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Eagles flooded their own forward line and the swans were simply following their man.
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See timthetoolmans solution to the flood in the "Sam Newman..." post.
Pages 5 to 7.
Pages 5 to 7.
Joke and a half there. Could you post his solution of the flood section8 cause i cbf looking for it? Cheers
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Thanx for the acknowledgement. I'm falling in love with both you and Sedderssection8 said:
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Why compare me with Sedders? I don't troll and try to back up everything I post with reason.
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I guess i must fall in love with different type of people.section8 said:
Flooding the forward line would be fine if we had good forwards to flood it with.
Basically:
Hansen is a first year player.
Lynch is a second year player who used to be a backman. Hunter came good in this, his 5th year.
Gardiner is a ruckman with a broken foot.
Matera was injured.
Smith was injured.
Mcdougall was injured/out of form.
Who did well:
Sampi when not injured.
Embley when not injured.
Hunter when not needed down back.
The only foward we had for the whole H&A season was a second year backman.
Hopefully next year we can keep our forward line together for most of the year in 2006.
Basically:
Hansen is a first year player.
Lynch is a second year player who used to be a backman. Hunter came good in this, his 5th year.
Gardiner is a ruckman with a broken foot.
Matera was injured.
Smith was injured.
Mcdougall was injured/out of form.
Who did well:
Sampi when not injured.
Embley when not injured.
Hunter when not needed down back.
The only foward we had for the whole H&A season was a second year backman.
Hopefully next year we can keep our forward line together for most of the year in 2006.
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Fevola come on dowwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnn!!!juzza316 said:
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Max zero said:
It becomes a game of chance with every player in the 50m arc. As we saw again today.
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Yes and no. The leading and marking were terrible. In particular leading. On many occasions WC would have several inside 50s for little to no result and the Swans would get one and get a goal.
Our defence is solid ,our midfield solid, ruck and depth are fine.
We just need that marking forward.
Just one.
Even if he gets the best defender he can create goals by making space/drawing attention.
The talent of the WC foward line is no so much the problem but the teamwork. They just do not seem to gel. I think it's a lot to do with no one being 'the goto man'.
No one seems to be incharge or in control. Even when we had Matera at FF it worked because everyone knew who to work off and knew their role.
It would also help if our best ever forward (Sumich) would coach the forward line instead of the cusy midfield coach role (like our midfield needs coaching).
Bomber1313 said:Fevola come on dowwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnn!!!
You see I don't know if Tarrant or Fev are the exact type of players we need.
We don't need someone who kicks a large amount of goals but a 'central plank' around which we can build a Forward line.
A sort of Wirrapanda (correct spelling) in the forward line. Someone who can set leads, create space, set blocks and control positioning.
Basically someone to be in charge. The talent is there it just has to be organised and directed.
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Max zero said:
Contested pack marks are rarer than you think I think, mate.
Matera doing anything but crumbing, esp. if he played today, is too difficult to watch.
Most teams forward lines would not have withstood the barrage ours got today. Ours was fine against the minor premiers last week and for 75% of the season.
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coasting said:
Try explaining that to Timthetoolman (see top of thread) who has found a surefire way to defeat flooding.
section8 said:
Thats the thing though. Sydney's forward line didn't take many contested pack marks.
That was the whole point. Of course they are not easy, thats why you use TEAMWORK to create space/blocks for players to lead into. So you don't have to take contested marks.
We were the ones always trying to pack marks.
Matera is always making a lead because he is the only one who makes a decent one in the forward 50.
Yes our forward line was fine last week and most of the season although that is mainly due to our midfield.
WC have the best goal kicking midfield in the comp, could you imagine how dangerous we would be if the forward line was as dangerous as the midfield?
We would be unstoppable.
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Max zero said:
There was no space to lead into. All leads would have been chopped off. The only choice was to go long. All we needed were a couple of pack marks and the result would have been different. As I said, it becomes a game of chance in that situation because you cannot expect a team or any gun forward to take any more than 1 or 2 pack marks in the forward line each game. Therefore, such games will always be close.
The swans didn't have to take contested marks because we didn't flood their forwardline. It isn't our style.
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Yes but we were not flooded 100% of the time. When we moved the ball quickly we did have an open forward line and we still could not get a lead going.
We are 16th in the competition for marks inside 50 for a reason.
When Sydney got the ball moving quickly they looked far move dangerous.
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Max zero said:
My point is that you could throw any "gun" forward in the league into the eagles side today and we may have won by a goal instead of lost by 4 points or vice versa. It wouldn't have made as large an amount of difference as everyone likes to think. The reality is that you can't go about drafting a "key position player" (the stupidest buzz term used these days since almost everyone plays out of position) just to defeat teams with tactics like Sydney's. It's futile.
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The thing is flooding against is becoming more and more popular against us. Only Sydney and Adelaide do it at the moment but don't think more clubs won't try it against us. Collingwood and Geelong have similiar styles.
3 of these teams will be serious finals contenders next year.
As long as it works more and more teams will try it against us.
Re: Eagles flooded their own forward line and the swans were simply following their m
no sydney definatly flooded, forward lines would be stupid to flood, and im not taking a chamistary graduate (worsfold) as stupid. so yeah, everyone in the room todasy (sydney supporters) all agreed sydney flooded, and u dont do that in finals, but good game none the less
no sydney definatly flooded, forward lines would be stupid to flood, and im not taking a chamistary graduate (worsfold) as stupid. so yeah, everyone in the room todasy (sydney supporters) all agreed sydney flooded, and u dont do that in finals, but good game none the less
parrot said:Can this be moved to the Official Weagles Excuses thread?
Carlton won the wooden spoon thread?
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