Trade Requested Dan Houston [UFA 2027] - wants to head to Victoria

[Libbaaaa]

Broken record time but has Houston even given the slightest indication he would play for North?

 

[Makeshift Park]

Broken record time but has Houston even given the slightest indication he would play for North?

 

[PatternAgainstUser]

Houston’s value is what port says it is since he contracted. Sorry try again

It's not what they say, it's what they'll agree to.

Carlton say: 1st and 3rd/Owies/Kennedy
Port say: 2x 1sts

Deal gets done at a first rounder and a second rounder.

 

[Brian McGee]

It's not what they say, it's what they'll agree to.

Carlton say: 1st and 3rd/Owies/Kennedy
Port say: 2x 1sts

Deal gets done at a first rounder and a second rounder.

If the second is high enough to form the majority of the lukosious deal I agree with you. If it’s a Carlton future second that will be mid-late 30’s I can’t see it happening.

 

[PatternAgainstUser]

If the second is high enough to form the majority of the lukosious deal I agree with you. If it’s a Carlton future second that will be mid-late 30’s I can’t see it happening.

We have a current second, so we could potentially use Owies or Kennedy in a trade to bring that 2nd rounder down - similar to the trade we made for Fisher last year.

So theoretically Pick 11 and (eg) Pick 25 for Houston.

 

[Makeshift Park]

It's not what they say, it's what they'll agree to.

Carlton say: 1st and 3rd/Owies/Kennedy
Port say: 2x 1sts

Deal gets done at a first rounder and a second rounder.

Okay, but why would Port agree to that when they've got North's F1 on the table?

Even if North had to trade it out for picks this year, Port could expect to receive more than pick 11 and 31 from NM, which is the most Carlton would be able to offer, by your reckoning.

 

[boncer34]

Okay, but why would Port agree to that when they've got North's F1 on the table?

Even if North had to trade it out for picks this year, Port could expect to receive more than pick 11 and 31 from NM, which is the most Carlton would be able to offer, by your reckoning.

Because North is the alternative for Houston not the preference. They will always be able to pay more than Carlton but if Carlton offer a reasonable deal it'd be incredibly unusual for Port to say no.

 

[PatternAgainstUser]

Okay, but why would Port agree to that when they've got North's F1 on the table?

Even if North had to trade it out for picks this year, Port could expect to receive more than pick 11 and 31 from NM, which is the most Carlton would be able to offer, by your reckoning.

North aren't currently in play, so it doesn't matter what their hypothetical offer is.

Trades aren't dictated by the max amount of compensation a (different) team can pay. I'm sure Port and the Blues are negotiating behind the scenes and will either see that a trade can be arranged based on their ins and outs or Houston will stay at Port.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

It's not what they say, it's what they'll agree to.

Carlton say: 1st and 3rd/Owies/Kennedy
Port say: 2x 1sts

Deal gets done at a first rounder and a second rounder.

No houston is worth what port says he worth, whether your club wants to pay is up to them. He is contracted, he will stay unless we get a good deal

 

[Makeshift Park]

North aren't currently in play, so it doesn't matter what their hypothetical offer is.

Trades aren't dictated by the max amount of compensation a (different) team can pay. I'm sure Port and the Blues are negotiating behind the scenes and will either see that a trade can be arranged based on their ins and outs or Houston will stay at Port.

As of four days ago, Port were flat out refusing to deal with Carlton.

‘Absolutely delusional’: Fuse lit over Houston deal as Power fumes over ‘arrogant’ rival

‘Absolutely delusional’: Fuse lit over Houston deal as Power fumes over ‘arrogant’ rival

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[boncer34]

As of four days ago, Port were flat out refusing to deal with Carlton.

‘Absolutely delusional’: Fuse lit over Houston deal as Power fumes over ‘arrogant’ rival

‘Absolutely delusional’: Fuse lit over Houston deal as Power fumes over ‘arrogant’ rival

www.foxsports.com.au

First time watching an AFL trade period?

 

[Makeshift Park]

First time watching an AFL trade period?

Maybe I was being a bit oblique for you.

I was questioning why he's so certain that Carlton and Port are negotiating behind the scenes, when there has been nothing reported to suggest they are.

 

[Port2Power]

End of the day Houston is NOT desperate to get to Carlton he just wants to be back in Victoria.
Port will dictate terms, if Carlton keeps low balling we will be dealing with North simple

 

[PatternAgainstUser]

No houston is worth what port says he worth, whether your club wants to pay is up to them. He is contracted, he will stay unless we get a good deal

That's not how negotiating works.

Port will have a minimum amount they will be happy to accept, the Blues will have a maximum price they'll be happy to pay and up to the point both sets of list managers will scramble to get the best deal for the club.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

End of the day Houston is NOT desperate to get to Carlton he just wants to be back in Victoria.
Port will dictate terms, if Carlton keeps low balling we will be dealing with North simple

Correct, if he was desperate for Carlton he would had nominated them already

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

That's not how negotiating works.

Port will have a minimum amount they will be happy to accept, the Blues will have a maximum price they'll be happy to pay and up to the point both sets of list managers will scramble to get the best deal for the club.

For an uncontracted/unhappy player you would be correct. Houston is happy to stay at port, and is contracted for 3 more years. Carlton literally hold no negotiation power. It’s pay what port wants or he stays

 

[PatternAgainstUser]

Maybe I was being a bit oblique for you.

I was questioning why he's so certain that Carlton and Port are negotiating behind the scenes, when there has been nothing reported to suggest they are.

It wouldn't be behind the scenes if everyone knew both clubs were negotiating behind the scenes.

 

[boncer34]

Maybe I was being a bit oblique for you.

I was questioning why he's so certain that Carlton and Port are negotiating behind the scenes, when there has been nothing reported to suggest they are.

And I was amused some people still believe the huff and puff published in the media.

 

[PatternAgainstUser]

For an uncontracted/unhappy player you would be correct. Houston is happy to stay at port, and is contracted for 3 more years. Carlton literally hold no negotiation power. It’s pay what port wants or he stays

It's not about (Port) power, it's about historically how these kind of deals unfold.

 

[Wargreymon90]

It's not about (Port) power, it's about historically how these kind of deals unfold.

I’d say this is similar to the Gibbs Adelaide situation. I don’t even think our demands will change next year as well.

Difference is that Houston is a much better player

 

[rainwizard39]

It's not about (Port) power, it's about historically how these kind of deals unfold.

Doesn’t sound like it.



Times ticking for Carlton to find something good.

 

[PatternAgainstUser]

I’d say this is similar to the Gibbs Adelaide situation. I don’t even think our demands will change next year as well.

Difference is that Houston is a much better player

Adelaide wouldn't pay the price if they had their time again.

Unfortunately they significantly underestimated the Blues holding him to his contract and gave up an additional first round pick the next year, partly to save face.

 

[PatternAgainstUser]

Doesn’t sound like it.



Times ticking for Carlton to find something good.

There's plenty of time to organise a trade to bring in a first round pick - same for the Pies, who'll be a good choice if they can engineer a deal.

 

[Wargreymon90]

Adelaide wouldn't pay the price if they had their time again.

Unfortunately they significantly underestimated the Blues holding him to his contract and gave up an additional first round pick the next year, partly to save face.

I don’t see how we would be any different tbh.

 

[Shinboner roo]

I’d say this is similar to the Gibbs Adelaide situation. I don’t even think our demands will change next year as well.

Difference is that Houston is a much better player

I agree will you but he will be a year older at 28, if Norths FF is genuinely on the table this year and Port say no we will keep him and look at it next year they have even right to, but then we have a disaster of a year again next year and we have pick 2 or 3 next year i can guarantee you North will not be using it then on Houston.