DT Trading Discussion 2010 (Part 5)

[Rod Stroker]

Would Kornes to Montagna be considered too sideways/bad move?
Currently have Swan, Bartel, Gibbs, Cross, Kornes, Barlow(Chappy)

At first glance when I read that I thought gee he must be doing well if he's considering to off load his 6th mid who is averaging 101ppg. Then I realised that Judd is my 6th mid with an average of 106ppg

I'd look at it this way; Kornes to Monty is an increase of 13ppg for 52K. Could you spend that money elsewhere in your team to get a better return? The other question is whether you can afford to burn a trade on a move like that at this stage of the season when trades become even more valuable.

 

[jonesy86]

2 trades for me this week

Barlow > Montagna
JKT > McNeil

Had to do the McNeil one as I now only have 2 trades left and this saves me from a donut as Mitchell is going to miss and all 9 of my forwards are getting regular games.

 

[favourites]

I hope you haven't done them yet, JKT has 40odd touches and kicked 4 goals in the reserves, might be a straight swap.

 

[Galacticos]

I'm currently considering trading either

Option A
Nason->Strijk
Barlow->Swan

or

Option B
Webberley->Strijk
Barlow->Ablett, Chapman

Both trades will leave me with enough money to upgrade
Moles->Pavlich/Sylvia when the time is right.

Currently leaning towards Option A because I think Swan will score more points than Ablett but it sacrifices the security of having Nason as cover.

 

[Blues_FC]

I'm currently considering trading either

Option A
Nason->Strijk
Barlow->Swan

or

Option B
Webberley->Strijk
Barlow->Ablett, Chapman

Both trades will leave me with enough money to upgrade
Moles->Pavlich/Sylvia when the time is right.

Currently leaning towards Option A because I think Swan will score more points than Ablett but it sacrifices the security of having Nason as cover.

Option A is not a good option. If there's one lesson to be learned from DT, it's DO NOT CHASE POINTS. I can tell you this from experience. (Jono Brown #1 culprit).

Get rid of Webberley and keep Nason as bench cover. Barring injury, Nason will play out the year.

Ablett is at his best value of the year. Swan is close to his worst value for the year. It's a no-brainer.

Option B!

 

[Borgsta]

would Ablett be affordable if he weren't a little "off" at the moment?

isn't that the only reason he's an option

He certainly could be. You only need one low scoring game to end up at 450k. By saying he looks "off" I'm not referring to his scoring but more his play and his body. I think he will miss weeks in the run up to the finals and Monty is a better option for me at the moment.

 

[Borgsta]

Shuey looks like he could be back in 3-4 now so best move to off JKT.
.

where did you hear this?

 

[karls crew]

barlow for ablett or chapman?

Im not convinced that either of them wont miss a game or two on the way home however im leaning towards chapman as my midfield bench is weak and bringing in chapman i can use the DP with my forward line as extra coverage incase he does miss. There isn't really any other midfielders that stand out to me to trade in for barlow.

My midfield currently consists of: Swan, Montagna, Bartel, Boyd, Gibbs, Barlow (shuey, JKT)

 

[dav3]

where did you hear this?

from last week...

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/more-young-blood-set-for-eagles-backline-20100630-zlkj.html

Midfielder Luke Shuey is due to resume full training late next week or the week after following a bout of glandular fever.

"He needs a couple of weeks to get that (match-playing) condition and be ready to go," Worsfold said. "It's a slow process before he's ready to play (but) it's looking good."

good news for people like me who held onto him

 

[Cynic]

from last week...

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/more-young-blood-set-for-eagles-backline-20100630-zlkj.html



good news for people like me who held onto him

Lame for those who traded him last week fearing a Jimmy Bartel late withdrawal

 

[sthmelb_dimmies]

barlow for ablett or chapman?

My midfield currently consists of: Swan, Montagna, Bartel, Boyd, Gibbs, Barlow (shuey, JKT)

Jesus mate with that bench you must have been sweating on Bartel last week.

 

[karls crew]

Jesus mate with that bench you must have been sweating on Bartel last week.

haha yeh mate your not wrong. Truth be told if Kobe Stevens didn't get dropped i most probably would have brought him in last week. My mids are my only line really shallow on coverage so hopefully i can ride it out otherwise i may trade to avoid copping a zero.

 

[94_Eagles]

Shuey won't have any time to plumpen up so he's there purely as cover now.

Should I go:

A) Barlow -> Swan
Silvagni -> Kelly

or

B) Barlow -> GAJ/Monty
Silvagni -> Gilbert?

Thanks guys!

 

[happy_eagle]

Shuey won't have any time to plumpen up so he's there purely as cover now.

Should I go:

A) Barlow -> Swan
Silvagni -> Kelly

or

B) Barlow -> GAJ/Monty
Silvagni -> Gilbert?

Thanks guys!

B without a doubt

 

[94_Eagles]

B without a doubt

Thanks mate

Any other opinions?

 

[happy_eagle]

Go By Differences

I see Swan and Ablett (and Montagna) averaging very similar, Swan maybe 5 points higher
So Swan > Ablett/Monty, albeit marginaly
But Gilbert is averaging over 100, and whilst Kelly is still averaging a nice 94, The advantage you gain with Gilbert over Kelly, is in my opinion greater than the small loss you receive with Ablett/Monty over Swan

For what you are getting, Ablett (and Montagna) are massively under priced

 

[94_Eagles]

Yeah they are, but Swan is oh so tempting.

In any case, GAJ or Montel? Monty has a lot of Etihad games left where he could realistically get 130 in each. He also takes more marks and likes to kick a lot more than Gaz. Imma think i'll go him.

 

[Blues_FC]

My dilemma, with 5 trades left and 123K in the bank. Barlow and Martin are the only two players that I need to trade:

Option A
--------
Barlow -------> Ablett/Boyd
Martin -------> Simpson/Judd
+20K roughly

Option B
--------
Barlow -------> Simpson
Martin -------> Judd
+80K roughly

Option A gives me the potentially huge scores of Ablett/Boyd but doesn't leave me much in the kitty.

Option B gives me two reliable but lower scorers in the mids, but leaves me with 80K which I could potentially use to trade an injured FWD premium to Riewoldt in a few weeks.

 

[Scootyb]

Personally would go with Option A.
The scoring and potential Captaincy power of a Boyd/Ablett with the added consistency of Simpson is much more reliable than the 2 Carlton midfielders and possibly Riewoldt who is trying to regain touch and match fitness before finals.

 

[TheCerealKillee]

Didak, Franklin or Douglas for Ziebell?

I personally prefer Douglas, because he plays in my supported team =D

 

[snackpack]

Hi Everyone,

My side currentley has 5 trades left with 70K in the bank.

I am looking at trading in Matty Boyd for Jobe Watson but i am not 100% sure if i need to upgrade in any other areas first? Or if i should hold on to trades?

What are your thoughts? Suggestions would be much appreciated.

It is as follows

BACKS
Goodard,Hodge,Gilbert,Enright,Waters, Carrazzo, Shaw (Roberton,Strijk)

CENTRES
Swan,Ablett,Montagna, Bartel, Mitchell, Watson (Gysberts, Shuey)

RUCKS
Sandilands, Cox (Warnock, Lobbe)

FORWARDS
Chapman, S Johnson, O'Keefe, Giansiracusa, Betts, Goodes, Podsiadly (Gumbleton,Roberts)

 

[magpies03]

Hi Everyone,

My side currentley has 5 trades left with 70K in the bank.

I am looking at trading in Matty Boyd for Jobe Watson but i am not 100% sure if i need to upgrade in any other areas first? Or if i should hold on to trades?

What are your thoughts? Suggestions would be much appreciated.

It is as follows

BACKS
Goodard,Hodge,Gilbert,Enright,Waters, Carrazzo, Shaw (Roberton,Strijk)

CENTRES
Swan,Ablett,Montagna, Bartel, Mitchell, Watson (Gysberts, Shuey)

RUCKS
Sandilands, Cox (Warnock, Lobbe)

FORWARDS
Chapman, S Johnson, O'Keefe, Giansiracusa, Betts, Goodes, Podsiadly (Gumbleton,Roberts)

Personally mate i wouldnt do it yet! Theres still 8 rounds left!!!! Players are starting to drop like bowling pins. Your teams complete. Jobe has been outstanding in the last month but he hasnt been bad either. Id hold off for now and wait a few rounds. If your teams traveling well and you havent burned to many trades perhaps pull the pin. I rekon that trade is to sideways at this stage of the season tho with that many trades left.

 

[Axel.]

Didak, Franklin or Douglas for Ziebell?

I personally prefer Douglas, because he plays in my supported team =D

Franklin imo.

 

[oddsok]

So I've got both Barlow and Ziebell injured and will most likely cop a zero this week if I don't trade them both out. 6 trades, 75k. Link to team.

Option 1:
Barlow->Harvey
Ziebell->Davis/Dangerfield

Option 2:
Barlow->Chapman/Ablett/Montagna/Boyd etc.
Ziebell->O'Brien/TDL

Option 3:
Barlow->Chapman/Ablett/Montagna/Boyd etc.
Ziebell->David/Dangerfield

Option one and two both will give me enough money for my last upgrade in the backline. One will give me more DP flexibiblity and give me cover for the rest of the year, but slightly lower scoring potential. Two gives me the best scoring potential but worse cover for the year (might be OK once SJ and Hille are back because of Tippett). Three gives the best scoring potential but will force me to use an extra trade for my final upgrade.

 

[dewey13]

Grimes OUT

IN: Carazzo? Kelly? S Fisher? H Shaw?

Give people something else to put their mind to aside from Barlow