Vic Daniel Andrews and the Statue of Limitations

[Pakenhamsaint]

He thumbed his nose at Murdoch who were incensed

All the.reporting since is payback

It's a shame no other leader followed his lead.

He's shown the way on destroying the Murdoch press

 

[FIGJAM]

I'm still not sure what you're on about. Last time i checked Andrews won a hat-trick of elections - a rare feat anywhere this day and age. Most of them by a landslide. Yet youre on here doing an "i told you so" routine'? you need to get over it ( and yourself while youre at it)

Like I said, I voted for the Andrews government on ball two of his “hat trick”. His run of wins doesn't make him exempt from scrutiny.

I’d liken Andrews’ stint to Ed’s stint as President with the Pies. The first half was a breath of fresh air after general ineptitude. But the second half was ****ing toxic, as we descended into an autocratic mess of faceplant after faceplant.

It needed to be called out at the time and it needs to be readdressed as time goes by to ensure that we (both Victoria and Collingwood FC) don't make the same mistakes again.

 

[kalex6251]

Like I said, I voted for the Andrews government on ball two of his “hat trick”. His run of wins doesn't make him exempt from scrutiny.

I’d liken Andrews’ stint to Ed’s stint as President with the Pies. The first half was a breath of fresh air after general ineptitude. But the second half was ****ing toxic, as we descended into an autocratic mess of faceplant after faceplant.

It needed to be called out at the time and it needs to be readdressed as time goes by to ensure that we (both Victoria and Collingwood FC) don't make the same mistakes again.

thats fine ...... but the attention on andrews from the 'chairman dan' campaigns jointly pushed by abject political failures like louise staley and tim smith along with partisan conservative cheerleaders across all major news outlets has gone well beyond scrutiny ...... well beyond

when one of the major dailys in this state publishes a series of front page stories 'interviewing' the stairs where he fell then we have gone well past the perfectly acceptable democratic pursuit of holding power to account - it is shameful unhinged nonsense that treats the democratic process with contempt ..... and thats where a lot of the so-called 'anti-dan' movement now sits (even on this website)

 

[Saint]

The lack of independent media and oppositions with actual policies in modern politics is the reason Governments are acting with such hubris. There's no consequences for anything any more. Because we all know the media and opposition are also untrustworthy and have no investment in truth or the future.

 

[FIGJAM]

thats fine ...... but the attention on andrews from the 'chairman dan' campaigns jointly pushed by abject political failures like louise staley and tim smith along with partisan conservative cheerleaders across all major news outlets has gone well beyond scrutiny ...... well beyond

As a centrist myself, we can both agree that the extreme-ish right's "Chairman Dan" arguments aren't helpful to either side and if anything (IMV), fortifies the left to a degree and is negative in its sentiment.

when one of the major dailys in this state publishes a series of front page stories 'interviewing' the stairs where he fell then we have gone well past the perfectly acceptable democratic pursuit of holding power to account - it is shameful unhinged nonsense that treats the democratic process with contempt ..... and thats where a lot of the so-called 'anti-dan' movement now sits (even on this website)

Fully agreed on this front. The Murdoch press is mostly shit (and am not just saying this because of the bad tips on yesterday's races from the HUN). Rachael Baxendale was mostly combinative and I don't like her, but you need to be able digest an alternate point of view and line of questioning....always!). Otherwise you might just might as well read the Pravda and demand a local version thereof.