Division 2 thread 2022

[eflreceiver]

I worked yesterday so I missed seeing the Rams get spanked again. Face a tough game next week. All I want to do is look at all results and I simply can't. The EFL needs to get a better website server, the bandwidth that the server is offering is absolute shit. Nothing loads, it's pathetic and always has been. Whatever they are paying them they need to ask for a refund as they get SFA. It isn't my end as I get 200mbs down.

 

[CliffMcTainshaw]

I haven't had that problem, but my internet connection was really poor yesterday. I was visiting someone in hospital yesterday so didn't go to the game. Whenever I went to check the scores everything loaded OK. It was the usual suspects without any scores at all. Why the League stopped posting scores on twitter is a mystery. The current system obviously doesn't work for whatever reason (beer probably plays a part in some instances). It's the same clubs week after week at their home games. It's not an occasional thing, I can accept this will happen, just not every week. Obviously the league either doesn't monitor the scores or don't care if they are up or not. The League clearly fails to communicate what is supposed to happen to the clubs involved.

 

[Bobby Beecroft]

It was better when clubs would give quarterly updates on Twitter. This seemed to be a regular thing pre covid & I believe was encouraged by the league & media team.

Has this dropped off?

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I think it was encouraged and retweeted by the media team but isn’t any more… club are required to do it quarterly on the website but not all do.

Some clubs still do it via Twitter and Instagram too if you follow them.

End of the day you’re reliant on clubs who are reliant on volunteers, who there are less and less and less of. So there’s gonna be holes. It was the same with Twitter, not all clubs did it.

 

[Tackle Bag]

Last time I was at The Basin they had a really great setup where an outdoor bar and dozens of drunken nuffies around it was placed right on top of the opposition interchange and coaches. Wasn’t the best planning.

Certainly can be a cauldron for away teams. I’ve played there a few times and the home crowd on that embankment aren’t afraid to let you know what they think. It makes for a great atmosphere as long as no one goes too far. To their credit I don’t think I’ve ever seen any real trouble.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Certainly can be a cauldron for away teams. I’ve played there a few times and the home crowd on that embankment aren’t afraid to let you know what they think. It makes for a great atmosphere as long as no one goes too far. To their credit I don’t think I’ve ever seen any real trouble.

Got no problem with a boisterous crowd providing a home ground advantage, but don't think it's unreasonable to expect the opposition coaches and bench to be able to operate in peace. The placing of a bar right on top of them isn't a good idea because the baiting starts as soon as a few of the nuffies have had a few cans. Just move it all away from the bench a bit. Or move the bench if it's easier.

 

[Crusey]

Was watching juniors at Mitcham yesterday and noticed they have an area around their coaches box roped off to keep supporters away presumably

Funnily enough only the home team's

Couple of weeks ago at Lilydale we had an umpire threaten to take action against some rowdy supporters who he thought were in the coaches box

We have 3 coaches boxes one (Central) used to be used for the interchange stewards etc .... and that was where the noise was coming from not the official coaches box, was pretty funny

 

[Tackle Bag]

Was watching juniors at Mitcham yesterday and noticed they have an area around their coaches box roped off to keep supporters away presumably

Funnily enough only the home team's

Couple of weeks ago at Lilydale we had an umpire threaten to take action against some rowdy supporters who he thought were in the coaches box

We have 3 coaches boxes one (Central) used to be used for the interchange stewards etc .... and that was where the noise was coming from not the official coaches box, was pretty funny

Coached a final in another league a few years back and the league had sent out a memo to all clubs through the week saying any umpire abuse from the boundary would be penalised. An opposition supporter waited for just the right moment and yelled out from behind our box when there was a boundary throw in right in front of us. Sure enough the free kick went against us. I had to admit it was well played.

 

[CliffMcTainshaw]

It was better when clubs would give quarterly updates on Twitter. This seemed to be a regular thing pre covid & I believe was encouraged by the league & media team.

Has this dropped off?

Disappeared Bob.
In the top 3 Grades of the Box Hill Reporter Cricket Association the scores are updated ball by ball and run by run. You can see the scores change online as it happens. This includes batsmen's scores and bowlers figures. It's like looking at the scorebook. If they can get it to happen why can't our obviously more affluent League do the same. Next cricket season I believe you will be able to watch the game live online, albeit, from one fixed point with the video transmitted from an iPhone. Why is a local metropolitan competition capable of this technology but the EFNL can't match them.
Perhaps at the very least on the Website they could include, in the Resources menu, a "How to Video" on "How to Enter Scores." Once they produce an instructional video anyone should be capable of putting in the scores after seeing the video (assuming beer isn't involved).

 

[eflreceiver]

Disappeared Bob.
In the top 3 Grades of the Box Hill Reporter Cricket Association the scores are updated ball by ball and run by run. You can see the scores change online as it happens. This includes batsmen's scores and bowlers figures. It's like looking at the scorebook. If they can get it to happen why can't our obviously more affluent League do the same. Next cricket season I believe you will be able to watch the game live online, albeit, from one fixed point with the video transmitted from an iPhone. Why is a local metropolitan competition capable of this technology but the EFNL can't match them.
Perhaps at the very least on the Website they could include, in the Resources menu, a "How to Video" on "How to Enter Scores." Once they produce an instructional video anyone should be capable of putting in the scores after seeing the video (assuming beer isn't involved).

You still need volunteers to put the scores in and even at the moment, Covid has stopped many people, especially the older generation from attending of whom many help out. I noticed even the AFL crowds are down.

 

[CliffMcTainshaw]

You still need volunteers to put the scores in and even at the moment, Covid has stopped many people, especially the older generation from attending of whom many help out. I noticed even the AFL crowds are down.

I can assure you there are a lot less volunteers at cricket clubs than at footy clubs.
We already have people who record the scores and goal scorers during the game. How difficult would it be to directly to upload those scores to the internet. All they would need is a iPad or tablet or maybe just a phone to enter the details and it is sent automatically every time a score is entered.
It wouldn't create any extra work, all it would do is change the recording method from paper to a device.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I can assure you there are a lot less volunteers at cricket clubs than at footy clubs.
We already have people who record the scores and goal scorers during the game. How difficult would it be to directly to upload those scores to the internet. All they would need is a iPad or tablet or maybe just a phone to enter the details and it is sent automatically every time a score is entered.
It wouldn't create any extra work, all it would do is change the recording method from paper to a device.

Cricket is better integrated I think, as you say. The scoring system at the ground is linked.

For footy you have somebody doing the scoreboard (usually the timekeeper) and that's not linked to any online system.

 

[CliffMcTainshaw]

Cricket is better integrated I think, as you say. The scoring system at the ground is linked.

For footy you have somebody doing the scoreboard (usually the timekeeper) and that's not linked to any online system.

Exactly the point. It could be linked, so why isn't it?

 

[eflreceiver]

Cricket is a summer sport and more people are simply outdoors in summer. Apples v Oranges.

 

[CliffMcTainshaw]

Cricket is a summer sport and more people are simply outdoors in summer. Apples v Oranges.

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[eflreceiver]

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You have more people out in summer, it's only natural that you will have a larger pool of people who may wish and do volunteer. You don't have the same luxury as a winter sport such as football.

 

[CliffMcTainshaw]

You have more people out in summer, it's only natural that you will have a larger pool of people who may wish and do volunteer. You don't have the same luxury as a winter sport such as football.

You obviously don't go to many local cricket matches. Apart from players there would only ever be a handful of volunteers and spectators at a mid season game. Ask GMac, he would be able confirm it.
Anyway, it's not an argument you can put forward. To implement the system all you need to do is provide an iPad or tablet to whoever records the scores and the app to do it. They record the score and it's automatically updated online. No extra volunteers needed at all.

 

[Bobby Beecroft]

Disappeared Bob.
In the top 3 Grades of the Box Hill Reporter Cricket Association the scores are updated ball by ball and run by run. You can see the scores change online as it happens. This includes batsmen's scores and bowlers figures. It's like looking at the scorebook. If they can get it to happen why can't our obviously more affluent League do the same. Next cricket season I believe you will be able to watch the game live online, albeit, from one fixed point with the video transmitted from an iPhone. Why is a local metropolitan competition capable of this technology but the EFNL can't match them.
Perhaps at the very least on the Website they could include, in the Resources menu, a "How to Video" on "How to Enter Scores." Once they produce an instructional video anyone should be capable of putting in the scores after seeing the video (assuming beer isn't involved).

That system would be a disaster for me the time I played in that league. No where to hide!!!

& why anyone would want to watch me having a hit live is beyond me, surely time would be better spent at the track, in a pub, at the beach…….

 

[Voice of the G]

You obviously don't go to many local cricket matches. Apart from players there would only ever be a handful of volunteers and spectators at a mid season game. Ask GMac, he would be able confirm it.
Anyway, it's not an argument you can put forward. To implement the system all you need to do is provide an iPad or tablet to whoever records the scores and the app to do it. They record the score and it's automatically updated online. No extra volunteers needed at all.

Agree with the number of volunteers at a cricket game.BUT with live scoring in cricket it is still early days and not many clubs use it in the BHRDCA.RDCA a little different especially juniors where most games are live scored but there are issues with the system crashing and people not sure how to use it including myself.If any of our games are being live scored or even better live streamed we put up on our 4 screens we have in the new viewing room.The only issues with a live streamed game is they are a fixed camera and no commentary. Back on football we see people filming every game but from what I can see only about 3 minutes of highlights are replayed back by the EFNL.We had a group that filmed and broadcast our senior womens game a few weeks back(10.40AM start) but then they moved to another venue to do the same at a senior game.You can watch the game on FB but not sure whether it is live.Personally perhaps I should move with the times but I still prefer the old way the EFNL did footy with the Sunday morning show on 98.1,Saturday 1PM till 6PM also on 98.1.

 

[CliffMcTainshaw]

Agree with the number of volunteers at a cricket game.BUT with live scoring in cricket it is still early days and not many clubs use it in the BHRDCA.RDCA a little different especially juniors where most games are live scored but there are issues with the system crashing and people not sure how to use it including myself.If any of our games are being live scored or even better live streamed we put up on our 4 screens we have in the new viewing room.The only issues with a live streamed game is they are a fixed camera and no commentary. Back on football we see people filming every game but from what I can see only about 3 minutes of highlights are replayed back by the EFNL.We had a group that filmed and broadcast our senior womens game a few weeks back(10.40AM start) but then they moved to another venue to do the same at a senior game.You can watch the game on FB but not sure whether it is live.Personally perhaps I should move with the times but I still prefer the old way the EFNL did footy with the Sunday morning show on 98.1,Saturday 1PM till 6PM also on 98.1.

As I understand it the first 3 divisions are required to use it. You don't have to know how to use it. Put in the numbers and the App does the rest.

That system would be a disaster for me the time I played in that league. No where to hide!!!

& why anyone would want to watch me having a hit live is beyond me, surely time would be better spent at the track, in a pub, at the beach…….

They could watch you live while they were at the track, in a pub, at the beach. Even your missus could check that you were at the game and not the TAB.

 

[Voice of the G]

As I understand it the first 3 divisions are required to use it. You don't have to know how to use it. Put in the numbers and the App does the rest.


They could watch you live while they were at the track, in a pub, at the beach. Even your missus could check that you were at the game and not the TAB.

My understanding of live scoring in BHRDCA cricket is they would like the top 3 senior grades to live score which about 80% are doing."Put in the numbers and the App does the rest" correct but there are still issues with it but compared to EFNL football is far better with progress/final scores.RDCA junior cricket clubs especially are very good with live scoring.

 

[eflreceiver]

You obviously don't go to many local cricket matches. Apart from players there would only ever be a handful of volunteers and spectators at a mid season game. Ask GMac, he would be able confirm it.
Anyway, it's not an argument you can put forward. To implement the system all you need to do is provide an iPad or tablet to whoever records the scores and the app to do it. They record the score and it's automatically updated online. No extra volunteers needed at all.

Correct I don't go to cricket these days, I mow the lawn and watch the grass grow for some excitement.

 

[CliffMcTainshaw]

My understanding of live scoring in BHRDCA cricket is they would like the top 3 senior grades to live score which about 80% are doing."Put in the numbers and the App does the rest" correct but there are still issues with it but compared to EFNL football is far better with progress/final scores.RDCA junior cricket clubs especially are very good with live scoring.

It just shows what is possible and it is light years ahead of the EFNL method.

 

[CliffMcTainshaw]

Correct I don't go to cricket these days, I mow the lawn and watch the grass grow for some excitement.

Come along to the cricket. It will help you calm down after your week of excitement or if you really want more excitement in your life you can just look at the big expanses of grass growing.

 

[Lowey33]

How hard is it to have an iPad on the time keepers table for them to keep score every qtr, or even every time there’s a score? Even in summer baseball we have an app that is updated every pitch! It’s a necessity in first div…reckon there’s someone that can come up with an app that can link to the clubs scoreboard, or. Linked to the dudes in the scoreboard.