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Traded Dylan Shiel [traded with future 2nd to Essendon for #9 and future 1st round pick]
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Make of that what you will
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Same as me, he's one of the most talented players in the comp entering his prime, there's no chance the Hawks first rounder would get it done IMO.
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Seems strange you'd offer him close to 1millpa then, doesn't it?
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Neither did Sam Mitchell
He goes where he wants. The deal will get done. Deals always get done unless amateurs are involved and they make ridiculous offers (see Adelaide and Gibbs a couple of years ago).
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Two sources and I was told many many weeks before it became known Dylan was thinking about jumping ship.
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That doesn’t mean anything, most people on the Essendon forum knew about Shiel long before as well.
Sources related to Shiel or just the industry?
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It's just the vibe.
On a serious note I was told way way before anyone on any boards knew.
Nothing definite at this stage. Apparently touring PP on Friday.
Have a lot more confidence in McGovern.
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Don't take it to the bank, have you not been following the Royal Commission?
Hide it under the bed instead.
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if they are just going to take hawks first rounder they might as well wait until next year and just get pretty much the same compensation pick when he leaves as a free agent.
essendons pick is about right.
essendons pick is about right.
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Manager on record today said it will be play out his contract at GWS or a Victorian club.
I think you'd have to read his comments as suggesting that Shiel will be playing his football in Victoria, just depends if it will be next season or the year after
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This has the Hawks written all over it. They are always quiet in the lead up and get the job done with little fuss.
Can't see Shiel going to a bottom 4 team. He struggled for years at GWS and copped his fair share of beltings.
Can't see Shiel going to a bottom 4 team. He struggled for years at GWS and copped his fair share of beltings.
How do they get it done? Assuming pick 14 isn't enough.
Can they trade a 2019 1st rounder?
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It wouldn't, plus he's a free agent next year anyway and they could just get a pick in the teens for him then as compo.
I would expect Hawthorn will need to give up at least a second rounder or player on top of our first rounder for exactly the reason you suggest. If he nominates us we need to make it look more attractive to take the deal now than wait for next year when the best they'll get without matching is likely an end-of-first-rounder (and it seems matching pretty much never happens, so that would be far and away the most likely scenario). When his manager says he'll play out his contract at GWS or come to Vic, I reckon he's pretty much saying he's chosen his preferred target club in Vic, and if GWS will not deal with them this year, he'll walk to them next year.
Not 100% confident that target is us yet, as it seems likely others might offer him more $'s which will be tempting for him, but if it is, I reckon we'll give a little more than a first rounder (hopefully not 2 first rounders), and get the deal done, allowing GWS to avoid getting less next year, and perhaps also helping them out with cap, if you believe that angle. I think the cap space is probably a secondary issue compared to his restricted FA status next year vs what GWS can get right now for him at the trade table.
Wouldn’t be surprised if it was our first and 2nd/ceglar/preuss with us paying some of their contract
Apparently yes they can, but I think they'd rather look at second rounders and players than part with two first rounders. Sounds like they are keen on an aggressive trade table driven rebuild, and not having a first rounder next year will make it difficult, although a number of free agents next year too which are basically free hits in terms of draft pick costs from the destination club's point of view (which is why we'd be spewing we appeared to have missed out on Lynch).
If it is the hawks id hope 2019 1st will be offered along with 2nd rounder this year to start . But it might well take this years first along with next years for shiel and gws 2nd . He isn't quite worth what Collingwood gave up for treloar due to age I would think
Would you consider shipping Burton off for an additional early pick?
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I reckon it'll be Hawks.
I would think pick 14 is good enough.
I would think pick 14 is good enough.
I wouldn't, but no idea what the club would do. I would think the only reason we'd think of trading Burton would be if we were scared he was getting homesick, and obviously sending him to NSW doesn't really match that case well (maybe a trade to a SA club in exchange for a pick to give GWS if he is homesick, but haven't really heard any whispers on that front).
We are trying to trade in elite level talent to make up for our long term lack of access to early draft picks, so I don't see us being keen trade out a player of Burton's quality. If its a player added to the #1 pick to get the deal done, I would think it would be more a value player that fills a perceived need for GWS without being as potentially top level as Burton could become. Not sure what type of player that would be given how stacked their list is.
Treloar was also runner up in the B&F that year, and not about to become a free agent. The fact that he wasn't contracted is IMO less relevant than the fact that the potential target clubs couldn't just wait for FA the next year to pry Treloar loose.
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The way I see it going...
He’ll want to go to Hawks.
GWS will only allow him to move to a club that could adequately compensate them. They won’t have any interest in pick 14 & future Hawks picks.
I think club & player will mutually decide to stick fat for the next 12 months & go again in free agency.
He’ll want to go to Hawks.
GWS will only allow him to move to a club that could adequately compensate them. They won’t have any interest in pick 14 & future Hawks picks.
I think club & player will mutually decide to stick fat for the next 12 months & go again in free agency.
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