Traded Daniel Rioli - Traded with picks 51, 61, 70 & 76 to GC for picks 6 & 26

[tiger_tough]

What are you thinking it will be?

Probably 6+29 or at a stretch 6 and 23 for Rioli + a little something something

And as just mentioned by Riley & Cal.

It won’t be p13 which seems to be some wet soapy wet dream you tiger fans have had for weeks.

What'd they say? missed it.

 

[stavro#4]

Probably 6+29 or at a stretch 6 and 23 for Rioli + a little something something

What'd they say? missed it.

That p13 you have missed the boat. Going to the Houston winner.

Will be p6+ another and they don’t have another that early.

 

[THE_GUN]

The Suns will have better offers for 13. Unless Richmond have a F1 they want to pass on that is.......

You are trying to sell cap space is what's actually happening.

We are selling Cap space
But if we can get 2 x F2's with cap space thats a better deal for GC than Pies F1 which will probably be 13+

Richmond's F1 will be pick #1 Dyson Sharp i would say that will be JHF territory of trade next year

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

We are selling Cap space
But if we can get 2 x F2's with cap space thats a better deal for GC than Pies F1 which will probably be 13+

Richmond's F1 will be pick #1 Dyson Sharp i would say that will be JHF territory of trade next year

Suspect GC might give you 23 if you provide enough points to make it worth their while. You may have a lot of unused picks this year.

 

[Danog]

The Suns will have better offers for 13. Unless Richmond have a F1 they want to pass on that is.......

You are trying to sell cap space is what's actually happening.

Pick 13 in addition to 6 was never reasonable.

Have said all along 6 and 23.

 

[THE_GUN]

That p13 you have missed the boat. Going to the Houston winner.

Will be p6+ another and they don’t have another that early.

LOL Both of the Pies & Blues offers for #13 are pretty crap if you have a close look at it

Pies want #13 for F1 + Noble but also want gold cost to throw in #23
so they want #23 for Noble and straight trade #13 for F1
#13 is worth way more than the pies F1 as they are in the same range in a worse draft

Blues offering F1 for #13 their F1 will be around #18

If Richmond get 2 F2 picks that could be worth more points than the above 2

 

[GCS in 11]

LOL Both of the Pies & Blues offers for #13 are pretty crap if you have a close look at it

Pies want #13 for F1 + Noble but also want gold cost to throw in #23
so they want #23 for Noble and straight trade #13 for F1
#13 is worth way more than the pies F1 as they are in the same range in a worse draft

Blues offering F1 for #13 their F1 will be around #18

If Richmond get 2 F2 picks that could be worth more points than the above 2

The Blues are offering F1 + F2 for 13, that beats any 2 F2 combo you could make.

 

[tiger_tough]

And as just mentioned by Riley & Cal.

It won’t be p13 which seems to be some wet soapy wet dream you tiger fans have had for weeks.

Misread your post. I never said we'll get 13. In fact I've said it's no chance.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

LOL Both of the Pies & Blues offers for #13 are pretty crap if you have a close look at it

Pies want #13 for F1 + Noble but also want gold cost to throw in #23
so they want #23 for Noble and straight trade #13 for F1
#13 is worth way more than the pies F1 as they are in the same range in a worse draft

Blues offering F1 for #13 their F1 will be around #18

If Richmond get 2 F2 picks that could be worth more points than the above 2

Pies will need to give more than Noble and F1 for what they want. Depends how bad they want Houston.

A first can be turned in more points next year though, suspect the Suns would prefer to have a 2025 first in the deal. Might even get lucky and Collingwood stink it up next year.

 

[stavro#4]

LOL Both of the Pies & Blues offers for #13 are pretty crap if you have a close look at it

Pies want #13 for F1 + Noble but also want gold cost to throw in #23
so they want #23 for Noble and straight trade #13 for F1
#13 is worth way more than the pies F1 as they are in the same range in a worse draft

Blues offering F1 for #13 their F1 will be around #18

If Richmond get 2 F2 picks that could be worth more points than the above 2

They don’t need future seconds mate.

If you want to talk about your draft hand.

I can see you trading 6+ something (14?) for Norths pick 2

And landing Brisbanes pick 20.

Would give you 1+2+10+18+20

 

[LukeParkerno1]

The Blues are offering F1 + F2 for 13, that beats any 2 F2 combo you could make.

Depends what GC's academy situation is next year. Lets assume the Blues are top 4, I always say assume the worst okay. Is pick 13 in a significantly better draft (this season) worth lets say pick 14 +pick 35 ish. Still think its pretty average and GC should be able to get significantly more.

This should be an easy trade pick 6 plus some swaps along the line

 

[THE_GUN]

Pies will need to give more than Noble and F1 for what they want. Depends how bad they want Houston.

A first can be turned in more points next year though, suspect the Suns would prefer to have a 2025 first in the deal. Might even get lucky and Collingwood stink it up next year.

Pies really dont have anything else to give if they trade F1

Noble & F1 for #13 is the best deal they can offer but they want #23 as well as #13 which makes that a crap trade for GC
Blues really are the worst of the trades they will finish top 4 and possibly top 2 with houston so their pick could be similar to Brisbane / Sydney picks this year around #19/#20

But the word Future 1st rounder sounds good
Best option for GC would be North's F1

 

[THE_GUN]

They don’t need future seconds mate.

WHY ?

GC need any futures that make up their academy points in 2025

 

[dean33]

They don’t need future seconds mate.

If you want to talk about your draft hand.

I can see you trading 6+ something (14?) for Norths pick 2

And landing Brisbanes pick 20.

Would give you 1+2+10+18+20

They can have 6 plus brisbanes first for 2. 6 and 14 not worth it when realistically we may get the same player at 6 as we could at 2.

 

[stavro#4]

WHY ?

GC need any futures that make up their academy points in 2025

Because under the DVI changes for next year your second rounders starting at #19 begin with 150 points below this years equivalent pick.

So your p25 + p32 next year would only be worth roughly p16. This year it would be roughly p12.

They can trade with the pies land picks and noble.

 

[stavro#4]

They can have 6 plus brisbanes first for 2. 6 and 14 not worth it when realistically we may get the same player at 6 as we could at 2.

Semantics for me mate.

but yeah I think you’ll have 1+2. Fos and Lalor

 

[My_Username]

They don’t need future seconds mate.

Next year looks like we'll get a decent haul from the academy, so whatever future picks we get will mostly be all about the points.

2 low F2s could well be better than a late F1 & late F2 (which is what you'd have to consider the Carlton offer to be).

 

[stavro#4]

Next year looks like we'll get a decent haul from the academy, so whatever future picks we get will mostly be all about the points.

2 low F2s could well be better than a late F1 & late F2 (which is what you'd have to consider the Carlton offer to be).

And it seems the pies are going to ensure you get some picks.

The conversation is about why Richmond would be better to trade with re Pick 13.

They aren’t.

 

[richoatthedisco]

They don’t need future seconds mate.

If you want to talk about your draft hand.

I can see you trading 6+ something (14?) for Norths pick 2

And landing Brisbanes pick 20.

Would give you 1+2+10+18+20

Agree, except you forgot pick 11.

 

[stavro#4]

Agree, except you forgot pick 11.

Nah I gave you 18

 

[richoatthedisco]

Nah I gave you 18

Yeah, I know. You forgot to give us 11.

 

[My_Username]

And it seems the pies are going to ensure you get some picks.

The conversation is about why Richmond would be better to trade with re Pick 13.

They aren’t.

Pies opening offer was apparently 13,23 &29 for Noble and their F1. Sure, it's just an opening bid, but it's in the laughably bad territory.

What I'm just saying is that we don't really care about if it's a F1 or not. (unless it's likely to be high enough that we can break it down further)

We care about maximising the points, and 2 low F2s could be more points than a high F1/F2 combo.

Don't really care which club can give us those points. As far as I'm concerned, 13 is a straight up auction.

 

[Daka]

Rioli is a good player, but I cant believe GCS are considering giving up pick #6 for him. If they do you'd hope they get something back from Richmond.

You obviously don't understand, how trade period works then. he is under contract for 3 more years & coming off a B&F value could not be higher at the moment.

Another reason is Suns are getting quality academy players for packets of chips, so they don't really need the high-end picks. to get their players through the door that they want ready-made players to come in & impact.

 

[THE_GUN]

Because under the DVI changes for next year your second rounders starting at #19 begin with 150 points below this years equivalent pick.

So your p25 + p32 next year would only be worth roughly p16. This year it would be roughly p12.

They can trade with the pies land picks and noble.

Pies dont have picks to give
They actually want picks in this year along with #13

 

[GCS in 11]

Depends what GC's academy situation is next year. Lets assume the Blues are top 4, I always say assume the worst okay. Is pick 13 in a significantly better draft (this season) worth lets say pick 14 +pick 35 ish. Still think its pretty average and GC should be able to get significantly more.

This should be an easy trade pick 6 plus some swaps along the line

We’ve got a big academy year next year with Zeke potentially being a top 3 pick and other potential 1st rounders. With the change in points 2nd rounders just aren’t as viable now, you won’t really see us trade down the draft anymore from next year.

Carlton’s F1 could be 18 but it could also be 10-13 and so we’d pick up that F2 for free. The more first rounders we can stockpile for points and also trade targets next year, the better.