Society/Culture Do less intelligent people gravitate to conservative/right wing ideology?

[52Goals4inGranny]

Yeah Biden declared war on Ukraine, the rest of your comments are just simplify things you don't understand

You guys love proving this thread title correct don't you.

This thread should be renamed to "do less intelligent people gravitate to one rusted on political ideology no matter what?"

Enjoy my friend

 

[Cap]

This thread should be renamed to "do less intelligent people gravitate to one rusted on political ideology no matter what?"

Enjoy my friend

What political ideology is that?

You are the one defending a grifter, so only one person here seems to be rusted on.

I care for neither.

 

[FireKrakouer]

Trump was a disaster on the international stage.

What Trump did in Afghanistan was completely useless. Sure he may have made some marginal improvement to some US trading agreement, but otherwise he was a complete dud.

He's the US version of Scott Morrison, but on steroids

I thought after your very reasonable post in the other thread about partisanship that you would be one of the lefties who accepted that Trumps foreign policy was his strength (even biased loons such as bourbons admit as much).

Was his motivation pure? Very unlikely, he probably wanted his name on a Nobel Peace prize for narcissistic reasons. Which he likely would have received had China not tapped KJU on the shoulder. But to be the first POTUS in a generation to not invade a new country (and to in fact end the invasions of countries) is something that even the most partisan of partisan hacks must acknowledge. Obama made even Dubya blush by stepping his warhawk campaign up from 2 countries to 6 or 7 odd.

The withdrawal from Afghanistan was clearly far from perfect and was blamed by the Biden admin on the Trump admin for negotiating the circumstances, but honestly wtf were we expecting? What on earth was Uncle Sam attempting to achieve there in those 20 years? Drink that thought in m8, let it marinade...

 

[Cap]

I thought after your very reasonable post in the other thread about partisanship that you would be one of the lefties who accepted that Trumps foreign policy was his strength (even biased loons such as bourbons admit as much).

Was his motivation pure? Very unlikely, he probably wanted his name on a Nobel Peace prize for narcissistic reasons. Which he likely would have received had China not tapped KJU on the shoulder. But to be the first POTUS in a generation to not invade a new country (and to in fact end the invasions of countries) is something that every the most partisan of partisan hacks must acknowledge. Obama made even Dubya blush by stepping his warhawk campaign up from 2 countries to 6 or 7 odd.

The withdrawal from Afghanistan was clearly far from perfect and was blamed by the Biden admin on the Trump admin for negotiating the circumstances, but honestly wtf were we expecting? What on earth was Uncle Sam attempting to achieve there in those 20 years? Drink that thought in m8, let it marinade...

Again, noting Trump as being on balance a dud neither makes you a lefty or a partisan hack. It is just the reality of life.

Sure Foreign policy might have been his strength, but a student who gets all Fs except a C in PE would also reflect that PE was his strength. But it's still bad compared to everyone else.

I'm sure you can justify anything he has done, that's what disciples of cult leaders do.

 

[FireKrakouer]

Again, noting Trump as being on balance a dud neither makes you a lefty or a partisan hack. It is just the reality of life.

Sure Foreign policy might have been his strength, but a student who gets all Fs except a C in PE would also reflect that PE was his strength. But it's still bad compared to everyone else.

I'm sure you can justify anything he has done, that's what disciples of cult leaders do.

Well m8 if we get back to the premise of this thread, are people still in the Trump cult less intelligent? Heck yes.

People who voted Trump in 2016? I feel like things would have been similar domestically had Hillary won (a roaring economy until covid hit). Internationally? We have no way of knowing for sure but she had promised enforcement of a no-fly zone over Syria and a continuation of trade deals that Trump ripped up (with the approval of Bernie Sanders).

 

[jannissary]

Yep! Trump was terrible!! Biggest war in Europe for 70 years, China menacing and aggressively coercing Taiwan, Afghanistan falling back to barbarity (you would hate to be a woman or gay there), and inflation running wild.

Oh hang on……

I’m not pro trump. I think he is deranged. But the other guy is far more dangerous and much worse.

So tell me, what does that say for the intelligence of the people who follow Biden?

I’ll leave those of you with a brain to come to your own conclusions about labelling people stupid for supporting Trump

yeah i do suppose that the war in europe (that was 100% started by the biden administration) is joe biden's fault, not obama's fault (think crimea in 2014!!) or the yugoslav wars in the 90's (which started under elder bush).

same as china doing what china's been doing for many, many years, which is totally joe biden's fault, and the taliban deal was always going to go that way, but donald trump did increase the amount of US soldiers on the ground in afghanistan before they pulled out, instead of rolling down the number of people in the country like he said he'd do.

i don't care for joe biden, he's an old coot who will not live to see the damage that he'll do to the world. us politics is far more polarising than here because i can't imagine any normal australian voting for him.

 

[Gethelred]

Alright, Cap and Big Papa Ted, that's enough. Don't particularly care who started it, it ends now.

Also, might've escaped my notice, but the Trump thread is this way:

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FireKrakouer, I know you're positively overjoyed to have been let back in there, but try not to treat these threads as though vegemite on toast; best spread as broadly and as thickly as possible.

This thread is about debating the question, 'Do less intelligent people gravitate to conservative/right wing ideology?'

Play on.

 

[Grin]

This thread is about debating the question, 'Do less intelligent people gravitate to conservative/right wing ideology?'

Play on.

I tend to think so

Why?
Well that's a topic for another thread.

 

[bourbons]

I thought after your very reasonable post in the other thread about partisanship that you would be one of the lefties who accepted that Trumps foreign policy was his strength (even biased loons such as bourbons admit as much).

Could have done without the tag into this dumpster fire of a thread m8.

Biden = "war everywhere" in comparison to Trump is some kinda take considering Biden actually withdrew from Afghanistan, something Trump had promised yet somehow didn't do despite 4 years in power. Have you wheeled out the ol' drone strike dribble yet? Must be just around the corner.

I can feel brain cells dying reading the few sentences of yours I've just skimmed in here, leave me out next time yeah?

 

[FireKrakouer]

Could have done without the tag into this dumpster fire of a thread m8.

Biden = "war everywhere" in comparison to Trump is some kinda take considering Biden actually withdrew from Afghanistan, something Trump had promised yet somehow didn't do despite 4 years in power. Have you wheeled out the ol' drone strike dribble yet? Must be just around the corner.

I can feel brain cells dying reading the few sentences of yours I've just skimmed in here, leave me out next time yeah?

Sorry m8. It was an accident. I was having too much fun, got a lil too excited.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Life’s good! I’m watching Carlton fail hard and winding up a dullard on Bigfooty after a great week at work.

Really, you hold down a job?

I'm shocked but good for you brother.

 

[Seeds]

Again, noting Trump as being on balance a dud neither makes you a lefty or a partisan hack. It is just the reality of life.

Sure Foreign policy might have been his strength, but a student who gets all Fs except a C in PE would also reflect that PE was his strength. But it's still bad compared to everyone else.

I'm sure you can justify anything he has done, that's what disciples of cult leaders do.

Foreign policy is not his strength. Its actually his greatest weakness.

the guy supports putin ffs and would abandon the defence of ukraine. How could you possible support his foreign policy?

if the usa carried through his isolationist views it would be the biggest global economic and social disaster since the black plague.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

One thing I have noted that is almost uniquely right wing is this "both sides do it" argument anytime a right-wing shortcoming is exposed. Disingenuously the RWNJ's actually introduce this particular line of bullshit to the conversation as a tactic to try to share the blame with the left and to make themselves appear politically neutral.

 

[Cap]

Foreign policy is not his strength. Its actually his greatest weakness.

the guy supports putin ffs and would abandon the defence of ukraine. How could you possible support his foreign policy?

if the usa carried through his isolationist views it would be the biggest global economic and social disaster since the black plague.

I'm trying to be reasonable. Everyone has a strength. It's just his strength is still bog average compared to even the bad leaders.

Maybe sexual assault is his only strength, all I know, on balance he was bad for the world.

 

[Boston tiger]

https://amp.theguardian.com/commen...licans-political-beliefs-national-survey-poll

“For Democrats, the education effect was even worse: the more educated a Democrat is, according to the study, the less he or she understands the Republican worldview.”

 

[Cap]

Think Republicans are disconnected from reality? It's even worse among liberals | US politics | The Guardian

“For Democrats, the education effect was even worse: the more educated a Democrat is, according to the study, the less he or she understands the Republican worldview.”

I always find it amusing when someone posts a link to an article but shares a tiny bit of it.

Perception gap is interesting, no idea what you were trying to achieve posting a tiny fraction of it though.

 

[kranky al]

I'm on my phone so grain-of-salt, but after the US 2016 election there were sources shared here showing that Trump voters had a higher income on average than Hillary voters.

I realise that income != intelligence. But also that education != a high successful career. Arts and gender studies grads may be considered "educated" but they're still flipping burgers at maccas alongside the highschool drop outs. It's interesting.

So if a good education is essential for a good career, does it not entrench people in a lower class by spending more money in schools that have 40k plus a year in school fees whilst reducing the amount spent on schools in low income areas?

 

[FireKrakouer]

So if a good education is essential for a good career, does it not entrench people in a lower class by spending more money in schools that have 40k plus a year in school fees whilst reducing the amount spent on schools in low income areas?

I don't think good education is necessarily essential for a good career, but it certainly helps and I agree with your point about funding.

 

[Danw0w]

So I'm guessing you've never made a mistake or done anything stupid right?

Don't ever criticise other people for their IQ.

 

[Cooldude]

So I'm guessing you've never made a mistake or done anything stupid right?

Don't ever criticise other people for their IQ.

Nah we should

 

[Boston tiger]

I always find it amusing when someone posts a link to an article but shares a tiny bit of it.

Perception gap is interesting, no idea what you were trying to achieve posting a tiny fraction of it though.

Do you read it otherwise? It’s called click bait.

 

[Danw0w]

Nah we should

Why?

 

[Cooldude]

Why?

Because mollycoddling ignorance and stupidity leads to it growing and festering which endangers society, look at America

The truly arrogant and entitled ones are the people who say the most uneducated rubbish yet expect to be taken seriously by default and never challenged

 

[Boston tiger]

Because mollycoddling ignorance and stupidity leads to it growing and festering which endangers society, look at America

The truly arrogant and entitled ones are the people who say the most uneducated rubbish yet expect to be taken seriously by default and never challenged

What should be the iQ cut off for voting ?

 

[Cooldude]

What should be the iQ cut off for voting ?

What kinda bizarre hallucinations you have to go through to jump to this crazy leap? What a stupid irrelevant question, clear obvious bait