Because it feels like some cop was paid $100 to look the other way while someone climbed on top of an open roof kind of off?
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Because it feels like some cop was paid $100 to look the other way while someone climbed on top of an open roof kind of off?
Maybe. I won’t be surprised if more comes to light.
Well there's either some gross negligence at play (which I tend to think) or there's some inside nefarious activity going on.
The issue here is that even if it's the first it makes it too easy for people to think the second.
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If Steve Bannon thought that his worst MAGA/Trump Political fear was that Trump would be assassinated, then on the flipside, Bannon's biggest and wettest dream, would probably have to be a failed assassination attempt on Trump at an election rally, that only leaves Trump with a a minor physical injury. Just like what happened today.
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I wasn't suggesting or even insinuating that this was a successful deliberate attempt at a miss.
I would have posted it in the conspiracy sub-forum if that's what I meant.
Just proposing that Team Bannon got very lucky today.
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Greg Sheridan has an epiphany today on this event.
'Whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger, the famous song lyric says.
I’ve always thought that particular lyric to be utter nonsense.
Except, perhaps, in American presidential politics. If someone shoots you and you don’t die, it does indeed make you stronger.'
'Whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger, the famous song lyric says.
I’ve always thought that particular lyric to be utter nonsense.
Except, perhaps, in American presidential politics. If someone shoots you and you don’t die, it does indeed make you stronger.'
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From the NYTimes on the gunmans identity:
"The gunman who attempted to assassinate former President Donald J. Trump at a rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday was identified by the F.B.I. as Thomas Matthew Crooks, a 20-year-old from Bethel Park, Pa.,
The gunman did not have a criminal history reflected in Pennsylvania’s public court records, and officials said they had not identified a motive. A voter-registration record showed that Mr. Crooks was registered as a Republican, though federal campaign-finance records show he donated $15 to the Progressive Turnout Project, a liberal voter turnout group, through the Democratic donation platform ActBlue in January 2021.
Early on Sunday morning, law-enforcement officers had closed down all roads leading toward the home of the suspect’s family in Bethel Park, south of Pittsburgh and about an hour’s drive from the site of the rally in Butler. Numerous relatives did not respond to messages seeking comment."
"The gunman who attempted to assassinate former President Donald J. Trump at a rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday was identified by the F.B.I. as Thomas Matthew Crooks, a 20-year-old from Bethel Park, Pa.,
The gunman did not have a criminal history reflected in Pennsylvania’s public court records, and officials said they had not identified a motive. A voter-registration record showed that Mr. Crooks was registered as a Republican, though federal campaign-finance records show he donated $15 to the Progressive Turnout Project, a liberal voter turnout group, through the Democratic donation platform ActBlue in January 2021.
Early on Sunday morning, law-enforcement officers had closed down all roads leading toward the home of the suspect’s family in Bethel Park, south of Pittsburgh and about an hour’s drive from the site of the rally in Butler. Numerous relatives did not respond to messages seeking comment."
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Biden is currently rated a 14% chance of winning, Trump 67%, other candidates make up the rest.
53 million dollars already traded on the market, so it's pretty sharp and accurate as to where we're at currently.
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Recommend this X thread of 21 tweets by a claimed Presidential Security Pro.
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I found it interesting that one of the SS officers who came in to protect trump was short and offered practically no coverage of of his head or face
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Gotta protect the Drumpf family jewels.
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I'm guessing affiliated with the Incel movement.
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There's an interview with a classmate from his high school doing the rounds now.
Loner, bullied, etc etc.
Fits the MO of most school shooters. Ready access to firearms, wearing a pre-gun militia group T shirt. There are probably hundreds if not thousands of this type of kid in the US right now, hence weekly if not daily mass shootings. Legally obtained AR15 by all accounts too.
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Some more reported facts on Crooks and this case.
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the AR-15 rifle he used belonged to his father, and they were trying to determine whether he took the weapon without the older man’s knowledge. The elder Crooks assumed his son had gone to a gun range on Saturday, but became concerned when he couldn’t reach him and called police after news of the shooting
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Investigators found rudimentary explosive devices in Crooks’s car parked near the rally in Butler, Pa., and found bomb-making materials at his family’s home, one hour to the south, said Federal Bureau of Investigation officials, who were working to determine what they were made of and if they were viable.
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that they hadn’t found any of the kind of writings or manifestos
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FBI agents were urgently working to get access to Crooks’s cellphone, which they had shipped to the bureau’s lab at Quantico, Va
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Crooks hadn’t been on the FBI’s radar as a possible threat before the shooting, and investigators had found no indications of mental-health issues
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He appeared to have little social-media presence or much record of political activism. Crooks appeared to have an account on Discord, a social-media outlet popularized by videogame enthusiasts, but hadn’t used it much. He hadn’t posted with the account in months, a spokeswoman for the platform said, adding that Discord had removed Crooks’s account based on its off-platform behavior policy.
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“He never outwardly spoke about his political views or how much he hated Trump or anything,” said Sarah D’Angelo, another classmate of Crooks
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'CBS reports Crooks had been a member of a Pennsylvania gun club for the past year.
“a member of the Clairton Sportsmen’s Club,” the club’s president Bill Sellitto told the network.'
www.cbsnews.com
'Crooks graduated from the Community College of Allegheny County in May 2024 with an Associate in Science degree in Engineering Science, a spokesperson for the college confirmed to CBS News. Crooks also worked at Bethel Park Skilled Nursing and Rehabilitation Center as a dietary aide, according to the facility's administrator. '
www.cbsnews.com
'The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said its agents were on the scene of the shooting within minutes and helped identify the shooter.
The ATF's National Tracing Center traced the gun using records from a dealer that had gone out of business, an ATF spokesperson told CBS News. Results were provided to the FBI and Secret Service in less than 30 minutes and helped identify the shooter.'
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'...
the AR-15 rifle he used belonged to his father, and they were trying to determine whether he took the weapon without the older man’s knowledge. The elder Crooks assumed his son had gone to a gun range on Saturday, but became concerned when he couldn’t reach him and called police after news of the shooting
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Investigators found rudimentary explosive devices in Crooks’s car parked near the rally in Butler, Pa., and found bomb-making materials at his family’s home, one hour to the south, said Federal Bureau of Investigation officials, who were working to determine what they were made of and if they were viable.
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that they hadn’t found any of the kind of writings or manifestos
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FBI agents were urgently working to get access to Crooks’s cellphone, which they had shipped to the bureau’s lab at Quantico, Va
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Crooks hadn’t been on the FBI’s radar as a possible threat before the shooting, and investigators had found no indications of mental-health issues
...
He appeared to have little social-media presence or much record of political activism. Crooks appeared to have an account on Discord, a social-media outlet popularized by videogame enthusiasts, but hadn’t used it much. He hadn’t posted with the account in months, a spokeswoman for the platform said, adding that Discord had removed Crooks’s account based on its off-platform behavior policy.
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“He never outwardly spoke about his political views or how much he hated Trump or anything,” said Sarah D’Angelo, another classmate of Crooks
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“a member of the Clairton Sportsmen’s Club,” the club’s president Bill Sellitto told the network.'
Trump rally shooter identified as Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20-year-old Pennsylvania man. Here's what we know so far.
Former President Trump was injured in a shooting at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. The FBI has identified the gunman as 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks.
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Live updates: FBI, Secret Service investigating motive of Trump rally shooter
Former President Donald Trump said Sunday he looks "forward to speaking to our Great Nation this week from Wisconsin." President Biden is addressing the nation in Oval Office address.
www.cbsnews.com
The ATF's National Tracing Center traced the gun using records from a dealer that had gone out of business, an ATF spokesperson told CBS News. Results were provided to the FBI and Secret Service in less than 30 minutes and helped identify the shooter.'
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The Australian Newspaper is now accurately reporting what Crooks was wearing when killed. (Shorts casual wear and not military fatigues).
'5 minutes ago'
'Crooks was photographed after being shot and killed in cream-coloured cargo-style shorts with a belt and a grey shirt bearing the logo of a popular YouTube channel called Demolition Ranch, which features videos demonstrating how to use certain guns and test their effectiveness.'
Meanwhile the Daily Telegraph is still to catch up on this.
'July 15, 2024 - 11:40AM'
'Bystander footage captured in the aftermath of the gunfire shows what appears to be a dead man in light-coloured military fatigues splayed out on a rooftop a few hundred feet from the rally stage.'
'5 minutes ago'
'Crooks was photographed after being shot and killed in cream-coloured cargo-style shorts with a belt and a grey shirt bearing the logo of a popular YouTube channel called Demolition Ranch, which features videos demonstrating how to use certain guns and test their effectiveness.'
Meanwhile the Daily Telegraph is still to catch up on this.
'July 15, 2024 - 11:40AM'
'Bystander footage captured in the aftermath of the gunfire shows what appears to be a dead man in light-coloured military fatigues splayed out on a rooftop a few hundred feet from the rally stage.'
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I heard them say that a Cop saw him and went up there, but retreated when the guy pointed the gun at him, then he started to fire.
Sqotty from office works
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Secret service stated Trump never have got hit if he listened to protectors.
Instead he ignored them as they yelled "Donald duck" several times Trump thought they were making fun of him and didn't bother paying attention to them.
Instead he ignored them as they yelled "Donald duck" several times Trump thought they were making fun of him and didn't bother paying attention to them.
There's always that kid who steals someone else's joke but uses it days after it was already plastered everywhere.
Maybe he didn’t shoot him
Ah Oh, not the mob again?!
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The below reports would rule out Crooks having hidden inside the manufacturing building overnight.
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'Several people at the rally reported to local officers that Crooks was acting suspiciously and pacing near the magnetometers, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorised to discuss the investigation. Officers were then told Crooks was climbing a ladder, the official said. Officers searched for him but were unable to find him before he made it to the roof, the official added.'
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'Gunman first came to the attention of authorities while acting strangely outside Trump event'
'Updated July 15, 2024 — 4.16pm'first published July 14, 2024 — 10.42pm'Several people at the rally reported to local officers that Crooks was acting suspiciously and pacing near the magnetometers, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorised to discuss the investigation. Officers were then told Crooks was climbing a ladder, the official said. Officers searched for him but were unable to find him before he made it to the roof, the official added.'
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Looks u17 in that pic?
At least 3 years ago I guess. Maybe a few more.
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18 IIRC.
