Society/Culture Do less intelligent people gravitate to conservative/right wing ideology?

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Because Australia follows US trends. See the amount of discussion on the Trump & Biden threads.
You'd be happy with Pauline as an example I assume?
Nonsense.

You need an enemy to keep your fight alive, and you've invented one in the absence of objective evidence for your 'rationale'.
 

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I don't really classify myself as anything tbh. But I'm definitely not right wing 😅
But not as far left as Peter Dutton.

Of course no righty would admit being a righty because, as even they know, that'd be admitting to being an f*cking idiot.

Not talking about you BPT, you're definitely not right wing :thumbsu:
 
But not as far left as Peter Dutton.

Of course no righty would admit being a righty because, as even they know, that'd be admitting to being an f*cking idiot.

Not talking about you BPT, you're definitely not right wing :thumbsu:
I'll bite.

What part of me says right wing Grin? Is it my belief in higher corporate & wealth taxation? Is it my desire to abolish negative gearing and capital gains tax concessions for residential property? Is it my push for stronger public social & healthcare services? Or is it that I'm a strong advocate for abolishing fossil fuel energy sources (I'm a big fan of nuclear energy fyi).

Or is it that I called you out for behaving like a flog and that you're no better than those you try to admonish? Sometimes it's easier to strike the mirror than confront our own shortfalls.

Aaannnnddd I'm leaving the thread again.
 
I'll bite.

What part of me says right wing Grin? Is it my belief in higher corporate & wealth taxation? Is it my desire to abolish negative gearing and capital gains tax concessions for residential property? Is it my push for stronger public social & healthcare services? Or is it that I'm a strong advocate for abolishing fossil fuel energy sources (I'm a big fan of nuclear energy fyi).

Or is it that I called you out for behaving like a flog and that you're no better than those you try to admonish? Sometimes it's easier to strike the mirror than confront our own shortfalls.

Aaannnnddd I'm leaving the thread again.
What, and you don't want to abolish capital gains tax concessions for shares? You're obviously a RWNJ flog.
 
I recall an obese RWNJ conspiracy theorist on the Crows board once telling me that the reason society has got to this point is Liberals let it happen...

And I agree. We've been too polite to people.

We've let 'that's your opinion' cover the sins of blatant mistruths and lies. We've assumed arguments in good faith, when there was none.

We need to call stupid for what it is and not hide behind offending people.

If you fell for Trump you are an idiot, still don't believe Climate Science, you are an idiot. Flat Earther, idiot. Think Covid vaccines aren't safe? Idiot.

(Yes it's tongue in cheek, but everything else have failed so why not give it a crack 🤣)
I mean, a lot of people who "fell" for Trump just like someone sticking it to the man, and hey, Old Mate Trump didn't drop any bombs on small brown children like obama, (left), and bush (right) and so on and so on before them.

Bit hard to throw a blanket over everyone who gravitates to an ideology and call them stupid.

I really think that both parties / sides / ideologies want you to fight amongst yourselves.

I personally don't care or get involved in politics as it takes away from my primary and by far favourite pursuit (MONEY)
 
I mean, a lot of people who "fell" for Trump just like someone sticking it to the man, and hey, Old Mate Trump didn't drop any bombs on small brown children like obama, (left), and bush (right) and so on and so on before them.

Bit hard to throw a blanket over everyone who gravitates to an ideology and call them stupid.

I really think that both parties / sides / ideologies want you to fight amongst yourselves.

I personally don't care or get involved in politics as it takes away from my primary and by far favourite pursuit (MONEY)
No, if you fell for Trump you are uniquely stupid.

I agree you can talk about the pros and cons of other leaders, well you used to be able to. Maybe one day.

Moneys fine, hope you get enough to make you happy 👍
 
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No, if you fell for Trump you are uniquely stupid.

I agree you can talk about the pros and cons of other leaders, well you used to be able to. Maybe one day.

Moneys fine, hope you get enough to make you happy 👍
Enough to find politics and it's discussion in friendly company distateful :p
 

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No, if you fell for Trump you are uniquely stupid.

I agree you can talk about the pros and cons of other leaders, well you used to be able to. Maybe one day.

Moneys fine, hope you get enough to make you happy 👍
while i tend to agree that trump supporters are dumb (the people still supporting him 100% are), i think it's a bit incredulous to say that all of them are dumb. 2016 was dumb because Clinton was acting like she was going to win from the get go, instead of treating someone she'd infantilised throughout her campaign with respect (that he didn't earn but did likely deserve to be treated with). Betting on politics is dumb but from like 2 months before the election I personally felt that it'd be far closer than any democrat thought it was going to be. the "undecided" or "silent" voters are a powerful demographic to have. they're the kind of people that Scott Morrison wished he had when he lost to Albo last year.

while he did run as a republican nominee his platform was similar to any other rightwing populist around the world (think Marine Le Pen or Pauline Hansen), a lot of what he was saying resonated with losers who'd coasted through life doing nothing but still having some success. white people who've been left behind, idiots and just hardcore right wing conservatives all felt seen by him because he was seen as an outsider of the party, and "relatable" (despite having **** off amounts of money he's just like me, totally). being relatable as a politician is powerful because you don't have to pretend to be someone else to get people to vote for you.

populism at it's core is standing for nothing to be elected while saying the stuff that people "want to hear" and in his case it was a dogmatic attack on anyone to the left of someone like George W Bush. it's dumb, but it's effective because it gives the people who don't give a shit about politics the respect that they think they deserve.

nowadays trump people are just hateful, vitriolic bigots who're too blinded by their own fanaticism and love for him to realise that they've been effectively brainwashed into joining what's essentially a cult of personality around someone who cares more about money than sense
 
People fall one way or the other based on what they percieve.

Someone who's grown up in the slums being told the government need to do more is just as likely to be an extremist lefty as someone who grew up middle class/upper class being told "work hard and succeed" will end up on the right.

It has nothing to do with education/lack of education
 
while i tend to agree that trump supporters are dumb (the people still supporting him 100% are), i think it's a bit incredulous to say that all of them are dumb. 2016 was dumb because Clinton was acting like she was going to win from the get go, instead of treating someone she'd infantilised throughout her campaign with respect (that he didn't earn but did likely deserve to be treated with). Betting on politics is dumb but from like 2 months before the election I personally felt that it'd be far closer than any democrat thought it was going to be. the "undecided" or "silent" voters are a powerful demographic to have. they're the kind of people that Scott Morrison wished he had when he lost to Albo last year.

while he did run as a republican nominee his platform was similar to any other rightwing populist around the world (think Marine Le Pen or Pauline Hansen), a lot of what he was saying resonated with losers who'd coasted through life doing nothing but still having some success. white people who've been left behind, idiots and just hardcore right wing conservatives all felt seen by him because he was seen as an outsider of the party, and "relatable" (despite having * off amounts of money he's just like me, totally). being relatable as a politician is powerful because you don't have to pretend to be someone else to get people to vote for you.

populism at it's core is standing for nothing to be elected while saying the stuff that people "want to hear" and in his case it was a dogmatic attack on anyone to the left of someone like George W Bush. it's dumb, but it's effective because it gives the people who don't give a s**t about politics the respect that they think they deserve.

nowadays trump people are just hateful, vitriolic bigots who're too blinded by their own fanaticism and love for him to realise that they've been effectively brainwashed into joining what's essentially a cult of personality around someone who cares more about money than sense
Yep! Trump was terrible!! Biggest war in Europe for 70 years, China menacing and aggressively coercing Taiwan, Afghanistan falling back to barbarity (you would hate to be a woman or gay there), and inflation running wild.

Oh hang on……

I’m not pro trump. I think he is deranged. But the other guy is far more dangerous and much worse.

So tell me, what does that say for the intelligence of the people who follow Biden?

I’ll leave those of you with a brain to come to your own conclusions about labelling people stupid for supporting Trump
 
Yep! Trump was terrible!! Biggest war in Europe for 70 years, China menacing and aggressively coercing Taiwan, Afghanistan falling back to barbarity (you would hate to be a woman or gay there), and inflation running wild.

Oh hang on……

I’m not pro trump. I think he is deranged. But the other guy is far more dangerous and much worse.

So tell me, what does that say for the intelligence of the people who follow Biden?

I’ll leave those of you with a brain to come to your own conclusions about labelling people stupid for supporting Trump
That's the point.

No one 'follows' Biden. The dude appears to be there only because he isn't Trump. I can't imagine anyone in Australia voting Biden for anything. Trump however... the morons would try voting twice.

I'm interested however hpw Biden is more dangerous, that sounds like the ravings of a MAGA republican. So interested to know.
 
That's the point.

No one 'follows' Biden. The dude appears to be there only because he isn't Trump. I can't imagine anyone in Australia voting Biden for anything. Trump however... the morons would try voting twice.

I'm interested however hpw Biden is more dangerous, that sounds like the ravings of a MAGA republican. So interested to know.
Trump foreign policy: destroy ISIS (the Obama admin claimed that this would take decades), sign a few middle eastern peace deals, get the Korea's to chill out for a hot minute.

Biden foreign policy: exactly the same as every predecessor (excluding Trump). War everywhere, rich investors get richer, young men get slaughtered.
 
Trump foreign policy: destroy ISIS (the Obama admin claimed that this would take decades)
No he didn't.
, sign a few middle eastern peace deals,
Yes he did, it was great to get peace amongst countries that were never at war.
get the Korea's to chill out for a hot minute.
He lowered himself to the same level of a dictator of a pariah country, but it was amusing whilst he did.

Biden foreign policy: exactly the same as every predecessor (excluding Trump). War everywhere, rich investors get richer, young men get slaughtered.
All sounds true, its probably not as bad as you make it out. I mean the US isn't at war with anyone so that is nice.

But don't care really, he's still better than Trump for the US and the world at large.
 
Trump foreign policy: destroy ISIS (the Obama admin claimed that this would take decades), sign a few middle eastern peace deals, get the Korea's to chill out for a hot minute.

Biden foreign policy: exactly the same as every predecessor (excluding Trump). War everywhere, rich investors get richer, young men get slaughtered.
... tear up Iran's non-nuclear proliferation treaty...
 
That's the point.

No one 'follows' Biden. The dude appears to be there only because he isn't Trump. I can't imagine anyone in Australia voting Biden for anything. Trump however... the morons would try voting twice.

I'm interested however hpw Biden is more dangerous, that sounds like the ravings of a MAGA republican. So interested to know.
Haha read the first paragraph of my post you quoted.

"Yep! Trump was terrible!! Biggest war in Europe for 70 years, China menacing and aggressively coercing Taiwan, Afghanistan falling back to barbarity (you would hate to be a woman or gay there), and inflation running wild"

The above is all since Biden took over....
 
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No he didn't.
"Obama admin" != Obama himself. Although yes, he did personally refer to it as a "generational struggle" that could not be defeated militarily. Trump pulled it off in 6 months largely by simply ceasing the funding programs of "moderate rebels" in the area.

Funny innit how when you stop pouring money into proxy wars they tend to fizzle out.

Note I'm only referring to foreign policy here. Domestically, Trump was as bad as it gets.
 
"Obama admin" != Obama himself. Although yes, he did personally refer to it as a "generational struggle" that could not be defeated militarily. Trump pulled it off in 6 months largely by simply ceasing the funding programs of "moderate rebels" in the area.

Funny innit how when you stop pouring money into proxy wars they tend to fizzle out.

Note I'm only referring to foreign policy here. Domestically, Trump was as bad as it gets.
Trump was a disaster on the international stage.

What Trump did in Afghanistan was completely useless. Sure he may have made some marginal improvement to some US trading agreement, but otherwise he was a complete dud.

He's the US version of Scott Morrison, but on steroids
 
Haha read the first paragraph of my post you quoted.

"Yep! Trump was terrible!! Biggest war in Europe for 70 years, China menacing and aggressively coercing Taiwan, Afghanistan falling back to barbarity (you would hate to be a woman or gay there), and inflation running wild"

The above is all since Biden took over....
Yeah Biden declared war on Ukraine, the rest of your comments are just simplifying things you don't understand

You guys love proving this thread title correct don't you.
 
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