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Isn't Blue Beetle officially the first of the new DC Universe films, so from that POV, it'll be interesting to see how it sets the tone for what's to come.

Not really it was made by the old regime. Gunn just called him the first character of the DCU because they can still use him going forward if they want to.
 

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Looks like there is a good family story as the heart of the film so Im in. Plus Im a fan of Xolo from Cobra Kai.

Yes absolutely. The tone looked bang on from the start and was very noticeable in the first trailer. I was sceptical when it was announced however many of my questions were answered when it was revealed it was going to focus on Reyes. The best choice over the options of Garret or Kord.

Setting it as a coming of age story centred on his Latino heritage and family looks an excellent choice. It just looks good. Costume design bang on. Casting seems spot on. Representation matters. The voice of Khaji Da is a nice touch as well.

So many boardroom issues and suits making such decisions over the years have huge ramifications for all of the artists involved in this films. Batgirl being canned for example - water off a duck’s back for the likes of Michael Keaton (how much I would’ve loved to see more of him, same with Brendan Fraser as Firefly). However for up and coming actors like Leslie Grace, these are careers and livelihoods that get impacted.

I just hope Blue Beetle doesn’t sink or is tarnished from being affiliated with the DCEU. Would suck for all concerned. I’ll be there day 1 of course however The Flash’s box office has demonstrated the general public’s enthusiasm for the now defunct universe.
 
I guess we have to see the extent of their roles but the fact we are getting a green lantern and hawk girl in the film does make me wonder wtf the plot is gonna be.

Also Nathan Fillion was in the suicide squad now he is in a different role but makes it weirder to keep the peacemaker team.
 
Guy Gardner in James Gunn’s hands has me intrigued. Im not going to draw any conclusions on their inclusion however as it’s way too early to speculate on their level of involvement in the film.
 
Clearly we don't know what the film will end up like, and James Gunn has credits in the bank, but it is certainly starting to look overstuffed. And it certainly looks like there's a lot of distractions from what should be a Superman movie (The Authority, Green Lantern, Hawkgirl). Give me a more grounded movie with a singular focus, a single super-powered conceit, and once you have built up a few of these, then you can start throwing them all together. Jumping straight into a superpowered world takes me right out of it.
 
Isn't Blue Beetle officially the first of the new DC Universe films, so from that POV, it'll be interesting to see how it sets the tone for what's to come.
He said BB is the first DCU character but Superman Legacy is the first DCU film, thereby muddying the waters even more than before.

I think it’s just a throw away line to keep interest in the film from totally tanking. If it’s a hit you might see him again but I bet it’s memory holed if it flops.

I think the announcement of a total reboot will come after Aquaman.
 
I think it’s just a throw away line to keep interest in the film from totally tanking. If it’s a hit you might see him again but I bet it’s memory holed if it flops.

I think the announcement of a total reboot will come after Aquaman.

It is a throwaway line, but it's not a total reboot as we still have Peacemaker Season 2 coming out after Superman. Just more muddy waters as it's ultimately part of two 'universes' now.

Clearly we don't know what the film will end up like, and James Gunn has credits in the bank, but it is certainly starting to look overstuffed. And it certainly looks like there's a lot of distractions from what should be a Superman movie (The Authority, Green Lantern, Hawkgirl). Give me a more grounded movie with a singular focus, a single super-powered conceit, and once you have built up a few of these, then you can start throwing them all together. Jumping straight into a superpowered world takes me right out of it.

Totally agree. Geez, even Man of Steel was self contained.

This seems really odd, especially considering Gunn's decisions and track record.

Not only repeating mistakes but doing them a lot earlier.

I have to say, seeing Jennifer Holland in GoTG took me out of the movie a bit (and she was in probably the weakest part of the film also).
 
It is a throwaway line, but it's not a total reboot as we still have Peacemaker Season 2 coming out after Superman. Just more muddy waters as it's ultimately part of two 'universes' now.
I think it’s heading to total reboot despite what they say, as much because now they will want to distance themselves from the DCEU as much as possible after the Shazam/Flash debacle.

Might carry over a few of the same cast, but Fillion at the very least has a new role and I wouldn’t be surprised if one or two touted projects are cancelled or if Peacemaker gets an Elseworlds label and connections to even the DCEU are muted or removed.
 
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Sounds easy to say now, if only they’d released Flash, Aquaman 2 etc last year as planned (which would have its own set of challenges with the Amber Heard/Ezra stuff playing out in public). Or delayed the new universe announcements under Gunn/Safran. Doing it this half assed way has really caused a number of problems, questions and just general enthusiasm dwindling.

Which is a shame. I maintain The Flash is very very good and that’s not reflected in its earnings so far.
 
Sounds easy to say now, if only they’d released Flash, Aquaman 2 etc last year as planned (which would have its own set of challenges with the Amber Heard/Ezra stuff playing out in public). Or delayed the new universe announcements under Gunn/Safran. Doing it this half assed way has really caused a number of problems, questions and just general enthusiasm dwindling.

Which is a shame. I maintain The Flash is very very good and that’s not reflected in its earnings so far.
One of the biggest own goals I can think of from a movie studio.

In trying to prop up interest in the current films (which has failed) they risk tarring the new films with the same brush.

And it’s not actually that hard to bring a movie forward if it’s complete either. They have kept tinkering with them and dragged it out.

If they’d got AM2 out late last year they could have made a clean break as soon as it was out of theatres and given everyone two years to get excited.
 
Watched Black Adam last night.

I had no prior knowledge of the character - I don't know whether that was good or bad tbh.

It was an improvement on some of the DC movies in recent times but also wasn't spectacular by any stretch.

The complexity of the hero/anti hero was at least different.

I assume that's the last time we see Cavill as Superman? Still sad about that, he's been great.
 
Watched Black Adam last night.

I had no prior knowledge of the character - I don't know whether that was good or bad tbh.

It was an improvement on some of the DC movies in recent times but also wasn't spectacular by any stretch.

The complexity of the hero/anti hero was at least different.

I assume that's the last time we see Cavill as Superman? Still sad about that, he's been great.
I think one of the major issues with BA (and there were alot) was that The Rock couldnt muster an ounce of his once famous WWE/WWF heel energy.

He was always a hero and was always going to be a hero the "anti hero" thing never really came through to me.
 
I think one of the major issues with BA (and there were alot) was that The Rock couldnt muster an ounce of his once famous WWE/WWF heel energy.

He was always a hero and was always going to be a hero the "anti hero" thing never really came through to me.
I really struggle with him as an actor, I just don't think he's a very good one. Detracted from the movie for me.

I guess that could be said for this specific movie. He seemed to come across that way specifically to the Khandaq region, he clearly didn't care to protect the rest of earth.

I don't think it was good enough for a sequel, as a standalone it just didn't really do much for me.
 
I don't mind The Rock as a character (he's clearly not a thespian), but felt they put too much effort into Black Adam being awesome and cool at every opportunity. He never felt vulnerable or at risk. That said, the 'twist' about his character's origin was probably the best part of the movie.
 
I don't mind The Rock as a character (he's clearly not a thespian), but felt they put too much effort into Black Adam being awesome and cool at every opportunity. He never felt vulnerable or at risk. That said, the 'twist' about his character's origin was probably the best part of the movie.
Very valid point. Never once felt like he could possibly lose/be contained.
 
Pretty sure the Rock has it in his contract that he can't lose or look weak so not surprised there was no real risk.
Pretty sure that was just the fast franchise contracts and he only really did it after Vin did.

He had some movies early on in his career where he let it happen (Walking Tall, Welcome to the Jungle).
 
I really struggle with him as an actor, I just don't think he's a very good one. Detracted from the movie for me.

I guess that could be said for this specific movie. He seemed to come across that way specifically to the Khandaq region, he clearly didn't care to protect the rest of earth.

I don't think it was good enough for a sequel, as a standalone it just didn't really do much for me.

Which is part of the problem, the film was clearly conceived to set up the sequel. Possibly two. The Rock was trying to fill a power vacuum at WB/DC Films and wanted to have separate films where he clashes with Shazam first. And then eventually leading into a Superman film, which would have followed the proposed Cavill Man of Steel sequel which was announced and then canned a month later.

One day there’s going to be a Netflix style mini series. “What the **** happened at DC Studios: 2013 to 2023”.
 

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