Demetriou says lay off Goodes

[Bayer_]

I suppose the concern is that a particular approach may lead to the non aboriginal population choosing to put the issue on ignore.

This is my point. Goodes is entitled to be offended. But he's not solving any problems with his current approach. But apparently that's too hard to handle for his admirers.

 

[Number37]

Pretty harsh on Goodes to compare him to the psychopath Mandela.
Now Goodes is a flog but he isn't malicious torturer and communist militant terrorist, perfectly happy with his militant wife wrapping tires around peoples necks and setting them on fire.
Interesting bloke Mandela, managed to shrink about 6 inches in prison and come out quite literally a different man...gee I wonder what would of happened if it was learned Mandela became a Martyr for the cause in prison. Might want to replace him with someone peace loving and release them and set them up in the top job.



Oh please, perceived persecution and fear is the only thing that keeps a culture alive.
No person anywhere can say anything about anything at all without being a racist.

Does pretending your not parochial/nationalist yet attacking people for not thinking like you make sense? No, but that's what people with your mentality do, hypocritical as it gets.

No person anywhere can have any sort of preference toward anything meaningful at all and not be a racist as anything and everything has a cultural leaning derived from an ethnic background or economical status and tiptoeing around things is the bullshit we see in media everywhere as you can't tell it as it is there as it's run by the crazies, because the crazies are the ones that complain the loudest.
People who think like you live in a complete disconnected denial of their own reality.
You cannot pretend to have no cultural preference. One is either an ignorant oblivious liar and a racist or just a racist. Take your pick, there is no neutral person in the world that is not 6 foot under and even then their corpse still possesses various compounds constructed of charge.

Thankfully sane people are starting to stand up against the assassinations those with the nonsensical goal of cultural genocide through sterilization using the weapon of strawman political thuggery as if being racist is something to be concerned about, it's just a useless word used to demonize people who have just as well been on the receiving end of thuggery for whatever reason the attacker saw fit but has not thrown it all into the one insecurity and tied everything to racial identity.

If you want simpleton that is anyone who acts with destructive insanity towards anyone that they apply a distancing label upon like racist.
This is a disease dis-associative elitism. Stop believing you are aware, that's a delusion racism is not at all evil, evil is ignorance of order that it is live backwards should make that apparent.
People believing they are so progressive still live in the same conceptual paradigms of old except at the time that made sense as the gods were right there, they lived in the heavens/sky, they were the planets and stars and actively played part in peoples lives as they did wield lightning bolts as lightning traverses radiantly from sun to planet and a massive array of continuous discharge looks like a beard, thus bearded god that died for us when we entered this solar system. Why does that have to do with this? Because it's yet another arrogant stance we have towards yesterday that we condescend to in our blind assumed superiority based on nothing.

We are all ridiculously blind to what's really going on because we all just throw our own personal garbage up in front of our perspective and act like it's something external that has to be fixed and someone else has to do it.
It's a socialist mentality, that of the enslaved mind through victim-hood in person or by proxy identification.
That my party has been wronged so your party is expected that it should fix it, that my party is in my perception right so you should be convinced and take on my artificial belief system because I have condescendingly decreed so by my elitist perception as your king.
Why? That sounds like ignorance of natural order to me, in reality the "wronged" party has been wronged by their own lack of responsibility to their own self and another person will never be able to validate a being of will to their satisfaction when they won't accept their own lot in happiness coming from self determination not expectation of others as everything in this world is self referencing as a matter of necessity to retain charge, this is the reason we communicate, to try and extend our self into another so as to sustain our self, this is nature and not to honor reality is ignorant of it.

Still your right your dad could probably beat up my dad.

And for ******* real get the slightest bit of a history lesson people in this thread, black people sold black people into slavery, economics, agricultural success and wars brought about slavery everywhere and it was not racially discriminating, but socially discriminating just as the equalized low wage slavery we have today is, just we have a divide and conquer shock jock "artist" crowd who think they are doing vital work.
I guess the people here watch their race baiting movies....yeah, slow learners? progressives might want to learn about bolshevism, if you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground it might help you figure out why people with sense are "slow learners" because you have nothing to teach but meaningless genocidal ideology of assimilation into the corporate machine. The meat grinder thanks you for your passionate misguided support.

Beyond that how do we not have slavery now? delusion....

I will be so bold as to suggest you know bugger all about Mandela.
I would further suggest you go and read his testimony from his trial.

The rest of your rant is straight from the John Howard play book. Wasn't me, happened a long time ago, get over it.
The problem does not lie with Indigenous people, they have been oppressed simply for being Indigenous since 'white' man landed on these shores.
The problem lies squarely with those 'white' people that think the world revolves around them. Those same 'white' people have an unending desire to assert their superiority by demonising others.
It is no longer acceptable to be overtly racist against Indigenous people so they find a new target, 20 years ago it was the Japanese buying up the whole Gold Coast, today it is those evil asylum seekers. Tomorrow it will be yet another 'war on terror' against Islam.
We good you bad, us against them.

 

[illavitar]

Demetriou's still alive???

I thought he tied of asphyxiation choking on James Packer's ****

 

[FuManchu]

I will be so bold as to suggest you know bugger all about Mandela.
I would further suggest you go and read his testimony from his trial.

The rest of your rant is straight from the John Howard play book. Wasn't me, happened a long time ago, get over it.
The problem does not lie with Indigenous people, they have been oppressed simply for being Indigenous since 'white' man landed on these shores.
The problem lies squarely with those 'white' people that think the world revolves around them. Those same 'white' people have an unending desire to assert their superiority by demonising others.
It is no longer acceptable to be overtly racist against Indigenous people so they find a new target, 20 years ago it was the Japanese buying up the whole Gold Coast, today it is those evil asylum seekers. Tomorrow it will be yet another 'war on terror' against Islam.
We good you bad, us against them.

this is almost as funny as the quoted post.

lols

 

[Number37]

That's interesting. So even in spite of my family history, I'm a racist because I don't particularly have a liking for Goodes.

What do you make of my happiness when watching Leon Davis? Whom I rank in the top 3 Collingwood players I've seen play?

Forgive me for being sceptical about your all too convenient Indigenous heritage.
The level of Goodes hate is massively disproportionate to any of his perceived shortcomings as a footballer or human being.
It is completely irrational to have that level of hate for Goodes given what you want to charge him with.
It is no coincidence that racism is an equally irrational human emotion.

 

[FuManchu]

Forgive me for being sceptical about your all too convenient Indigenous heritage.
The level of Goodes hate is massively disproportionate to any of his perceived shortcomings as a footballer or human being.
It is completely irrational to have that level of hate for Goodes given what you want to charge him with.
It is no coincidence that racism is an equally irrational human emotion.

Not sure it's convenient because I don't really think about it. I dare say there are a whole generation of Australians running around with indigenous blood that don't really identify with it.

But I guess you've found a way to be a professional victim because it suits your personality. You feel the need to be angry about something and see the injustice in everything.

And personality is the issue here. Goodes annoys me much the same way McGuire and Brayshaw and Taylor annoy me. Big noises looking for an audience.

 

[Power Raid]

This is my point. Goodes is entitled to be offended. But he's not solving any problems with his current approach. But apparently that's too hard to handle for his admirers.

yep but at the same time, Goodes should show courage and strength to not be bothered by racism (not to be confused with ignoring). Racism only has power if people respond emotionally negatively to it.

 

[Number37]

Not sure it's convenient because I don't really think about it. I dare say there are a whole generation of Australians running around with indigenous blood that don't really identify with it.

But I guess you've found a way to be a professional victim because it suits your personality. You feel the need to be angry about something and see the injustice in everything.

And personality is the issue here. Goodes annoys me much the same way McGuire and Brayshaw and Taylor annoy me. Big noises looking for an audience.

According to you, my standing up against racism is about me being a 'professional victim' or being angry about 'injustices' that aren't there.
Conveniently it saves you the trouble of having to confront the actual issue, doesn't it.

 

[Sir Priddis]

Your level of hate for Goodes can only be explained by racism.
Like the rest of the BF hate brigade.

You can't be serious...

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Goodes is not hated or booed for his race.

Hes booed because of his personality and lately because of his staging.

Yep. Comes across as a **** of a bloke and a media whore. Like Harry O/L.

 

[FuManchu]

According to you, my standing up against racism is about me being a 'professional victim' or being angry about 'injustices' that aren't there.
Conveniently it saves you the trouble of having to confront the actual issue, doesn't it.

What is there to confront?

He heard something he didn't like, he reacted. I don't have an issue how he reacted with the girl.

You cant legislate against people thoughts, and he has the right to protest what they say and think.

what else can he do?

 

[Power Raid]

According to you, my standing up against racism is about me being a 'professional victim' or being angry about 'injustices' that aren't there.
Conveniently it saves you the trouble of having to confront the actual issue, doesn't it.

hear hear

 

[JackOutback]

The level of Goodes hate is massively disproportionate to any of his perceived shortcomings as a footballer or human being.

This...I can't help but feel there is a racial element, unconscious or otherwise, to much of the Goodes hate. He's an out-and-out champion footballer and someone who's trying to make a difference for his people/culture. I've yet to be convinced that his occasional poor acts on the field have been enough to generate the kind of hatred we see on Big Footy.

 

[Partridge]

This...I can't help but feel there is a racial element, unconscious or otherwise, to much of the Goodes hate. He's an out-and-out champion footballer and someone who's trying to make a difference for his people/culture. I've yet to be convinced that his occasional poor acts on the field have been enough to generate the kind of hatred we see on Big Footy.

Disagree with this part. I think it's mainly, massively due to a lot of people perceiving him as a self-important self-righteous tosser. He would have the market cornered but O'Brien got there first.

It's time people starting getting this concept too - there is NO SUCH THING as race. Different cultures, yes. Different races, no.

 

[gutsroy]

Hooley dooley, that is a tad unhinged. Always wondered where that picture came from.

 

[Number37]

Disagree with this part. I think it's mainly, massively due to a lot of people perceiving him as a self-important self-righteous tosser. He would have the market cornered but O'Brien got there first.

It's time people starting getting this concept too - there is NO SUCH THING as race. Different cultures, yes. Different races, no.

The only self righteous tossers are the ones that want to cry when they get called out for the simpletons that they are.

At what point does it sink in...racial abuse is NOT acceptable, EVER.
Shut your mouth and keep your stupid thoughts to yourself if you want to be racist.

 

[JackOutback]

Disagree with this part. I think it's mainly, massively due to a lot of people perceiving him as a self-important self-righteous tosser. He would have the market cornered but O'Brien got there first.

It's time people starting getting this concept too - there is NO SUCH THING as race. Different cultures, yes. Different races, no.

The point of my post is that regardless of his flaws (including whether one thinks he's a self-righteous tosser), the level of hate far exceeds that which is warranted. Hence why I think there must be a racial aspect to a lot of it.

As for the second part of your post, that's nonsense, unless you plan to get into some sort of semantic argument that isn't recognised by most people or societies.

 

[Partridge]

The only self righteous tossers are the ones that want to cry when they get called out for the simpletons that they are.

At what point does it sink in...racial abuse is NOT acceptable, EVER.
Shut your mouth and keep your stupid thoughts to yourself if you want to be racist.

Just before I hit the report button - is that me you're directing those charming (and presumptuous) remarks to?

 

[Partridge]

The point of my post is that regardless of his flaws (including whether one thinks he's a self-righteous tosser), the level of hate far exceeds that which is warranted. Hence why I think there must be a racial aspect to a lot of it.

As for the second part of your post, that's nonsense, unless you plan to get into some sort of semantic argument that isn't recognised by most people or societies.

Biologists recognise it. They know more about that subject than anyone else. There simply isn't enough diversity in the species to classify different 'races'. It's a foolish concept unfortunately invented centuries ago. Hopefully soon we can consign it to history.

 

[Number37]

Just before I hit the report button - is that me you're directing those charming (and presumptuous) remarks to?

I would have thought the qualifier 'if you want to be racist' makes it clear to whom my remarks are directed at.

 

[Partridge]

I would have thought the qualifier 'if you want to be racist' makes it clear to whom my remarks are directed at.

Yeah. Well I don't. And never condoned it in any fecking way.

 

[Number37]

Biologists recognise it. They know more about that subject than anyone else. There simply isn't enough diversity in the species to classify different 'races'. It's a foolish concept unfortunately invented centuries ago. Hopefully soon we can consign it to history.

Racial abuse is not based on scientific fact. It is about differentiating one from another. The racists don't care what that 'something different' is, as long as they can use it as a wedge to assert their self proclaimed superiority.

 

[Partridge]

Racial abuse is not based on scientific fact. It is about differentiating one from another. The racists don't care what that 'something different' is, as long as they can use it as a wedge to assert their self proclaimed superiority.

You'd think though that anyone dumb enough to be a racist would struggle with any kind of scientific fact. They're generally not the most intelligent folk around, which make their biases and preconceptions even more ludicrous.

 

[romeoh]

yep but at the same time, Goodes should show courage and strength to not be bothered by racism (not to be confused with ignoring). Racism only has power if people respond emotionally negatively to it.

u cannot be cereal.

 

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