With virtually no hope of playing finals, yep we need to expose more of our youngsters to senior footy in the remaining games.
Do we have the worst under 25 in the Comp?
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- Oct 3, 2013
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Among the under 25 brigade:
Good:
I don't think it's a catastrophe, but it is a shallow pool of talent we have. We need to go back to the draft and find some good young talent to build around Nick for the next generation.
Good:
- Nick Daicos
- Beau McCreery
- Bobby Hill
- Isaac Quaynor
- Joe Richards
- Charlie Dean
- Reef McInnes
- Harvey Harrison
- Harry DeMattia
- Tew Jiath
- Ed Allan
I don't think it's a catastrophe, but it is a shallow pool of talent we have. We need to go back to the draft and find some good young talent to build around Nick for the next generation.
Yeah. We have some issues. Big rebuild incoming.
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Mcreery Richards and IQ are just role players right now. Mcreery is borderline best 23, him or Harrison.
Hill is having a very mediocre season
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Apart from nick yes we do unfortunately, hopefully some of them become good players but we need high end talent
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choosing to compare with essendon is a depressing thought...
interesting that we ended up with so many picks that year...just a happy coincidence
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I think you're being generous with Mcreery. He's 23 now and, outside of a few flashes early in the year, was really disappointing in most of his games this year. Very fumbly, getting caught with the ball and just looking lost on the field.
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Hard to argue
Next question; do we have the worst player development team?
Our VFL team can’t even beat stand-alones (consisting of Uni students, apprentice plasterers and fork lift drivers).
Start at the foundations.
Overhaul the recruitment team and get rid of Josh Fraser.
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That was the year that our all powerful recruiting team wanted to get into the first round of draft and let a heap of over paid players go for ridiculous cheap deals.
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Ginnivan was best on ground yesterday, he’s certainly under 25. Treloar was probably best on ground for the Bulldogs yesterday as well. I know he’s well over 25, but my point is that we’ve made some poor decisions in recent years.
Yes we clearly do
Dekka still doing an amazing job according to many on here though. Mind boggling he still has any fans. Some real Stockholm syndrome stuff
Dekka still doing an amazing job according to many on here though. Mind boggling he still has any fans. Some real Stockholm syndrome stuff
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At the risk of a broken record we needed to reshape the side earlier but que serra it will have to happen next year.
I'm genuinely curious what happens from here.
If we trade a 2nd rounder we are out of the draft. So who are we putting up for trade with currency?
Our better performed 30+ are pendles and whe. They and side b are the only ones ooc. Who goes? Who stays?
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When do the Under 25 Championships start?
Until then, what a pointless whiny thread.
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Until then, what a pointless whiny thread.
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It's a horrific core group, even with Naicos. But it's ok Jeff Browne says we don't plan on bottoming out and we also don't need draft picks for using or trading, is he getting advice from Trump?
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I rely on others here for draft/trade information as I just don’t have much of a clue about it. However I would be up for an overhaul of the recruitment team. Dekka has been there a long time and I just think it’s professional for an organisation to refresh staff and systems regularly.
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I'll answer this question with a couple of questions.
We knew that aiming for a flag meant that the average age of the playing group would be high. We kept Sidey, Pendles, & Howe on the list and they helped deliver the ultimate.
Was it unreasonable to keep the same group together and to trade draft picks for another crack at it in '24?
If other clubs in the comp had the same opportunity Collingwood did to go B2B, would they do anything differently or would they have gone down the elite youth path?
We can't be questioning the club's list management strategy without considering the above.
In short, stop the fkng whinging.
We knew that aiming for a flag meant that the average age of the playing group would be high. We kept Sidey, Pendles, & Howe on the list and they helped deliver the ultimate.
Was it unreasonable to keep the same group together and to trade draft picks for another crack at it in '24?
If other clubs in the comp had the same opportunity Collingwood did to go B2B, would they do anything differently or would they have gone down the elite youth path?
We can't be questioning the club's list management strategy without considering the above.
In short, stop the fkng whinging.
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I disagree. We have some exciting talent. I think Jiath, DeMattia, Eyre, Smit, Steene, Allan in particular can be good senior players in the coming 12 to 24 months. Of course we have Naicos whilst Joe Richards, Harrison and McInnes are going to be a very good player long-term players for us.
We will get a key forward in this upcoming draft. There's a few exciting ones there that will be available. I hope we look at a Alex Davies from the Suns as a moneyball trade for our midfield. He's only 22 and will slot in nicely with Naicos and co.We also have a gun midfielder heading to us in the 2025 draft in Thomas McGuane.
In all the doom and gloom of this season, there's still exciting times ahead.....Go Pies!!
We will get a key forward in this upcoming draft. There's a few exciting ones there that will be available. I hope we look at a Alex Davies from the Suns as a moneyball trade for our midfield. He's only 22 and will slot in nicely with Naicos and co.We also have a gun midfielder heading to us in the 2025 draft in Thomas McGuane.
In all the doom and gloom of this season, there's still exciting times ahead.....Go Pies!!
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we won the flag last year without Treloar, who has been gone for a few years now, and Ginni was virtually a liability on Grand Final day.
The players that were under 25 and half decent we seem to give away. Ginnivan, Poulter etc
Poor recruiting, poor trading and poor decision making.
Poor recruiting, poor trading and poor decision making.
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Agree. We supporters can be so fickle, myself included but having been around since the 70s things can turn good or bad quickly. It's the nature of the comp. Fly had us competing against all comers from day dot, he never had a chance to build a team or to come up with a new game plan, he didn't need to coz we were up and about from the start. I'm prepared to give him a go with a clean slate of youngsters.
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If that is the price for winning a premiership, l will take it.
Still as the old saying goes, things are never as good as they seem nor as bad as they appear.
People being overly pessimistic as those who were overly optimistic about a three peat.
I am confident we can gird ourselves for another shot next year after a decent break and a better run with injuries.
Still as the old saying goes, things are never as good as they seem nor as bad as they appear.
People being overly pessimistic as those who were overly optimistic about a three peat.
I am confident we can gird ourselves for another shot next year after a decent break and a better run with injuries.
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We are going to have to add some quality to the midfield otherwise we won't achieve anything next year
That's a generous assessment of Bobby Hill. I'd suggest his fall is as great as anybody in the team and possibly in the AFL. He is currently the 446th ranked player. Putting that into perspective, Joe Richards and Lachie Schultz are ranked higher.
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We have next to no elite youth apart from N. Daicos.
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