club to the sword. But if you don't, stop the f***ing sniping from the sidelines. It's hard to seem objective when it involves your club, but bugger me they are doing nothing to enhance the perceived professionalism of footy journalism these days.

I still think it's because they think our boys did an MKP course (which has seriously weird shit in it), which I believe is completely different to what CM offered. I reckon that is the sole reason they are attacking this with the ferocity they are.

 

[hey shorty]

Still not sure why none of these clowns in the media who are continually pushing this haven't ponied up with the actual version of events. If the camp was as sensational and horrific as they profess it to be, they should / would normally be clambering over themselves to get it to print.

That they haven't suggests there's still a fair bit of ambiguity in their minds over what's actually happened.

If you've got a verified facts that support these 'atrocities' they keep referring to, then fair play - own it, publish it and put the club to the sword. But if you don't, stop the f***ing sniping from the sidelines. It's hard to seem objective when it involves your club, but bugger me they are doing nothing to enhance the perceived professionalism of footy journalism these days.

I tend to agree.

The camp was a disaster, the club knows it and certain players have said it, but if you listen to certain outlets it's like these players had spent 4 years in Auschwitz.

 

[Tex200]

Still not sure why none of these clowns in the media who are continually pushing this haven't ponied up with the actual version of events. If the camp was as sensational and horrific as they profess it to be, they should / would normally be clambering over themselves to get it to print.

That they haven't suggests there's still a fair bit of ambiguity in their minds over what's actually happened.

If you've got a verified facts that support these 'atrocities' they keep referring to, then fair play - own it, publish it and put the club to the sword. But if you don't, stop the f***ing sniping from the sidelines. It's hard to seem objective when it involves your club, but bugger me they are doing nothing to enhance the perceived professionalism of footy journalism these days.

Agree it's frustrating, we'd all like to know the specifics. Clearly we are leaking like a sieve, sources from inside the club. I've no doubt the media would be happy to splash details across the front page but suspect either 1 of 2 things prevent this;

Their sources only know a certain amount which has been fully detailed in print; or

Their sources have given them everything but on condition it's not fully detailed in print. There may be intimate details that "out" the source if they are made known. Even though certain things can't be used it still gives them a basis to push and seek answers.

My gut feel is its option 2.

 

[Crows I Am]

Do you honestly believe that?

Like the club sycophants who post on this board, the ones who are blindsided by the facts and are closed eyed tothe media the board and administration won’t believe anything. They don’t believe they did anything wrong.

Nothing will change. No one will be fired and we will all move on. This is why they want it to go away into the deep of the night.

Nothing to see here folks. Time to move on.

We will be back to finishing 4-8th on the ladder again next year and get eliminated week 2 of the finals and then all will be right in the world again.

 

[feenix67]

I still think it's because they think our boys did an MKP course (which has seriously weird shit in it), which I believe is completely different to what CM offered. I reckon that is the sole reason they are attacking this with the ferocity they are.

Have you done any reading to back your continual line that CM doesn't have elements of MKP in it? Or is this just a steadfast refusal to dig for fear of what you might uncover?

 

[1970crow]

It is worse on Burton that he supposedly didnt know.

Makes him look even more incompetent.


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No remotely competent person would choose that particular excuse. "I was wondering why those guys weren't turning up to the sessions at Footy Park that I'd organised."

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

No remotely competent person would choose that particular excuse. "I was wondering why those guys weren't turning up to the sessions at Footy Park that I'd organised."

We told him that training was starting the week after

 

[1970crow]

Why is Burton worth protecting beyond being mates with Roo? Is there anything else? He isn't well educated in his field, he does not have a good career track record, and he hasn't performed in his current role.

As always it is a matter of having another go at the Crows, 'only one bad year' they say. The Crows and their media lackeys twist and turn to frame these trends as events all for allowing successive chances for personnel that repeatedly fail.

It is so piss weak.

Sacking Burton reflects poorly on the morons that appointed him and his training wheels into the role.

 

[TexForPM]

What exactly does Caro have on us that would suggest draft sanctions? Put up or shut-up you leather faced campaigner.

where is she saying this?

 

[Scrogdogg]

We don't need them to say anything. That time has come and gone.

What we need to do is sack the person responsible (Burton).

We certainly need them to do something........show something......anything but what we keep seeing, hearing and getting.

 

[Scrogdogg]

Still not sure why none of these clowns in the media who are continually pushing this haven't ponied up with the actual version of events. If the camp was as sensational and horrific as they profess it to be, they should / would normally be clambering over themselves to get it to print.

That they haven't suggests there's still a fair bit of ambiguity in their minds over what's actually happened.

If you've got a verified facts that support these 'atrocities' they keep referring to, then fair play - own it, publish it and put the club to the sword. But if you don't, stop the f***ing sniping from the sidelines. It's hard to seem objective when it involves your club, but bugger me they are doing nothing to enhance the perceived professionalism of footy journalism these days.

The media regard us with hostility because we don't engage. We make their job difficult and so innuendo and half truth potshots becomes the name of the game. Don't know how we fix it though.

 

[ftmch]

Agree it's frustrating, we'd all like to know the specifics. Clearly we are leaking like a sieve, sources from inside the club. I've no doubt the media would be happy to splash details across the front page but suspect either 1 of 2 things prevent this;

Their sources only know a certain amount which has been fully detailed in print; or

Their sources have given them everything but on condition it's not fully detailed in print. There may be intimate details that "out" the source if they are made known. Even though certain things can't be used it still gives them a basis to push and seek answers.

My gut feel is its option 2.

But in terms of Option 2, there is really no difference between saying 'if what was said to Sauce Jacobs was said to me etc...' (which several of them have freely bandied about), and actually stating what was said to Sauce Jacobs, in the context of potentially implicating a source (no pun intended).

I think a third option is that they may not completely trust the veracity of what they are being told.

 

[Cap]

So when is the AFL report coming out?

What happened to the tuesday crisis meeting?

When are the delisted players going to tell us about the naked tree thing.?

 

[Large 1]

They are not comparing the two events. They are comparing the lies, the denial of them doing anything wrong, the board being unaccountable to any outcome.

So what you are saying is they’re comparing the two events.