Donald Trump Rally Shootings - Two Dead Trump Injured

[JackNah_8]

I'm actually leaning away from the conspiracy and toward complete and utter incompetence from the SS.

Agree. Incompetent SS that had no idea what to do in this situation

 

[jason_recliner]

really?

Yes, really. What investigation had been completed at the time of that post and found her to be culpable?

 

[jason_recliner]

Best and the brightest?

You should watch Jay Leno's Garage from last week - featured the Presidential limo. I was surprised one of the guys was not a former SEAL or CIA special ops or whatever (unless he lied), but a former mechanic. Nothing wrong with him, both seemed bright enough, but I figured you'd have to be highly decorated former military or intelligence to even get a foot in the door.

 

[jason_recliner]

... wouldnt be hard to guess where her priorities lay when organising which agents went where.

Yep, you'd hope sitting senior, very powerful members of government take precedent over civilian electoral candidates.

 

[BFew]

Or erect a temp structure or vehicle with a platform in front of and adjoining to the building

Here's a republican rally event merchandisor (Lori Levi), who was working at the Rally on Saturday, explaining how line of sight risks are usually blocked by huge vehicles at events like this.

 

[BFew]

Across various social media forums, one of the common questions that is being asked, is that now that it appears that there was a potential threat at the event before Trump went on stage, why was he allowed to go on stage?

 

[BFew]

Last photo of Thomas Crooks taken by Secret Service

A photo of would-be assassin Thomas Crooks, that was circulated to law enforcement before the crazed gunman attempted to kill ex-president Donald Trump , has been released publicly.

www.dailymail.co.uk

'Thomas Crooks pictured almost an hour before he shot Trump: Sniper identified gunman acting suspiciously checking his cell phone and a rangefinder at rally when they took photo'​

'PUBLISHED: 20:08 AEST, 17 July 2024 | UPDATED: 23:16 AEST, 17 July 2024
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Security service officials had would-be assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks on their radar for almost an hour before he shot Donald Trump, a new image reveals.

A photograph showing the 20-year-old sniper appearing to crawl on the ground while scouring the area was circulated to law enforcement as a suspicious sighting at 5:30pm the Butler
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newly-released images also show a bicycle owned by Crooks which was recovered close to the scene ...
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The gunman was also acting strangely around the metal detectors that attendees were forced to walk through before entering the event grounds. Witnesses said that Crooks was furiously checking his phone and operating a hunting range finder.

He attempted entry around this point but set the detector off and was refused, sources said. (contradicts earlier reports)
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Trump took to the stage at 6:03 pm, an hour behind schedule. (maybe this explains why there was no further delay because of the possible threat from Crook)

 

[BFew]

18 IIRC.

Daily Mail has a caption to this pic that says
'This 2021 photo provided by Bethel Park School District showsThomas Matthew Crooks'

This would make him around 17yo in that pic (approx. 3 years ago)

Last photo of Thomas Crooks taken by Secret Service

A photo of would-be assassin Thomas Crooks, that was circulated to law enforcement before the crazed gunman attempted to kill ex-president Donald Trump , has been released publicly.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Proeagle]

There was a threat on Monday too near the Republican convention.

An armed man was arrested near the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee on Monday. The man was carrying an AK-47 pistol and wearing a ski mask. Police found the gun and a full magazine in his tactical bag. It is still unclear what his intentions were.The man, who is 21 years old, was arrested on the 1200 block of N. 11th Street. He did not have a concealed weapon license in Wisconsin or any other state. Charges are pending review by the Milwaukee County District Attorney’s Office.Security concerns have been raised at the RNC, with another incident where a man was shot and killed by police just 2 miles from Fiserv Forum. The man was reportedly brandishing a knife.

 

[jason_recliner]

Daily Mail has a caption to this pic that says
'This 2021 photo provided by Bethel Park School District showsThomas Matthew Crooks'

This would make him around 17yo in that pic (approx. 3 years ago)

Last photo of Thomas Crooks taken by Secret Service

A photo of would-be assassin Thomas Crooks, that was circulated to law enforcement before the crazed gunman attempted to kill ex-president Donald Trump , has been released publicly.

www.dailymail.co.uk

17, 18, who cares? The PoS wasn't getting laid either way.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Whatever the truth is, can't hide from some epic failures here. The conspiracy theories are out of control though - there doesn't seem to be any 'event' that doesn't get the conspiracy treatment these days.

There’s people saying he wasn’t even shot at. It gets a bit crazy.

I wouldn’t rule out a conspiracy but it’s pretty clear that old mate was shooting at him and attempting to kill him - any conspiracy is a step back from there.

 

[Proeagle]

Now this is funny.

 

[BFew]

perhaps he needs to reconsider holding rallies in areas which cannot be property secured.

Exactly what I was thinking too.

 

[BFew]

IMO, after the last week, Trump doesn’t need any more rallies to win the presidency

Tell everyone it’s currently too dangerous for him, and his team and supporters to go out anywhere to rally.

Just say he can’t rely on SS anymore to protect him, rally workers, attendees and buildings and people living and working close to rally venues, until his administration is in charge of them.

 

[Bostonian]

IMO, after the last week, Trump doesn’t need any more rallies to win the presidency

Tell everyone it’s currently too dangerous for him, and his team and supporters to go out anywhere to rally.

Just say he can’t rely on SS anymore to protect him, rally workers, attendees and buildings and people living and working close to rally venues, until his administration is in charge of them.

He'll win more votes though by keeping on turning up in public.

 

[Ballarat Bob]

He won't be able to stop himself from appearing in public his ego will be even more out of control now.

 

[jason_recliner]

He won't be able to stop himself from appearing in public his ego will be even more out of control now.

Yep.

Lincoln....

Ghandi....

JFK...

Luther King...



ME!!!

 

[Kurve]

Okay, this is interesting.

CHICAGO -- Thomas Matthew Crooks, the suspected gunman in the assassination attempt on Donald Trump last Saturday, searched on his phone for the dates of the former president's rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, and for dates of the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, sources familiar with the investigation told ABC News.

Trump rally shooter searched on phone for dates of Democratic National Convention in Chicago

Thomas Matthew Crooks, the suspected gunman in the assassination attempt on Donald Trump, searched on his phone for the dates of the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, sources familiar with the investigation told ABC News.

abc7chicago.com

 

[JackNah_8]

SS boss under pressure

 

[Kurve]

SS boss under pressure

I think it will turn out that while she holds all the responsibility for the former President's safety, that the area Crooks was in, was under the control of local law enforcement with there being more than one opportunity for them to grab him on suspicions before he even got on to the roof.

 

[Kurve]

Trump was lucky he was only nicked and he was out and about again next morning playing golf, others were not so lucky, an onlooker was killed and a 20 yo shooter who appeared to have a really bright future is dead with the public this far, absolutely clueless as to why he did it.

 

[skipper kelly]

Any truth to the rumour that Cheatle is gunning for a job with the AFL?

 

[Chief]

SS boss under pressure

Look at them eagerly follow her to be seen in public berating her. Pure theatre.

 

[JackNah_8]

Trump was lucky he was only nicked and he was out and about again next morning playing golf, others were not so lucky, an onlooker was killed and a 20 yo shooter who appeared to have a really bright future is dead with the public this far, absolutely clueless as to why he did it.

Exactly, don't know why 2o yr old decided to go after ex President.

 

[Pamcake1]

Trump was lucky he was only nicked and he was out and about again next morning playing golf, others were not so lucky, an onlooker was killed and a 20 yo shooter who appeared to have a really bright future is dead with the public this far, absolutely clueless as to why he did it.

The NYTimes is reporting no 'clear motive'
The comments section is facinating with most posing the motive is bullying and him wanting to be famous a la Reagan, Lennon's assassination attempts.
Below quotes part of an NYTimes article that has been edited to comply with BF posting conditions:

• July 17, 2024

F.B.I. officials told members of Congress on Wednesday that the gunman who tried to kill former President Donald J. Trump used his cellphone and other devices to search images of Mr. Trump and President Biden, along with an array of public figures.
The 20-year-old gunman, Thomas Matthew Crooks of Bethel Park, Pa., also looked up dates of Mr. Trump’s appearances and the Democratic National Convention, according to people on two conference calls held to answer lawmakers’ questions.
And, at least once, his browsing history signaled concerns about his own mental state. He also seems to have previewed his attack on Steam, a gaming platform he frequented, telling fellow gamers he planned to make his “premiere” on July 13, the day of the shooting.
The disclosures, made during private briefings to lawmakers by the F.B.I. and the head of the embattled Secret Service, offered the most complete portrait so far of a would-be assassin with no criminal history, or even clearly discernible political beliefs, who came close to killing Mr. Trump. Still, no clear motive for the attack has emerged.

The official assessment aligned with recollections of people who knew him. Several former classmates have said they never heard the gunman express any particular political ideology. But Vincent Taormina, a former classmate who said he attended middle school and high school with the gunman, said in an interview that Mr. Crooks showed a general disdain for politicians in both parties.
He recalled one instance when the two were in seventh grade. During a classroom political debate, Mr. Taormina voiced his support for Mr. Trump. Mr. Crooks seemed incredulous.
“He says, ‘Aren’t you Hispanic? And you like Trump?’” Mr. Taormina said. “He said, ‘That’s a little stupid.’”
Mr. Taormina brushed off the encounter, and had few other interactions with Mr. Crooks. But he disputed other classmates’ accounts that the gunman had been bullied or had been a loner, saying that he was intelligent and had his own small group of friends.
“I did not know him personally or as a friend, but he was not bullied, he was not a recluse,” Mr. Taormina said.

The F.B.I. has been scouring Mr. Crooks’s possessions since the shooting on Saturday — including two phones and at least one laptop — for clues about his motive. So far, they have found no indication that Mr. Crooks, who was a registered Republican, had strong partisan political views one way or another, bureau officials told lawmakers.
Nor have they uncovered any evidence of co-conspirators or connections to foreign actors, two top bureau officials said during the tense calls in which members of the House and Senate demanded answers about a nearly catastrophic failure to safeguard Mr. Trump.
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Officials singled out some of the searches on one of his cellphones, saying that he had looked up “major depressive disorder,” according to a person on the calls and another briefed on its contents.
Mr. Crooks seems to have been on good terms with his parents, who are both counselors, but they were not closely involved in the day-to-day details of his life, officials said.

Over the last several months, the gunman received multiple packages, including several that were marked “hazardous material,” according to a federal law enforcement memo obtained by The New York Times. Federal officials reviewed his shipping history after they discovered three explosive devices connected to him, the memo said. One device was found in his home, and two others were found in his car parked near the rally.
Investigators discovered two improvised explosive devices in the would-be assassin’s car that used a radio-controlled initiation system intended for commercial fireworks demonstrations.
While the briefing on Wednesday filled in some blanks, it left many questions unanswered. Federal law enforcement officials are puzzled and exasperated by the lack of evidence on the gunman’s two phones, one of which was found by his body on the roof of a warehouse outside the security perimeter of the rally, the other discovered during a search of his house.
F.B.I. officials, speaking on the calls, suggested that his search history indicated he was broadly interested in powerful and famous people, without any obvious ideological or partisan pattern.
Among the other prominent figures the gunman searched for using one of his phones, besides Mr. Trump and Mr. Biden: the F.B.I. director, Christopher A. Wray; Attorney General Merrick B. Garland; and a member of the British royal family, according to two officials with knowledge of the situation, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the matter publicly.

Mr. Wray, who was also on the calls, went out of his way to caution that the investigation was still in its early stages.