Dustin Martin

[roosaints]

Good game against a horrible team.

His last goal was a joke as he played for the free kick, which was pathetic.


Trengove and Scully are comfortably better players than him.

Lol. Slightly more than a good game from a second year player.

Richmond fans have desperately talked up Deledio and Cotchin over the years while others from their drafts out perform them but Martin is an absolute star in the making. Definitely one of the best young talents in the game.

 

[Ed_Gein]

Can see why Roos offered the Tigers pick 6 and 14 for 3 in the draft. Martin is a gun, would've loved him at the Swans, but happy with Rohan + Jetta all the same.

 

[tigerfan1961]

Your joking right? You do understand that GAJ is almost impossible to tackle? I can tell you there were at least 5 instances I saw live right in front of me at the Hawthorn Tigers game where Cotchin got absolutely smashed in one on ones. Martin on the other hand was consistently giving seasoned veterans like Hodge and Sewell some trouble. Cotchin will never be a game breaker imo. Martin has a ready made body for AFL and in a couple of years could be the most dominant mid in the game.

Understand what you are saying but geez, watch Cotchin at ball-ups/pack situations, his clearance work is a thing of beauty and he is rarely tackled. IMO, Martin will be a better player but Cotchin will also be an outstanding footballer.

 

[Kruges!]

The kid is a bloody superstar already. Tell ya what Richmond, you guys and girls are in for 10 or so awesome years through this lad, he's an absolute gem.

 

[tigerfansince86]

Now all we gotta do is put melbourne in their place.

 

[tap_my_scott]

He has never had and will never have a game as good as Tom Scullys 39 disposal game vs the Bulldogs last year.


Martin has already peaked, while Scully hasnt even warmed up.

 

[Spanish_Fly]

Dees supporters take deluded to a whole new level.

 

[mark_johnson#1]

He has never had and will never have a game as good as Tom Scullys 39 disposal game vs the Bulldogs last year.


Martin has already peaked, while Scully hasnt even warmed up.

if martin has peaked and can consistently produce 33 disposal 4 goal games then i would think that richmond would be very happy! it just means that they will get 10 years of his peak form rather than waiting 3-4 years for melbournes "superstars" to peak.

melbourne seem to be a very patient club..."KPP take more time to develop and require 4-5 years in the system before they produce" tell that to Hurley, Dixon, Pears, Davis etc

 

[Jentleman Geff]

Scully in the wet against the Dogs last year was arguably better. Martin looks the better of the 3 so far but I'd be surprised if all 3 don't become top shelf.

No way. 30+ possession, multi goal game > 39 possession 1 goal game, any day of the week.

 

[Phil McCreviss]

Understand what you are saying but geez, watch Cotchin at ball-ups/pack situations, his clearance work is a thing of beauty and he is rarely tackled. IMO, Martin will be a better player but Cotchin will also be an outstanding footballer.

Yeah I have watched him pretty closely in pack situations and I just don't rate him against bigger bodies. Again would like to reiterate that I think he has enormous talent but I think that Tiger's supporters inflate his value a tad. I will give you an example. Against the Hawks, we zoned off him and let him get the hard ball because we knew we could tackle him and bring him down. Interestingly we tried the same on Martin and it didn't work because he requires two players to bring him down (and even then still gets the ball out).

Cotchin's body shape is not exactly one which imposes on a contest. I also think his foot skills and decision making is not elite. He had some massive brain fades last night kicking to multiple North players when the game was in the balance.

Martin is a ready made footballer. Almost custom built for grunt work. He has a great physique, football brain and leadership qualities. Cotchin might be hard at it but he certainly doesn't worry me as an opposition supporter. Martin does.

 

[tigerfan1961]

He has never had and will never have a game as good as Tom Scullys 39 disposal game vs the Bulldogs last year.


Martin has already peaked, while Scully hasnt even warmed up.

One of the funniest posts I have ever read- will be even funnier if Scully walks to GWS!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[themarkedman72]

When the tigers took him in the draft I told a tigers mate they had their Hodge.

He is a tough competitor who will lead the club out of the wilderness.

Future captain. A total warrior.

 

[GiantForce]

Won't he look great in a GWS jumper?

 

[Simmonds2Hislop]

Lol. Slightly more than a good game from a second year player.

Richmond fans have desperately talked up Deledio and Cotchin over the years while others from their drafts out perform them but Martin is an absolute star in the making. Definitely one of the best young talents in the game.

Who? Rioli?

 

[AG]

No way. 30+ possession, multi goal game > 39 possession 1 goal game, any day of the week.

No it isn't. Each game has to be judged on it's own. In this case I'd probably lean towards Martin but there have been plenty of great midfield performances, even with no goals, that have been better than a 30+, multi goal game.

 

[Bazzar]

Scully in his 7th game - 39 disposals, 1 goal, BOG

Shame the Scull couldnt have kicked another three, then it would have been a better effort and maybe Melbourne would have won the game. 20 hanballs of good ol 1-2 to get a few more cheap possessions. He. looked good though

Martins BOG was the catalyst for the 4 points beside our name on the ladder today, what was the relevance of Scullys BOG?

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

if martin has peaked and can consistently produce 33 disposal 4 goal games then i would think that richmond would be very happy! it just means that they will get 10 years of his peak form rather than waiting 3-4 years for melbournes "superstars" to peak.

melbourne seem to be a very patient club..."KPP take more time to develop and require 4-5 years in the system before they produce" tell that to Hurley, Dixon, Pears, Davis etc

don't listen to tap my scott

he is the most biased of all melbourne supporters

patience is required

those four you listed, are basically the only kpp's to come in and have an instant impact and i would question how ready dixon is to be a consistent player even hurley is a bit up and down

dixon = big unit by the way... and i think he is almost 21

kpp's do take time to produce j riewoldt, j brown, j frawley, b fevola, m pavlich, j kennedy have all taken around 4 full seasons to show their worth

it's a well accept fact of football, if you don't agree... you're wrong

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Yes but Watts is a worry for you guys isn't he Could be your Tambling if he doesn't improve rapidly int eh next couple of years...

Scully and Trengove will be stars for you though.

no i'm not worried about watts at all

you see i actually recognize where he has come from and where he needs to go, and tbh... he is tracking exactly how i thought he would

rather then look at his draft position and assume he has to be an instant star

and why bring up watts?

 

[Jentleman Geff]

No it isn't. Each game has to be judged on it's own. In this case I'd probably lean towards Martin but there have been plenty of great midfield performances, even with no goals, that have been better than a 30+, multi goal game.

What was better about Scully's game? The low kick to handball ratio? The fact that of the six more possessions he had over Martin, they were all handballs.

Give me a contested ball winner that kicks the ball more than he handballs it, and hurts on the scoreboard, over a young Scott West.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

No way. 30+ possession, multi goal game > 39 possession 1 goal game, any day of the week.

33 possie 4 goal game versus winless Roos?

39 possie 1 goal games versus top 4 side western bulldogs in pouring rain?
(with a cross, boyd, cooney, griffen midfield)

.... context is important, scully's context just looks... better

those games look pretty even to me to be honest

 

[tap_my_scott]

What was better about Scully's game? The low kick to handball ratio? The fact that of the six more possessions he had over Martin, they were all handballs.
Give me a contested ball winner that kicks the ball more than he handballs it, and hurts on the scoreboard, over a young Scott West.

Or the fact it was in horrible conditions against a top 4 team and it was just his 6th game of AFL footy??

And Scully kicked a goal in that game by the way.

 

[Football Tragic]

no i'm not worried about watts at all

you see i actually recognize where he has come from and where he needs to go, and tbh... he is tracking exactly how i thought he would

rather then look at his draft position and assume he has to be an instant star

and why bring up watts?

Simply because you brought up Tambling. All clubs have draft concerns/mistakes. I hope Watts isn't one of your's

 

[HyperAgressiveDonk]

Yes he's a gun player. But if Richmond follow the path I think they will, he will want out in about 3 years. Because players of his ilk, don't like playing in teams with poor lists.

 

[Jentleman Geff]

Big deal when it was. Each game's 'greatness' should be rated on merit alone, not at what point in the career it happened. Martin's effort yesterday overshadows anything Scully has done thus far.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Simply because you brought up Tambling. All clubs have draft concerns/mistakes. I hope Watts isn't one of your's

actually a richmond supporter brought up tambling in a sentence about scully and trengove first

but you're a champion

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