Traded Dylan Shiel [traded with future 2nd to Essendon for #9 and future 1st round pick]

[Carl]

Blues amazing young list ..2018

Kruz 29 12 games played injured
Murphy 31 13 games played inj
Ed 29 21 games
Wright 29 21 games
Simmo 34 21 games
Thomas 31 20 games
Jones 28 17
Vets still doing all the heavy lifting .

Oh and Lobbe the back up to Kruz....29

Our problem is the bottom 10 players who averaged the most games for us this year are 18 to 20yo. We need more players around 23-27yo. Those old players are in the team to give us some experience, so we only lose by 10 goals instead of 20.

 

[Orange Agent]

Why on earth would you risk your chance at a flag just to go up a few spots in the draft, worst case next year when Shiel is a RFA you match the offer and make Carlton offer up a better pick.

We can't match and keep others. Too many contracts to deal next year, this makes it easier.

 

[YEMOC NAYR]

7 years is too much for me personally.. and I think he's a perfect fit for our list.
He'd be nearly earning 2mill more taking a contract with the blues or the saints. Doubt we'd get him.

Carlton securing him could open us up to get Setterfield though, which would be nice.

 

[Beer n Skittles]

7 years is too much for me personally.. and I think he's a perfect fit for our list.
He'd be nearly earning 2mill more taking a contract with the blues or the saints. Doubt we'd get him.

Carlton securing him could open us up to get Setterfield though, which would be nice.

What are the saints and blues offering?

Also just note your sig is out of date

 

[YEMOC NAYR]

What are the saints and blues offering?

Also just note your sig is out of date

I saw numbers by tom browne showing blues @ 1m p/a, saints @ 1.3. Hawks/dons @ 800k. He's the one who first spoke about shiel leaving months ago so I take abit of stock in that.

Good point. Cripps is a gun

 

[Beer n Skittles]

I saw numbers by tom browne showing blues @ 1m p/a, saints @ 1.3. Hawks/dons @ 800k. He's the one who first spoke about shiel leaving months ago so I take abit of stock in that.

Good point. Cripps is a gun

Thanks I saw some numbers thrown around in this thread but wasn't sure where they came from.

I'm alright with $1m pa for Shiel considering the 20% rise in TPP last year

 

[YEMOC NAYR]

Thanks I saw some numbers thrown around in this thread but wasn't sure where they came from.

I'm alright with $1m pa for Shiel considering the 20% rise in TPP last year

Yeah, with how your list is at the moment a fair chunk on one player aint a big deal. Especially if you front load. Point is 200k-500k extra over 7 years is big money to turn down.

 

[DallasCrane316]

Interesting

 

[SA Blue]

Yeah Carlton being super young is a bit of a myth, Melbourne probably fielded younger 22s on average this season and made a Preliminary Final.

How is it a myth? don't give me averages as they are the worst stat in this

 

[DapperJong]

Interesting

To me, this confirms he's going to the Hawks.

 

[SSSSSS]

So going to love it when these Hawthorn idiots are proved wrong and they miss out on Shiel and Wingard

7 years on a million + for a bloke with banged up shoulders.

He's all yours pal.

 

[SA HAWK]

Kreuzer can play into his early-mid 30s IMO.

That's outrageous.

 

[pinot]

7 years on a million + for a bloke with banged up shoulders.

He's all yours pal.

Thank you, you are so kind.

 

[pinot]

That's outrageous.

Well he is 29 now and turning 30 so eeaaasy. He is in his prime now.

 

[Navara79]

Interesting

Lol bs. At a corporate lunch but not one of the media have picked it up

 

[SA HAWK]

Well he is 29 now and turning 30 so eeaaasy. He is in his prime now.

Mid 30's i doubt very much.

 

[aussierulesrules]

There are some naive people here ...

He’s likely already made up his mind on which club he wants to join and is now doing the Chris Judd “2007 due diligence tour” by going through the motions until he can officially announce.

He can officially announce now though? GWS's season is over and there's no suggestion that he's going to Collingwood or West Coast.

Why play games when he can just get on with it?

 

[pinot]

Mid 30's i doubt very much.

Ruckmen peak 30-31 mate.. they play a couple of years longer than mids on average.

 

[YEMOC NAYR]

He can officially announce now though? GWS's season is over and there's no suggestion that he's going to Collingwood or West Coast.

Why play games when he can just get on with it?

It'll happen after GWS' bnf. Bank on it.

 

[Procrastinator35]

To me, this confirms he's going to the Hawks.

Tom Browne has already stated as much, saying we are his club of choice.

Another thing altogether whether or not GWS would be prepared to broker a deal with us though.....They'd no doubt prefer him to go to one of the Blues or Saints.

Be interesting to see if one of their 'god-father' offers can turn his head or not though....His manager is only doing his due diligence.

 

[Vindicater]

Said Hawthorn earl yt in this thread and sticking to it although if the Saints have really thrown him 1.3 million a year he would be mad to turn it down.

Still think that that is inflated though so think Hawks.

 

[HirdyLannister]

Ruckmen peak 30-31 mate.. they play a couple of years longer than mids on average.

Geez I'm looking forward to seeing Grundy when he peaks.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

To me, this confirms he's going to the Hawks.

How?

 

[Northernsoul74]

To me, this confirms he's going to the Hawks.

Why, who is this bloke?

 

[DapperJong]

How?

Why, who is this bloke?

Cos I'm ****ing legendary.