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Does Geelong's 'lifestyle' factor give them an unfair advantage for free agency signings?
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Jackington
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Ablett was from Geelong originally so that hardly counts.
Elliot Yeo? Jack Redden? (before you say anything about Redden not being a star, he was highly rated in his last season at Brisbane). Daniel Chick? Tyson Stenglein?
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Fairbairn Drive, Corio which also intersects with Sharland Rd.
Worst one, two punch in the city.
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No. That was simply a list of every player who has switched clubs to Geelong over the past 10 years.
One or two of them (e.g, Crameri, Stengle) were probably happy to be thrown a lifeline and continue their AFL careers
A couple of others probably saw it as a chance to snag a premiership medal.
But I'm fairly sure most of those guys preferred to sign with Geelong instead of another well-run club because of the lifestyle.
Ablett went "home", but it's also a homecoming for many other players who grew up down that way. eg. Dangerfield, Rohan, Henderson... These are all lifestyle based decisions. It's not the same as a WA player going "home". Geelong is only an hour's drive away from Melbourne (closer than many of my family and friends.) They chose to go back there for the lifestyle.
Do we really need to argue about this? Isn't it something that EVERY Geelong player acknowledges when they're interviewed and it comes up for discussion?
Jesus Christ.
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No, be clear....Rohan came so he could diddle one of the physios.
Ablett came for the nose beers
As did Thompson.
Henderson was a Carlton dud.
Touhy was a Carlton clusterf@#$
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Obviously the PEDs have played a huge part too in Geelong's dominance
You conveniently skipped over that.
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It's much easier to find a reason why someone else has an unfair edge in life than it is to have an honest look at yourself and why you don't measure up.
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Every fan base has them, there are a handful of cats fans who will blame not playing finals at home or whatever but it’s been that way for over a century, who cares, if we are good enough we will win wherever so it’s pretty irrelevant. Some of our recruiting hasn’t been good, I can absolutely cop that, equally we’ve picked up players like Stewart and Kelly who provided unbelievable bang for buck, Henderson was very underrated, Tuohy has been great, so has Smith. Guys like Mitch Clark, Aaron Black, Josh Jenkins were a bust - but hey, at the time we NEEDED to find some support for Hawkins so we can only find that support from who is available. It didn’t work. Big deal.
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Kennedy requested a trade to WC did he? Judd was delisted by WC was he?
There are two people in that list that stated they were keen on the lifestyle.
The rest is bullshit you're shoe-horning to fit the narrative. But nice try.
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True but probably an advantage given they are the only team in that situation
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I don't know the ins and outs of it all, but the go home factor would have been part of it for Kennedy and he turned out to be (well, always was) pretty good.
Who the hell wants to buy property in Adelaide
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No one's saying those are irrelevant, but you can't deny you get a significant advantage for the reasons I mentioned.
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I can and will. What’s the difference between any of those advantages and the advantages available to every other club.
A bigger, colder, Bunbury with worse beaches.
In all seriousness: The place took a significant hit with the decline of cars and other industry. It’s got some rough neighbourhoods. But it’s always had some nice areas and 2 very fancy private schools that attract wealthy kids from all over the state. And government investment and Melbourne getting way too big and crowded has seen the region bounce back. The Geelong town centre isn’t making too many tourism must see lists but parts of the town and region are very nice.
The surf coast - whilst cold and awful weather wise for a lot of the time - has always been a draw card and Geelong is the gateway to that area and the Bellarine peninsula. Cafes, wineries, restaurants, beaches, national parks etc.
Most afl players settle down quickly and then are pretty happy to train, hit the surf, hit up a local cafe and go about their business fairly quietly. The Geelong region offers that.
Farms are big tax breaks for wealthy people. Expect to see others follow the lead of Hawkins and Cameron there.
But the Bombers are just about based in farm land too, so you can’t say other clubs aren’t a chance to do similar.
The Saints saw Seaford as a huge disadvantage. I’d argue they didn’t move far enough or stick it out long enough. Had they moved to Mornington and even got a game or two in that region they’d put themselves in with a chance of being the go home team for the Mornington Peninsula talent.
Tom Lynch and Max Gawn have done the sea change down to the peninsula. I could see others doing the same. The biggest issue there is the house and land prices are astronomical. But lifestyle wise it’s the same advantages the Cats get.
I’d love to know more about the Cats and 3rd party deals. Selwood’s the Auskick ambassador. Danger’s everywhere. Rumours of cats past players in housing development have been around for a while. Geelong aren’t the biggest club but they’re a big fish in a small pond and have been so successful for so long that they’re a sound investment. Not saying it’s not all above board but it’s a way to keep an advantage rolling
But the Bombers are just about based in farm land too, so you can’t say other clubs aren’t a chance to do similar.
The Saints saw Seaford as a huge disadvantage. I’d argue they didn’t move far enough or stick it out long enough. Had they moved to Mornington and even got a game or two in that region they’d put themselves in with a chance of being the go home team for the Mornington Peninsula talent.
Tom Lynch and Max Gawn have done the sea change down to the peninsula. I could see others doing the same. The biggest issue there is the house and land prices are astronomical. But lifestyle wise it’s the same advantages the Cats get.
I’d love to know more about the Cats and 3rd party deals. Selwood’s the Auskick ambassador. Danger’s everywhere. Rumours of cats past players in housing development have been around for a while. Geelong aren’t the biggest club but they’re a big fish in a small pond and have been so successful for so long that they’re a sound investment. Not saying it’s not all above board but it’s a way to keep an advantage rolling
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That’s all pretty fair, it doesn’t offer the sort of media and post footy opportunities that come via that avenue that Melbourne does though and if you’re an ex footballer in Melbourne there’s really nothing at all to stop you getting some sort of role with one of the clubs there given how many there are
Not true, we werent happy Ottens wanted to leave full stop, had nothing to do with Geelong. Would have been the same if he went to St Kilda.
Geelong supporters were the ones who started this Geelong - Richmond dislike. I can even pin point when it happened. The 2017 qualifying final. We celebrated the win a little too hard, we finally beat your mob unfortunately and you all got your noses out of place over it and its been that way ever since.
Probably the same way the Hawthorn - Geelong dislike started. Seems like a common theme there.
This thread is actually stupid, Geelong has finally found something for their benefit, good luck to them. Its no different to other teams in the competition using things to their advantage, Sydney have a great academy, Perth teams have 2 teams in a whole footy mad state, Collingwood & Richmond have huge supporter bases and play home games at the G. We all have something that works in our favour that only comes out when people want to whinge and have a sook because their teams have turned to shit.
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Both Fremantle and Port Adelaide are suburbs of Perth and Adelaide. Last I checked Geelong isn't a suburb of Melbourne
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You get a home ground advantage in Geelong, plus a neutral game in Melbourne. How's that hard to figure out?
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