Did the pies just play their GF?

[Righteo]

Geelong for the flag, oh please god make it happen, the alternatives.....I can't even bear thinking about it.

 

[go team]

This is really beginning to reek of Essendon 2001..

Dons in 01 played a very different prelim I reckon - got the jump and were in front all day, before seeeing off a late Hawks challenge. Plus they smashed the Tigers earlier in the finals.

Pies have struggled for quite a few weeks now, but just scrapped through. Reminding me more of the Lions in 03 or 04 to be honest. Will be interesting to see how they go when it counts - will be an impressive victory if they (can) step it up a gear next week.

 

[rose jam]

it's all coming back suckas, can you handle it!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMUG1LHAa-M

 

[KissStephanie]

Will be very interesting to see how they go next week. A lot of the Collingwood players looked sore and out of touch. Their will be huge question marks over both Reid and Jolly for next week. If Jolly doesn't come up either combination of opponents rucks will have a massive advantage over the pies. Then you have Malthouse crying after the game. Could be proven very wrong, but it will be very hard for the pies to back up after that game.

Yes, and next week will be like the Grand Final Replay! It was the perfect hit out following the bye, and there is absolutely no doubt that nothing less than victory next week will satisfy the team of course because of the experience of winning the premiership last year. Save this theory for teams that don't have Grand Final or premiership experience.

 

[Doss]

I've got the utmost respect for Collingwood, but I really can't believe some people are trying to explain away last night with them being in "self preservation mode". If that is really the case, well it was at the very least a very stupid mindset to have, it was a cut-throat preliminary final afterall. Collingwood very nearly lost and if Hawthorn had converted their chances, they WOULD have lost.

No, they weren't in self preservation mode, they just aren't in great form. They could come out and smash Geelong or West Coast next week and it still wouldn't change the fact that Collingwood, by all rights, should have lost against Hawthorn and only didn't because the Hawks couldn't bury them when they had their foot on the throat.

 

[ipswichpies]

On current form the pies will not beat Geelong.

If Collingwood can rediscover their best form they can win it.

Big if right now.

This I suspect may be true and is a fair asessment of where we are at the moment but if it clicks we are a chance and as we showed in the final qtr yesterday we wont go down without a fight.

Ps we play our gf this week as will our opponents who they may be.

 

[HFF]

Who knows? Would the Hawks have played their GF if they got up?

For sure- we are hurting and we are sore but there is only one game to get through now and historically players fit, injured or indifferent always find the steel to get themselves up and leave nothing in the tank.

The best team will win on the day- that never changes.

 

[dook]

Will be very interesting to see how they go next week. A lot of the Collingwood players looked sore and out of touch. Their will be huge question marks over both Reid and Jolly for next week. If Jolly doesn't come up either combination of opponents rucks will have a massive advantage over the pies. Then you have Malthouse crying after the game. Could be proven very wrong, but it will be very hard for the pies to back up after that game.

Keep wishing that mate. I sense the fear in you...

 

[AsianWithAFro]

People are already jumping to conclusions. If it is tight game today, than you could say that both teams are on an even playing field.

 

[rose jam]

Looked like we had pretty good touch in the last quarter, you'd think that'll carry through to next week, it generally does

 

[thebarry111]

Yep. So if the pies are playing so poorly, yet still winning, then how bad is the opposition? some people just don't understand...

Yeah. Another 17 goals and you would have snuck past the cats as well.

A 96 point loss isn't really good form however you paint it.

 

[ScoobySnacks]

This is really beginning to reek of Essendon 2001..

So true. Too many key players not in good touch at the right time, gifted a close prelim final win by woeful umpiring. The similarities are scary.

 

[Chief Ten Beers]

Think the Cats will have this one in the bag and Collingwood for 2012. I thought this at the beginning of the year as well. Pretty early I know, but a lot of things haven't been going well in terms of managing the list. All the signs are there.

But a credit to the Pies, they don't seem to give up....well except for when last playing Geelong.

Hoping for a West Coast win today.

gifted a close prelim final win by woeful umpiring. The similarities are scary.

Hawthorn couldn't play for four quarters, Collingwood only played one and a half. Nothing to do with umps...and before you accuse me of arrogance this is what Clarkson said post game.

 

[camrock]

If Geelong go through they will clearly be favoured on the basis of Collingwood's less than optimal form and injury concerns. That said, there are plenty of Pies who might reasonably be expected to improve on last night's performance, ruck contests ≠ clearances, and anybody who thinks Cam Wood is a dud needs to pay more attention to his work around the ground.

 

[Valve Bounce]

Will be very interesting to see how they go next week. A lot of the Collingwood players looked sore and out of touch. Their will be huge question marks over both Reid and Jolly for next week. If Jolly doesn't come up either combination of opponents rucks will have a massive advantage over the pies. Then you have Malthouse crying after the game. Could be proven very wrong, but it will be very hard for the pies to back up after that game.

Well, you do have a very compelling argument. If Mick cries again next week, they are done.

 

[SA HAWK]

If Geelong go through they will clearly be favoured on the basis of Collingwood's less than optimal form and injury concerns. That said, there are plenty of Pies who might reasonably be expected to improve on last night's performance, ruck contests ≠ clearances, and anybody who thinks Cam Wood is a dud needs to pay more attention to his work around the ground.

Ottens will eat him for breakfast if he plays.

 

[andypie]

They didn't even try. And I hope to **** that this shit attitude that they've taken towards the opposotion, their coach and their form players will bite them in the arse.

Catters or Eagles as ONE

What in gods name are you smoking?

 

[Sedat!]

You cant celebrate an emotional come from behind win in a prelim?

I'd be happy celebrate any type of win in a prelim

Injuries to Collingwood that are structurally key (Reid and Jolly) will have a much bigger bearing on next week than their emotional come from behind effort in the PF. I'm tippng the phrase 'hyperbaric chamber' will be getting a fearsome workout this week in the media.

 

[Sasuke]

Just to point out, i think its only one pie fan said we were in preservation mode, and thats just a joke of a comment. Most others didnt say so. I havent liked out form in the finals, but to say that, we have won. I think people have underestimated how good the hawks and eagles are. They are both champion teams who could have finished top 2 in others years with their H&A record. At the end of the day, you have to be in the gf to have a chance. As much as most people hate Collingwood, i think at some point you have to admire the efforts of players such as ball, thomas, swan and cloke to not allow their season to finish last night.

If its Geelong VS Collingwood, you have arguably the two champion teams of the past 5 years. If its Collingwood Eagles, you have the fairy tale of back to back or last to first. Either way, should be a cracker!

 

[Twenty 11 Pies]

The game you lost just happens to be against the team you are most likely to play next week.

Geelong are playing much better at the same time this year than they were last year and you are playing nowhere near where you were last year.

Not impossible for you to win next week but you will need to play better than you have for the last few months.

Agree it will take a big effort, greater skill execution and maybe a bit of luck going our way.

 

[camrock]

Ottens will eat him for breakfast if he plays.

Unquestionably true, but Wood takes big contested grabs in defence and uses the ball pretty effectively. If Collingwood get done it won't be because of the absence of Jolly.

 

[blaze036]

cant tell which is more stupid, this thread or the one about how collingwood simply cannot beat hawthorn

 

[Twenty 11 Pies]

I've got the utmost respect for Collingwood, but I really can't believe some people are trying to explain away last night with them being in "self preservation mode". If that is really the case, well it was at the very least a very stupid mindset to have, it was a cut-throat preliminary final afterall. Collingwood very nearly lost and if Hawthorn had converted their chances, they WOULD have lost.

No, they weren't in self preservation mode, they just aren't in great form. They could come out and smash Geelong or West Coast next week and it still wouldn't change the fact that Collingwood, by all rights, should have lost against Hawthorn and only didn't because the Hawks couldn't bury them when they had their foot on the throat.

They are pulling your leg!

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Just checked the results and I can confirm that Collingwood just played their PF.

The Grand Final is next Saturday afternoon if anybody is interested. They will play that, then.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Unquestionably true, but Wood takes big contested grabs in defence and uses the ball pretty effectively. If Collingwood get done it won't be because of the absence of Jolly.

Collingwoods form "slump" coincides with Jolly's return to the team from injury. We were actually playing better when he was out and Wood was our number one ruck.