List Mgmt. Dan Houston requests trade to Victoria - will stay if deal can't be done

[Malibu#27]

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[Ford Fairlane]

Have I missed something here? We've gone from 2 top 10 picks, to 2 first rounders, to one first rounder and a good second, to pick 2 being overs?

Are we being buttered up to take another rogering?

AA in the last two seasons, 3 years left on contract, will easily be in any clubs top few. If Rioli and Smith are inside the top 10, then two first rounders for Dan isn't unreasonable.

You're worried because supporters on a football forum can't agree on a value?

Has the club changed its position publicly?

 

[JakeNeadeFan]

Not all pick 2's are made equal.

This year's pick 2 is not a huge amount more valuable than pick 10. The draft is even, there aren't too many standout players and clubs have varying opinions of the players at the top end.

 

[Bevoman]

Not all pick 2's are made equal.

This year's pick 2 is not a huge amount more valuable than pick 10. The draft is even, there aren't too many standout players and clubs have varying opinions of the players at the top end.

Suns are more equal than others

 

[Willsy10]

Can’t we just convince him to give us one more year until the likes of Sinn, Lorenz come on or Williams pulls his finger out


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[Bevoman]

Just tell Norf if they want Dan we want Pick 2 and change

North have only offered next year's first, I reckon Dan would rather stay another year in preferance to joining that mob.

 

[powermacs]

Can’t we just convince him to give us one more year until the likes of Sinn, Lorenz come on or Williams pulls his finger out


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The 3 years left on his contract is all the convincing he needs. If anyone is offering a future pick they can see him in 26

 

[minno12]

North would be really keen to get Trainor so can't see them giving up pick 2 unless they can split it and keep the pick that guarantees them getting Trainor. I'd be thinking they'd be worried about saints pouncing on him as well with their two picks. So yeah unless we can find a way for roos to get a pick back to get Trainor then I can't see them giving up pick 2 for Houston

 

[Ford Fairlane]

North would be really keen to get Trainor so can't see them giving up pick 2 unless they can split it and keep the pick that guarantees them getting Trainor. I'd be thinking they'd be worried about saints pouncing on him as well with their two picks. So yeah unless we can find a way for roos to get a pick back to get Trainor then I can't see them giving up pick 2 for Houston

All that means is that they're not serious about getting him.

I'm amazed at the number of posters here who think these clubs pursuing Houston and throwing huge offers at him can then pick and choose what they give up to get him.

 

[240volt]

Noble and Rioli are only "worth" that because Gold Coast don't need those picks. Those prices wouldn't be entertained at other clubs. Dan is worth Pick 2 though.

This is why things are so fkd.
A team like Gold Coast who couldn’t win a chock raffle don’t need good picks because like GWS they’ve had everything including the kitchen sink given to them.

 

[TazD]

This is why things are so fkd.
A team like Gold Coast who couldn’t win a chock raffle don’t need good picks because like GWS they’ve had everything including the kitchen sink given to them.

Yeah, but on the flipside without the Northern Academies, the NSW and QLD clubs will use their picks to draft kids from the Heartland states.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Yeah, but on the flipside without the Northern Academies, the NSW and QLD clubs will use their picks to draft kids from the Heartland states.

But then they will have to at least use the same draft picks as the rest of us.

 

[Andre]

Everyone says this. But if we did abolish compensation, you can say goodbye to any notion of equalisation.

The only solution is to scrap free agency entirely. Which imo is the right thing. It doesn’t suit our game.

The shit part is every club (via picks pushed back) pays the price for one club benefiting. Scrap restricted free agency and for the current full free agents, make it that the club they are going to has to pay the current compensation cost to the club coming from. Players still get to go where they want to (the free agent part), but it's just the club benefiting paying the cost not every other club not involved.

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

Noble and Rioli are only "worth" that because Gold Coast don't need those picks. Those prices wouldn't be entertained at other clubs. Dan is worth Pick 2 though.

Paying that price for those players and then expecting a first for a twice/thrice dropped Lukosius on a back-loaded contract is less than consistent.

 

[Revan11]

Pick 2 for a soon to be 28yr old in May next year is massive.
Pick 2 itself is probably worth two picks in the later part of the top 10. I think you are massively underselling what a top 3 pick is worth compared to picks greater than 5 or 6.

A club is giving up an absolute star at pick 2 for the next 12-15 years for a star half back who probably has 3-4 years of his absolute prime left.

Pick 2 this year would be at one of its lowest ever values. There’s a reason North and West Coast are looking to split picks 2&3

 

[TazD]

But then they will have to at least use the same draft picks as the rest of us.

Without their academies producing players the overall pool is smaller. Imagine every team having two or three Jeds running around.

Once the revised discount comes in next year it should be better.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Without their academies producing players the overall pool is smaller. Imagine every team having two or three Jeds running around.

Once the revised discount comes in next year it should be better.

All AFL clubs have Academies but are limited by who they can take from them. All the players should be available.

 

[1954]

Can’t we just convince him to give us one more year until the likes of Sinn, Lorenz come on or Williams pulls his finger out


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Even if Houston is traded it wouldn't surprise me greatly if Williams is delisted.

 

[Us against the rest]

Like that most free agents leave the lesser clubs to go to top clubs, all this is doing is making the top clubs stronger and the bottom clubs weaker.

 

[cosmicwinduptoy]

Latest news:

Butters went around that range. If this eventuates hope the club has eyes on a similar talent.

 

[Rash]

-2 first rounds picks around pick 13-18
Or
-A top 5 pick and a late first/early second

If no club can cough that up, they can get fuc*ed

 

[davesnothere]

North would be really keen to get Trainor so can't see them giving up pick 2 unless they can split it and keep the pick that guarantees them getting Trainor. I'd be thinking they'd be worried about saints pouncing on him as well with their two picks. So yeah unless we can find a way for roos to get a pick back to get Trainor then I can't see them giving up pick 2 for Houston

Think North are actually keen on Noah Mraz.

A mid teens pick would pretty much be a safe call to pick him up. We should also be keen on Mraz.

Was going around months ago they liked him anyway maybe things change but he's as likely as any KPD in the draft.

 

[240volt]

Yeah, but on the flipside without the Northern Academies, the NSW and QLD clubs will use their picks to draft kids from the Heartland states.

That is true but we never got this massive advantage.
All about trying to take over from the NRL.
$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[Schulzenfest]

Like that most free agents leave the lesser clubs to go to top clubs, all this is doing is making the top clubs stronger and the bottom clubs weaker.

Yep.

Broke - Scrap free agency compo picks
Woke - Scrap free agency entirely

 

[Coobk001]

Article online says Carlton going to give up 2025 1st and 2nd to get pick 13 from Suns.

Seems stupid, pick 13 won't be enough to get the deal done for Dan. They'd need to give 13 and 12 + would've given 2nd next year for nothing as 12 + f1 probably gets it done regardless

 

[FishingRick04]

Article online says Carlton going to give up 2025 1st and 2nd to get pick 13 from Suns.

Seems stupid, pick 13 won't be enough to get the deal done for Dan. They'd need to give 13 and 12 + would've given 2nd next year for nothing as 12 + f1 probably gets it done regardless

Why not give us 11 and next years 1st and 2nd done