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[Addy23]

Do you really think that if Melbourne were to draft a tall they would be even close to ready to make an impact next season?

Tauru might get a game but next to no chance that Armstrong will.

Either would have nearly zero influence on Melbourne playing finals next season.

Midfielder a certainty at pick 5 and hopefully another mid at pick 9.

I think either would have a better chance of having an impact than Jefferson and Kentfield tbh

 

[Addy23]

I reckon Smillie and Armstrong would be a better combo then Tauru and Allan

In terms of going mid first then KPP at 9

Depends, the reason why Melbourne are interested in Allan is because of his defensive work and they've missed a Brayshaw type in their midfield which Allan can provide whilst also having offensive flow (although not a great kick). Would Smilie do that? Not sure

 

[Fear The Beard]

I reckon Smillie and Armstrong would be a better combo then Tauru and Allan

In terms of going mid first then KPP at 9

No thanks.

FOS or Langford at pick 5. No way we overlook one of them in favour of Smillie.

 

[The Nostradamus]

No thanks.

FOS or Langford at pick 5. No way we overlook one of them in favour of Smillie.

FOS will be gone by then assuming picks stay as they are

But sure my point still stands in terms of going mid then KPP for 5 and 9

(Langford and Armstrong over Tauru and Allan)

 

[Rich01]

We could be all in on FOS and just waiting for an offer that turns our heads for a crack at who would be the clear number 1 in terms of needs for our midfield. He's a high impact per possession mid who kicks it well. IE: a need to stop the turnovers and lock the ball in our F50 more.

Perhaps. I haven’t heard you are all in on FOS though. Perhaps it’s the common denominator of looking to trade down to 4 or 6 and your liking of Tauru that links him there.

Not sure why you’d be mucking around looking to trade down if you were all in on FOS. Just keep pick two, don’t seek any trade downs and pick the bloke there.

It would be a decent play, but considering Norths reported behaviour in seeking a trade down, I’m not sure if it points to this being their number one target.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Perhaps. I haven’t heard you are all in on FOS though. Perhaps it’s the common denominator of looking to trade down to 4 or 6 and your liking of Tauru that links him there.

Not sure why you’d be mucking around looking to trade down if you were all in on FOS. Just keep pick two, don’t seek any trade downs and pick the bloke there.

It would be a decent play, but considering Norths reported behaviour in seeking a trade down, I’m not sure if it points to this being their number one target.

I think it’s cos we are considering are multiple firsts better than having just one of Lalor/FOS

 

[Rich01]

I think it’s cos we are considering are multiple firsts better than having just one of Lalor/FOS

How does conversing with Adelaide to trade down to 4 work with that thinking?

 

[The Nostradamus]

How does conversing with Adelaide to trade down to 4 work with that thinking?

Multiple picks in that scenario

We get their F2 and use our F2 with theirs to trade into getting a first rounder

Or just trade their f2 into this years draft for a second rounder

Eg FOS vs Tauru and a second rounder

 

[stavro#4]

Good morning Stavro

Fair bit of wishful thinking going on here.

No way Melbourne are not taking a mid. They need mids more than anyone.

If North want Tauru with our first we will take St Kilda's offer of 7 + F1 for 2 - which is what I hope we do.
However, we have consistently said we only want to slide back two or three spots, ie. not out of the range of the top tier mids. The slide to 4 would give us an extra f2 and allow us to use our F1 + F2 to try and trade back into this draft for a tall. This is the stuff of my nightmares, but it is what I think we are doing. Any chance you guys could sweeten your offer a tad to save the day?

And if this was even remotely the case, don’t you think my club would have traded up already?

What’s likely is that reports 4-5 days out from the draft are zeroing in on the correct outcome and the biggest bits of intel we have had in the last 48 hours are the crows trying to land Jagga at 2 and Tauru at either 4 to North but definitely Melbourne at 5.

Even if he is who my club takes at 7. He is arguably the biggest ceiling prospect next to Smillie. He was dominant on the stretch home for Gippsland.

Now, I still imagine that if Twomey lists the above tomorrow that there will still be fans like yourself who say it’s not true.

Either way and I’m repeating myself here. My club is very well positioned at 7. Mid or no mid.

8 is a different story and I hope it’s split.

 

[marcmurphy3]

I reckon the recent FOS to North links is just to give them some leverage in a trade down with Adelaide. If everyone knows they take Tauru regardless, they have none.

It's a pretty easy bluff to see through though. If FOS is who they want they just pick him at 2. They aren't going to trade down to 4 and potentially forgo their man just to get an F2 from Adelaide. The only way North trade down at that price is if they 100% know who they want at 2 will be there at 4, and that can only be Tauru.

Now I'm not saying, there is 0 chance North take another player (such as FOS). It could well happen. But this Pick 4 slide can only be linked to Tauru and the more likely it becomes the less likely it is North have their eye on anyone but him.

 

[The Nostradamus]

If no pick swaps and dees do likely go a mid first at 5 then take a KPP at 9

Not including bids
Then
1. Lalor/FOS
2. Lalor/FOS
3. Jagga/draper
4. Jagga/draper
5. Langford
6. Smillie
7.
Who do saints take?

 

[Addy23]

Multiple picks in that scenario

We get their F2 and use our F2 with theirs to trade into getting a first rounder

Or just trade their f2 into this years draft for a second rounder

Eg FOS vs Tauru and a second rounder

Adelaide don't have a F2. And they can't trade their F1 without getting a F2 back. Doubt they'll trade F1 in the first place.

 

[stavro#4]

If no pick swaps and dees do likely go a mid first at 5 then take a KPP at 9

Not including bids
Then
1. Lalor/FOS
2. Lalor/FOS
3. Jagga/draper
4. Jagga/draper
5. Langford
6. Smillie
7.
Who do saints take?

Tauru at 7 and 8 gets split.

 

[Fear The Beard]

And if this was even remotely the case, don’t you think my club would have traded up already?

What’s likely is that reports 4-5 days out from the draft are zeroing in on the correct outcome and the biggest bits of intel we have had in the last 48 hours are the crows trying to land Jagga at 2 and Tauru at either 4 to North but definitely Melbourne at 5.

Even if he is who my club takes at 7. He is arguably the biggest ceiling prospect next to Smillie. He was dominant on the stretch home for Gippsland.

Now, I still imagine that if Twomey lists the above tomorrow that there will still be fans like yourself who say it’s not true.

Either way and I’m repeating myself here. My club is very well positioned at 7. Mid or no mid.

8 is a different story and I hope it’s split.

Would you mind linking the intel that Melbourne will ‘definitely’ take Tauru at 5 if available?

 

[stavro#4]

I reckon the recent FOS to North links is just to give them some leverage in a trade down with Adelaide. If everyone knows they take Tauru regardless, they have none.

It's a pretty easy bluff to see through though. If FOS is who they want they just pick him at 2. They aren't going to trade down to 4 and potentially forgo their man just to get an F2 from Adelaide. The only way North trade down at that price is if they 100% know who they want at 2 will be there at 4, and that can only be Tauru.

Now I'm not saying, there is 0 chance North take another player (such as FOS). It could well happen. But this Pick 4 slide can only be linked to Tauru and the more likely it becomes the less likely it is North have their eye on anyone but him.

Worth adding.

For North to take Tauru at 2 or 4. It would imply someone else is ready to take him between 5-7 that prevents them from sliding further back for better draft assets.

 

[Addy23]

If no pick swaps and dees do likely go a mid first at 5 then take a KPP at 9

Not including bids
Then
1. Lalor/FOS
2. Lalor/FOS
3. Jagga/draper
4. Jagga/draper
5. Langford
6. Smillie
7.
Who do saints take?

Hopefully not on Lombard and Kako then take Tauru to replace Battle and then Bo Allan? Then Reid to Demons if they indeed want 2 mids. Armstrong to Tigers along with Trainor or Berry. Lindsay to Eagles. That's perhaps one way it falls.

 

[stavro#4]

Would you mind linking the intel that Melbourne will ‘definitely’ take Tauru at 5 if available?

If North Melbourne was to overlook Tauru at pick 2, he would not be expected to get past Melbourne at pick 5 given the Demons are big fans of the Gippsland Power high-flyer.

 

[Fear The Beard]

If North Melbourne was to overlook Tauru at pick 2, he would not be expected to get past Melbourne at pick 5 given the Demons are big fans of the Gippsland Power high-flyer.

Ah yes, seen that article. So not in the least way definitive.

Thank you.

 

[LB2Snake]

If North Melbourne was to overlook Tauru at pick 2, he would not be expected to get past Melbourne at pick 5 given the Demons are big fans of the Gippsland Power high-flyer.

Melb playing slippery buggers. Might work though.

 

[stavro#4]

Ah yes, seen that article. So not in the least way definitive.

Thank you.

As I said, it’s the biggest bit of intel in the last few days and it’s pretty close to the draft now.

Fans might not agree. Doesn’t make it wrong and I’d argue if Twomey had you taking him at 5 you would still be saying the same thing.

 

[stavro#4]

Melb playing slippery buggers. Might work though.

I think it just proves your club isn’t going for some crazy reach and there is method to not looking to trade back further - if he is indeed the kid you want.

He appears to be a genuine top end prospect now.

 

[sr36]

Melbourne aren't taking him, they need mids. But I have no idea what Richmond are planning. If one of those teams do reach, it probably means someone we rate just as high has slid. We take them instead, or trade down again for Armstrong or Shanahan. Either way, we would still be better off than either using pick 2 or 4 on a surplus mid or Tauru. I know you rate Tauru in the top few, but I doubt North do.

Melbourne need everything. You wouldn't be confident that any of their top players will play much footy with the players from this cohort. These guys will play their best footy post May, Gawn, Salem, Viney. Kosi is always threatening to request a trade. God knows what happens with Clarry and Petracca.

They'll go who they perceive to be best available - probably mids, but I wouldn't rule out Tauru if he's available.

 

[Fear The Beard]

As I said, it’s the biggest bit of intel in the last few days and it’s pretty close to the draft now.

Fans might not agree. Doesn’t make it wrong and I’d argue if Twomey had you taking him at 5 you would still be saying the same thing.

Twomey is usually bang on with the first few selections in the Draft so if he has Tauru coming to Melbourne at 5 in his Phantom then I’ll believe it.

Until then I’m inclined to believe the general consensus that it will be a mid at pick 5.

 

[perplexed]

And if this was even remotely the case, don’t you think my club would have traded up already?

What’s likely is that reports 4-5 days out from the draft are zeroing in on the correct outcome and the biggest bits of intel we have had in the last 48 hours are the crows trying to land Jagga at 2 and Tauru at either 4 to North but definitely Melbourne at 5.

Even if he is who my club takes at 7. He is arguably the biggest ceiling prospect next to Smillie. He was dominant on the stretch home for Gippsland.

Now, I still imagine that if Twomey lists the above tomorrow that there will still be fans like yourself who say it’s not true.

Either way and I’m repeating myself here. My club is very well positioned at 7. Mid or no mid.

8 is a different story and I hope it’s split.

I don't know what we are thinking, but I know what we have done every time in the past. We have always gone best available, even when I've thought it against our interests to. This year we seem willing to drop two or three spots, but not four or five. To me that suggests we think we will get the same or a similar quality player at 5 as at 2, but not at 6 or 7. It doesn't suggest we are targeting Tauru, because we could drop down further and take him there. I would much rather we took Tauru at 4 than take a mid there, because it means we are less likely to do something stupid with our F1. I just don't think that is the plan.

 

[Nutjob]

Maybe, but if they go with Tauru at 5 they could still get one of Lalor, FOS, Smith, Draper, Smilie, Allan, Reid, Langford at 9 (I just listed 8 mids to say that one of them get to 9, not necessarily meaning Lalor will be there at 9 ).

They are also keen on Allan who is likely to be there at 9

They’re not going to reach for a tall at 5 and then take lesser valued mid at 9. It makes no sense. They need both types and they will pick best available at each pick.


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