Div 3 Who will it be ?

[bong pocket]

Keep hearing rumors of approaches being made to amateur clubs namely
eltham turtles, banyule, old paradians and ivanhoe by the nfl.
I can't see any of this crew wanting to come ?
With only 6 months left maybe the nfl should make a statement regarding the formation of the comp going forward.
Surely any clubs that are coming would be on board by now.
If there are no new clubs then there will surely be no div 3.
a div with 6 sides give me a break - there is only harm to be done to the brand (nfl) if that shite goes on
c'mon jarrod carey you got on here last year and made a statement how about a follow up - let all the interested parties know whats going on

 

[CENTERMAN]

Keep hearing rumors of approaches being made to amateur clubs namely
eltham turtles, banyule, old paradians and ivanhoe by the nfl.
I can't see any of this crew wanting to come ?
With only 6 months left maybe the nfl should make a statement regarding the formation of the comp going forward.
Surely any clubs that are coming would be on board by now.
If there are no new clubs then there will surely be no div 3.
a div with 6 sides give me a break - there is only harm to be done to the brand (nfl) if that shite goes on
c'mon jarrod carey you got on here last year and made a statement how about a follow up - let all the interested parties know whats going on

Hear, hear.

 

[DingDongBell]

Keep hearing rumors of approaches being made to amateur clubs namely
eltham turtles, banyule, old paradians and ivanhoe by the nfl.
I can't see any of this crew wanting to come ?
With only 6 months left maybe the nfl should make a statement regarding the formation of the comp going forward.
Surely any clubs that are coming would be on board by now.
If there are no new clubs then there will surely be no div 3.
a div with 6 sides give me a break - there is only harm to be done to the brand (nfl) if that shite goes on
c'mon jarrod carey you got on here last year and made a statement how about a follow up - let all the interested parties know whats going on

teh sound is only faint but the beat that i hear from the jungle drums is that there might not be six nfl teams to make up the div.3 in 2009. will need to get further into the jungle to see if they are true.
as for the amateur clubs moving to the nfl, i think tradition and their vast network of old boys may put a stop to that, particulary ivanhoe and old paradians who have been in that competiton for ions.

 

[Stude289]

There is a Pres meeting next week, DIV 3 is on there list, so we should know more then.

 

[jollsy]

Check out this week's Leader for details on Division 3 (www.localfooty.com.au)

 

[Fitzroy Stars]

Read in the leader that it has been COMFIRMED. And said they have not been activly searching for more clubs to join. I believe a 6 team comp is pointless, and the 6 teams who do go down will be at a huge risk of losing their better players...Poor decision by the NFL. Will be interesting to see who it will be, the only teams safe at the moment are those in the Top 6.

 

[bibi01]

"have not been activly searching for more clubs to join"

very strange decision this.
6 team comp seems pointless, you would imagine the nfl would be doing everything in their power to make it a success.

they also had a comment in the article that the NFL had not recieved any negative feedback regarding the decision.

 

[bong pocket]

Keep hearing rumors of approaches being made to amateur clubs namely
eltham turtles, banyule, old paradians and ivanhoe by the nfl.
I can't see any of this crew wanting to come ?
With only 6 months left maybe the nfl should make a statement regarding the formation of the comp going forward.
Surely any clubs that are coming would be on board by now.
If there are no new clubs then there will surely be no div 3.
a div with 6 sides give me a break - there is only harm to be done to the brand (nfl) if that shite goes on
c'mon jarrod carey you got on here last year and made a statement how about a follow up - let all the interested parties know whats going on

I AM STILL WAITING MR CAREY
Perhaps you could use some of the club funded media time on plenty valley fm for detailing your plans/thoughts on this subject rather than the pointless selections of some clowns who know little about the comp or the selected gigglings/flirtations of yourself and your media manager.
If this were to happen someone might actually listen.
Here's an idea put an online survey on your website regarding div 3 - you might even end up knowing what the people you supposedly represent want/think.

 

[underbelly]

Yarrambat, Craigieburn, Latrobe.........
just tossing some clubs up

 

[Stude289]

Yarrambat, Craigieburn, Latrobe.........
just tossing some clubs up

Yarrambat will have 19s next year and hope to build on that in years to come

 

[Joe Mama]

Possibly a side like Old Paradians or Old Eltham could be approached (I know it's a longshot, but with the cost of fuel, and the isolation of these clubs compared with the rest of the VAFA, it could happen) but apart from Ivanhoe, Banyule & La Trobe Uni., I can't think of anyone that's in the NFL's area that could be viable.

 

[Stude289]

I beleve the clubs have stoped Div three for next year.
Only 6 teams. ?????

 

[nixon9]

Possibly a side like Old Paradians or Old Eltham could be approached (I know it's a longshot, but with the cost of fuel, and the isolation of these clubs compared with the rest of the VAFA, it could happen) but apart from Ivanhoe, Banyule & La Trobe Uni., I can't think of anyone that's in the NFL's area that could be viable.

templestowe could be classed in the NFL's area? warrandyte? coburg?
and what about potential junior clubs, west lalor, lalor stars, mill park, keon park and research starting up under 19s from there 17s as yarrambat are doing and building on from there?
you could even go back 6-8 years ago and clubs like kingsbury were around... where have they gone??
fairfield football club is another who went into recess in the later 90's. be good to see these clubs running around

and to take it further, development areas such as doreen, kangaroo ground, arthurs creek.. start like parkside f.c with an under 9s and build on from there, they now have an two under 9's, one tens and one elevens. this will probably never happen as you need people to start these clubs up. but i know kangaroo ground and arthurs creek both have had clubs before.
also, in regards to clubs having to pay a certain amount of money each year to field there club in the NFL, surely they could make this cheaper for sides of div 2 and div 3, which could possibly attract clubs to start up or join from other leagues who may be financially in trouble. Not sure if this already occurs, but i doubt it does.

thrown alot of points out here, but wondering what peoples thoughts are.
cheers

 

[saj_21]

templestowe could be classed in the NFL's area? warrandyte? coburg?
and what about potential junior clubs, west lalor, lalor stars, mill park, keon park and research starting up under 19s from there 17s as yarrambat are doing and building on from there?
you could even go back 6-8 years ago and clubs like kingsbury were around... where have they gone??
fairfield football club is another who went into recess in the later 90's. be good to see these clubs running around

and to take it further, development areas such as doreen, kangaroo ground, arthurs creek.. start like parkside f.c with an under 9s and build on from there, they now have an two under 9's, one tens and one elevens. this will probably never happen as you need people to start these clubs up. but i know kangaroo ground and arthurs creek both have had clubs before.
also, in regards to clubs having to pay a certain amount of money each year to field there club in the NFL, surely they could make this cheaper for sides of div 2 and div 3, which could possibly attract clubs to start up or join from other leagues who may be financially in trouble. Not sure if this already occurs, but i doubt it does.

thrown alot of points out here, but wondering what peoples thoughts are.
cheers

Research are affliated with Lower Plenty, and all is happy there. I could not imagine research fielding an u19's team.

 

[jollsy]

I'm hearing some of the clubs are none too happy about the current proposal-- anyone heard anything about the meeting this week?

 

[BJM63]

I'm hearing some of the clubs are none too happy about the current proposal-- anyone heard anything about the meeting this week?

Apparently Resevoir & South Morang have voiced their disapproval with div 3.

 

[saj_21]

No doubt sides like Morang and possibly Mernda would be un happy with this, although these two sides will miss out on finals they have been competitive this year. Mernda knocked off watsonia last week and when lower played south morang they were more than competitive after half time.

 

[DingDongBell]

Quote:
Originally Posted by jollsy
I'm hearing some of the clubs are none too happy about the current proposal-- anyone heard anything about the meeting this week?

Apparently Resevoir & South Morang have voiced their disapproval with div 3.

there is no doubt that the clubs that are likely to finish in spots 9, 10 and 11 will be very unhappy with the drop to div.3, particularly if they have been competative, and maybe have beaten, clubs above them. so they will squeel the most to the nfl and other clubs not to implement the third division.
the stigma of dropping to div.3 will last, especially if any of the 'top' three falling down dont make it back to div.2 the following season. but on current form you would think that one of these clubs would make it back the folowing seaon.
being one match inside the drop zone south morang really have to lift their season if they want to survive. their match against stars in a couple of weeks could be critical as could their last two matches against potential finalists.

 

[WALKERTOBETTS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by jollsy
I'm hearing some of the clubs are none too happy about the current proposal-- anyone heard anything about the meeting this week?


there is no doubt that the clubs that are likely to finish in spots 9, 10 and 11 will be very unhappy with the drop to div.3, particularly if they have been competative, and maybe have beaten, clubs above them. so they will squeel the most to the nfl and other clubs not to implement the third division.
the stigma of dropping to div.3 will last, especially if any of the 'top' three falling down dont make it back to div.2 the following season. but on current form you would think that one of these clubs would make it back the folowing seaon.
being one match inside the drop zone south morang really have to lift their season if they want to survive. their match against stars in a couple of weeks could be critical as could their last two matches against potential finalists.

I think for SM it would be a good thing given they have a young side with maybe 2 years to develop, playing in divvy 3 for a year, playing in a final can only give them confidence, I’m sure with another seasons they would very equipped to take it to the next level in divvy 2 then if they are good enough or have developed enough divvy 1, but that part is up to them. I know that the stars will only get stronger each year, but some of the players commitments are else where.

 

[A Living God]

I think for SM it would be a good thing given they have a young side with maybe 2 years to develop, playing in divvy 3 for a year, playing in a final can only give them confidence, I’m sure with another seasons they would very equipped to take it to the next level in divvy 2 then if they are good enough or have developed enough divvy 1, but that part is up to them. I know that the stars will only get stronger each year, but some of the players commitments are else where.

Middle of the road clubs in division 2 without a realistic chance of winning the premership any time soon should be should be happy to go down division 3.

In the last 28 years Eltham has won 6 division 2 premerships, Monty has lost 3 division 1 grand finals. Who has been the more succesful team?

 

[spadfa]

Middle of the road clubs in division 2 without a realistic chance of winning the premership any time soon should be should be happy to go down division 3.

In the last 28 years Eltham has won 6 division 2 premerships, Monty has lost 3 division 1 grand finals. Who has been the more succesful team?

put mont in divy 2 and see how many they would win!

 

[looker]

Middle of the road clubs in division 2 without a realistic chance of winning the premership any time soon should be should be happy to go down division 3.

In the last 28 years Eltham has won 6 division 2 premerships, Monty has lost 3 division 1 grand finals. Who has been the more succesful team?

I agree. A premiership is a premiership! No matter what division, league, standard, age, location, team, or similar.

Supporters shall flock to the club during the season once it begins to succeed, and an un-forseen social atmosphere is also created.

This sets a club on a great path for the following year. This usually beings at presentation night, and continues during the pre-season.
Beyond this, results vary.

Clubs will learn how to win, and try to create a winning culture, success attitude.

As for the clubs who shall be down the bottom of the lesser division in the league, how is this different to where they are now ?

 

[saj_21]

Another point to be made is, with divi 2 only having 8 sides. A top 4 will replace a top 6, how do sides outside the top 6 at the moment feel about this. It makes it harder to make finals but none the less makes a more competitive season, with 18 rounds, everyone plays eachother twice and 4 sides 3 times (i think).

Wit a top 4 if sides play a bottom side 3 times it could make a bigger diference at the end of year as opposed to the current format.

 

[Fitzroy Stars]

Another point to be made is, with divi 2 only having 8 sides. A top 4 will replace a top 6, how do sides outside the top 6 at the moment feel about this. It makes it harder to make finals but none the less makes a more competitive season, with 18 rounds, everyone plays eachother twice and 4 sides 3 times (i think).

Wit a top 4 if sides play a bottom side 3 times it could make a bigger diference at the end of year as opposed to the current format.

Could there be a possibility of eliminating 2 rounds so that everybody plays each team twice? That makes it much fairer and teams cant really complain about the fixture.

 

[macleodboy07]

Could there be a possibility of eliminating 2 rounds so that everybody plays each team twice? That makes it much fairer and teams cant really complain about the fixture.

if u ask me the fixture is like injuries.
u cant control it and there nothing u can do to change it so its just part of the game that every club has to look at and except. if ur club gets drawn a short straw then look at it as a challenge and go out there and give it ur best.
even in the AFL the draw can be unfair and uneven (geelong dont play hawthorn till what round 20 or something like that. so why make ours 100% even if the top level dont even do that).
i hope div 3 does come in next season so it evens up the competition and lets those middle of the pack clubs have some success. it will also give clubs like west heidelberg a fighting chance to get some more sponsors if they can win a couple of games each year.
but i dont want the season shortened just leave it the way it is. and if div 3 does come in then there shouldnt really be any 200 point beltings week in week out.
with a more even competition a bottem team playing a top team 3 times wont be the advantage it is now.
mernda played macleod on the weekend and hit the front in the 3rd quarter and they are sitting 8th at the moment. (last in div 2 with 3 divs. although results would be different)