And he was probably the highest rated of them all. Just couldn't get his ankles right which affected his running technique which placed undue stress on his back and hamstrings.
Oh, what could have been.
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And he was probably the highest rated of them all. Just couldn't get his ankles right which affected his running technique which placed undue stress on his back and hamstrings.
Oh, what could have been.
Aker - when he isn't sticking pins in his Bulldogs voodoo doll - is often spot on in areas most of the other "experts" don't even consider.
Oh, and he has been right on the Bulldogs.
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Anyone see AFL360 tonight? Whatt an arrogant arseclown King is. Refused to take anything from last Friday and continued to go on about how we wouldn't win on Friday and even if we did we wouldn't beat either Collingwood or Hawthorn in the Grand Final. Still bitter about 94 Dave?
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Of course he's not going to. That's what people in the media do - dig their heels in and refuse to admit defeat until they are presented with no other choice.
No, he thought we would win. Not because of anything about Geelong, but because it was a mistake to rest players as Hawthorn had done.
Regarding the bit in bold, strange call by King considering we've beaten both teams twice this year.
Man I would LOVE to face Hawthorn in the GF again..... I know the players wouldn't be thinking it, but redemption would be fantastic!!
Unfortunately there is a big black and white speed hump that's probably going to get in the way this year....
Unfortunately there is a big black and white speed hump that's probably going to get in the way this year....
McClure conceded we are a good chance.
Are there any other holdouts other than King? What is Bartlett saying now? Dermie? After Friday's game?
Has Tim from Carlton been speaking about Geelong lately?
Are there any other holdouts other than King? What is Bartlett saying now? Dermie? After Friday's game?
Has Tim from Carlton been speaking about Geelong lately?
Tim Lane, predicting our fall:
He must be David's speech writer lol
He must be David's speech writer lol
Timbo's silence about the Cats this season has been absolutely deafening.
I remember Huddo goading him to have a word about his pre-season prediction of disaster for the hoops when we had sewn up the hard-fought win against the Swannies at the SCG early in the season. Timmy chose to gulp at thin air rather than admit he could be mistaken.
Shame he couldn't have kept his gob shut late last season when he hurtled into his sage prediction that 'the days of domination were over'. During a game against a purported flag contender that we went on to win by over 100 points.
He would have been able to give his wise words another airing early last Friday night when the Pies kicked the first four. And once again would have seen the Cats go on to beat another top four rival by the length of the street.
Still, Timbo must feel vindicated about the Cats vicious descent into footy oblivion.
After all, we couldn't beat the Pies by over 100.
I remember Huddo goading him to have a word about his pre-season prediction of disaster for the hoops when we had sewn up the hard-fought win against the Swannies at the SCG early in the season. Timmy chose to gulp at thin air rather than admit he could be mistaken.
Shame he couldn't have kept his gob shut late last season when he hurtled into his sage prediction that 'the days of domination were over'. During a game against a purported flag contender that we went on to win by over 100 points.
He would have been able to give his wise words another airing early last Friday night when the Pies kicked the first four. And once again would have seen the Cats go on to beat another top four rival by the length of the street.
Still, Timbo must feel vindicated about the Cats vicious descent into footy oblivion.
After all, we couldn't beat the Pies by over 100.
We've been missing Ablett since Round 1. You don't lose the best player in the competition without it affecting you in some way. The more mindless fans enjoy insinuating that we're somehow better off, but it's garbage. Kill to still have him in the team.
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I loved how Whately just let King go on and on too on AFL360, give him enough rope Gerard...
Despite his bias against us I had been prepared to rate him but last night was quite extraordinary. Rather than respond to the good natured goading he let his ego take over and he did the "my bat , my ball I'm off" impression. Wasn't prepared to discuss anything , just spat the dummy and added to the list of Teams we can't beat.
Going to be so sweet to wipe that smirk off his face.
Going to be so sweet to wipe that smirk off his face.
In fairness, I don't see myself as mindless and I think we ARE better off without him. That doesn't mean he's not the best player in the league, but so much energy is required to set him free. We are a better TEAM without him.
Let's face it, we are in much better shape going into these finals than last year.
I'd have him back in a heartbeat if he was prepared to sacrifice some aspects of his game for the good of the team, but he wouldn't.
Look how he spat the dummy last year when he was asked to play in the F50!
Behaved like a child...
Nope. The way he was developing in 2010, he either needed a change of club, or a giant foot up the backside by the incoming coach. And I'm not sure Scott would have been up to it. We may have had another season ending with the star and coach not talking.
Personally, I think the change has done both a world of good.
Until we win a premiership, we're not. Simple as that.
I still think he cops way too much flak about his supposed petulance last year. Fact is he was still our best midfielder AND kicked 44 goals. There was only one person out of him and Thompson who let their rift (entirely Thompson's doing) affect their performance, and it wasn't Ablett. Much as people might like to believe otherwise.
We might be in better shape this September, but that's due to a myriad of reasons. Not just Ablett not being here. Far too simplistic and wildly inaccurate. I could immediately think of:
- Improved fitness of Ottens and Corey
- Selection of Menzel, Duncan and Christensen (Thompson wouldn't pick them for the finals, that sure as hell wasn't Ablett's doing)
- Rapid improvement in Trent West, meaning we now have 2 genuine ruckmen
Anyway we'll see if it makes any difference tomorrow night.
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I don't think he really had a smirk. Last night he just look like a bully who had been outsmarted, he had a face like a smacked arse.
Thats it Partridge.
I think with the Scott game plan he may have had to sacrifice some posessions and be more accountable, but what team wouldnt want a player that can win a game off his own boot?!
The fact that our players had to block opposition for him and therefore they are free to play their own game is a debatable one.
You have to remember that often Ablett had to beat 2 sometimes 3 players at the contest and usually drew the number 1 tagger as well so needed assistance to be freed up.
From what I have seen different this year is the fact that scott isnt having our guys block taggers from whoever they are chasing, and as a result it means some of our stars have had quiet games, but then the others havent and have made up for it whereas last year they would have been assisting in blocking the tagger instead of just going for the ball.
Ablett would have had a quiet - by his standards - year this year if he was still with us, but by anyone elses standards it would have been a cracker!!
Remembering Ablett did get a few soft posessions but he did his best work when he was getting the hard ball and he usually didnt have blockers there!!
I think with the Scott game plan he may have had to sacrifice some posessions and be more accountable, but what team wouldnt want a player that can win a game off his own boot?!
The fact that our players had to block opposition for him and therefore they are free to play their own game is a debatable one.
You have to remember that often Ablett had to beat 2 sometimes 3 players at the contest and usually drew the number 1 tagger as well so needed assistance to be freed up.
From what I have seen different this year is the fact that scott isnt having our guys block taggers from whoever they are chasing, and as a result it means some of our stars have had quiet games, but then the others havent and have made up for it whereas last year they would have been assisting in blocking the tagger instead of just going for the ball.
Ablett would have had a quiet - by his standards - year this year if he was still with us, but by anyone elses standards it would have been a cracker!!
Remembering Ablett did get a few soft posessions but he did his best work when he was getting the hard ball and he usually didnt have blockers there!!
I agree that Ablett tried his best last year, unfortunately his best is what killed us against Collingwood. He was all over the play in the first half, but most of the play seemed to linger in our defensive half - Collingwood's press was not focused on stopping Ablett, rather on killing Geelong's chain of possession 1 or 2 links after him - meaning that his trademark short handball to another player would get that player or the one after into a position where they would be forced to turn it over. This next theory is purely my own observation and perhaps reaching a little, but I believe Thompson identified this half back roundabout play as a weakness early, and that Ablett was a major factor in it continuing - hence moving him to the forward line for large stretches of games. Ablett of course was not happy with this, as he rightly considers himself Geelong's (or anyone's) number 1 banana - so after several weeks of increasing frustration and horn-locking with Thompson, the leadership group has approached Thompson and said that they want, for the sake of team unity, Ablett back in the midfield. Thompson agrees but immediately gets on the phone to Essendon with a "I'm done here, got a job? No not the senior one, senior coaching sucks and you get shitty with everyone". Ablett goes back into the midfield (and rarely goes forward at all for the remainder of the season) and the old "attack from half-back" style is resumed, also playing right into the hands of Malthouse's forward press/roman box tactic. Ablett was gone a long time ago anyway, Thompson was gone from late H/A season (but probably had thoughts of leaving from earlier since it was known that Costa was stepping down from the board. To me, the pieces all fit.
Um! And players assuming greater responsibility. A Match Committee bold enough to experiment including giving opportunities to players not given before. Improvements to our structures and game plan. A coach who plays a pro active role on game day.
Good Call - smacked arse is about right !!
Would not have the temperament to be a Coach so it's the "Meeja" for Kingy.
Mr 'alcoholic' King still rates the Blues the best threat to Collingwood's premiership chances
Useless prick gonna have to explain why his Hawks didn't beat us as he reckon they should. I'm sure he will come up with plenty of excuses as to why we were luck to win though
and who was his opponent? from memory, it was one dane swan who went about racking up 33 possessions and 2 goals himself.
of course he would improve us this year but at what cost?
Well judging by Scotts defensive focus, imagine an Ablett that also held his opponent accountable?!
All of a sudden you have Ablett racking up 30 odd possessions and Swan getting 20.
If he was still here there is no way he would have had the free reign he did last year, he would be tackling more than he ever did and only add another feather to his cap!!
I dont think there would have been a cost at all.
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