Eddie McGuire makes on-air gaffe about Adam Goodes and King Kong

[the distributer]

So now do I go on for 50 posts about how I don't think there is anything wrong with questioning your daughter's intelligence? How I do it all the time? How I question the intelligence of people who I know are actually intelligent. And then any time someone makes a comment about it repeat the same thing ad nauseum? Are YOU feeling ME *bro*?

You just stop posting, easy fix.

 

[KnaveyBlue]

• Go into right-wing hysteria. Label everyone who doesn't completely agree with you as PC police.
• Receive likes from Average Joe
• Feel vindicated by support of fellow ignoramus to race discrimination currently and historically and continue to display tunnel vision.
• Explain that your view on the situation is only correct one and anyone who tries to look at it differently is automatically an hysterical bigot

Well you tried, but it just doesn't work a third time around.
Also, terrible text formatting, what were you thinking?
2/10.

 

[jimmy35]

So, who's gonna win tomorrow night?

If we ape our recent performances then the Lions IMO.

 

[Roby]

Do you think that girl would have called Jetta an Ape?

The words either has no meaning to you (which is baffling why you feel the need to continue ten to argue the same EXACT POINT, OVER AND OVER AGAIN) or it does have meaning and therefore we know why you do continue to use it.

 

[Goggin Our Best]

I think he was referring to those lame promo pics the Herald Sun always do with a photo of two people facing off in mock boxing poses or whatever. In this case, a real ape v a man who'd been badly insulted by the same tag. I don't think he was being racist but it was astoundingly ill-timed and inappropriate.

I very much opposed to racism but I think this one was more a clumsy gaffe than Eddie McGuire revealing some deep-seated racist traits.

I agree totally with that

When Diperdeminico came out publicly a couple of years ago and said -that player isnt a bad player for a A ( he abrievated the word Aboriginal) -that was a million miles worse than what McGuire said -when Diperdeminco said that -Gavin Wanganeen said that is one of the most cutting things you can say to an Aboriginal person . That example and using a totally vulgar word like N - thats what i call racism and is disgraceful coduct

Goodes wants to get in the real world -some people dont get a feed each day -i mean Harry (The Statesmen ) Obrien called Tom Hawkins a fat Pig - i mean if you go down to the supermarket and call the person standing next to you a fat pig or fat barstd -your going to cop a bit back -and its not going to be pleasant

 

[the distributer]

The words either has no meaning to you (which is baffling why you feel the need to continue ten to argue the same EXACT POINT, OVER AND OVER AGAIN) or it does have meaning and therefore we know why you do continue to use it.

The point is a valid one though, was the girl being racist? probably not.

Was it ok for Goodes to call the girl a racist?, definitely not, not based on what was said.

 

[Wolfgang West]

Considering what he did wasnt that bad he shouldnt stand aside...

Craig Kelly will take over if he does tho.

Other Boards members will be PINCHING themselves in disbelief if this happens.

 

[raffrox]

I know exactly why I asked the question and it's far more innocuous than you've suggested. So where does the suggestion of anything being "more Aboriginal" come from? It comes from you. You can either react with injured sarcasm, or take ownership of your thoughts. It's your choice. I don't much care.

Your 'examples' were judgement laden.

What was the point of your comments if not to demonstrate the 'gold standard' of experiences required to make an informed judgement?

What were they meant to achieve otherwise?

(Wait, wait, wait.... to suggest that I am superior to you I'll just finish with this...)

Reply or not. It's your choice. I don't much care.

(Gees I sound really smart now don't I?)

 

[Glacier]

• Go into right-wing hysteria. Label everyone who doesn't completely agree with you as PC police.
• Receive likes from Average Joe
• Feel vindicated by support of fellow ignoramus to race discrimination currently and historically and continue to display tunnel vision.
• Explain that your view on the situation is only correct one and anyone who tries to look at it differently is automatically an hysterical bigot

Well I liked it
But then again I was supposed to wasn't I ..

 

[T2B_]

Well that's one step in a more sympathetic view if you're admitting that.

Or otherwise you should absolutely reread your posts before posting. Misconstruing things is one of the arguments made in this thread and on this issue, if you been following any of it.

I don't even think about what colour he is

Okay, I can see how that may be taken the wrong way. Really though, my point was just that skin colour doesn't matter. When I say I don't think about the colour of a person, I mean it just doesn't occur to me as it doesn't matter.

Is that better?

 

[Monkey King]

Whilst it took me a while to read through your absolute rubbish, at the end I would just suggest you go back and remove your head from your obviously ignorant arse and re read the posts

Again? Divisive insults and airs of superiority are what you're meant to be arguing against dude, not propagating. Is this a demonstration of your empathy ... of your ability to see things from others perspectives and walk in their shoes? If so, I'm glad that I am ignorant to your ways.

Never once have I claimed myself superior in any way, simply said that those who don't find these remarks hurtful such as yourself, should look at them from from the point of view of those who do find them hurtful, instead of whining about the world drowning in political correctness
If you don't want to stop and think about this then simply don't

Indeed, every time you claim you are in possession of a knowledge that others aren't and are capable of acts they aren't, you are claiming yourself superior.

As for your waffle, I've done but advocate looking at things from others points of view. The difference is, that I am saying no party is exempt from this if wanting to bridge a true understanding. That no one party has the right to enforce their point of view as the baseline for another persons reality.[/quote]

 

[Davo63]

I'm a bit either way on this. I absolutely think associating black people with apes has racist tones, especially in the context of what had already occurred. Those arguing about it having nothing to do with race need to get it in context - this was after Eddie himself had apologised on the racist element of remarks made already. And Eddie himself agrees it was racist - arguing it was not on his behalf is pointless.

Biggiemediums try dragging your no doubt well-grown pair over and telling a black linebacker from Tennessee to "fetch me some watermelon, boy" and see how you go - I mean what's offensive about the word "boy" or "watermelon"? If lucky, you might wake up in about 2020, and no doubt you'd be wondering why...

While to me what Eddie came out with was racist, I don't think it was intentionally so - I just think he was trying to be all FM-radio jock-humorous with a current issue and just didn't see the dangers in where he was going. It's all context in regard to your position, too - as a stand-up comedian trying that comment on you'd get a groan, but as an AFL club president in the midst of a racial abuse scandal at your club, it was just plain stupid. It' was a slip of the judgement part of the brain rather than a slip of the tongue. And this has always been part of Eddies problem - he wears too many hats and the line gets blurred about who he needs to remember he represents - when he pulls on the radio hat, his president hat doesn't totally come off. This topic getting a good airing in the end might be good - for those that might learn. Wouldn't really bother me if he stayed - he'll certainly be super-tuned to this issue and no doubt be trying to stamp it out harder than he ever otherwise might.

 

[DogDays]

The sad issue is I'll no longer be taking bananas to the football - particularly not the next time we play Sydney.... just in case.

 

[skilts]

If we ape our recent performances then the Lions IMO.

The decision by the Fitzroy Football Club, in 1957, to change its name from The Gorillas to The Lions, seems well-advised from current perspectives. BTW, sorry for discussing footy on an inappropriate forum.

 

[Roby]

Sure as nobody in the family even looks remotely like one it would be the lamest insult ever.

What I do find quite offensive is people making sweeping statements like "Anyone in Australia who doesn't know that calling an Aboriginal "ape" is monumentally offensive has had a bad upbringing. Pure and simple."

Where I've lived and grown up it has never been used as an insult against the aboriginals. Call someone an Ape (before Friday at least..) and you would probably get a WTF? look. Call an aboriginal a n****r, bong, coon or even an abbo and you had better be ready for a fight.

Not just having a go at you because many others have said similar things as well, but it really pisses me off when people claim that anyone hasn't heard of 'ape' as a racial slur is some ignorant idiot, especially when you've spent a fair amount of time growing up around aboriginal people.

The girl got hung out to dry being publicly shamed when there IMO was a very real chance that she wasn't 'racist' at all. An absolute disgrace.

I've grown up around Aboriginal people and I have never heard the word Ape used against them. That said, are you calling Goodes a liar for saying he has been racially vilified in the past because of the word?

And who made you the arbiter of knowing whether the 13 year-old girl was been racist at all?

And if you did grew up in aboriginal community like you say you did, I find it hard to believe that you wouldn't of seen racism from kids much younger then teenagers been racially vilified and abused or doing it themselves.

 

[The 747]

It is always amusing the supporters of other clubs feel the need to comment on the Collingwood presidency as if they have some kind of stake in it. Its a matter for Collingwood members who they want as president, nobody else.

 

[biggiemediums]

Good work adding some much needed sexism to the argument.

There ya go. That's what I mean. I use a metaphor and suddenly it's sexism.

 

[Kynge of Begrem]

The point is a valid one though, was the girl being racist? probably not.

Was it ok for Goodes to call the girl a racist?, definitely not, not based on what was said.

The point is a valid one though, was I trying to offend a 5 y.o? probably not.

Was it ok for you to threaten me with violence? Definitely not, not based on what was said

 

[THRILLHO]

Why is Eddie offering to tender his resignation as President of Collingwood when he made the gaffe while in his role as Triple M Breakfast radio host?

Say I'm a shelf-filler at Coles during the week and work at Melbourne Uni library on weekends. If I'm caught shop-lifting product at Coles I don't tender my resignation at the library and keep on keeping on at Coles.

Having said that, it wouldn't kill the bloke to drop one of his gigs. His kids are probably convinced that their dad lives in the TV and comes over to the house to say hi on occasion.

 

[Roby]

Because you go for Collingwood.

Who cares which team you support?

 

[Wolfgang West]

I don't think Eddie is/meant to be racist with the comment, but it was a very very poor attempt at humor all things considered. More very poor judgement than intent.

Agree, but he should give people a spell with his John Candy impersonations.

 

[biggiemediums]

So you wouldn't apologize to a friend or significant other if you accidentally upset them? Even though you didn't mean it? To put it in context, Eddie accidentally upset a whole portion of our population.

I'm not Aboriginal, and I'm gonna take a wild guess that you're not either. Neither you nor I have any business telling them that they're being "too ******* touchy" when we can't possibly understand what it feels like.

I'm half African and grew up in a small town in Spain, whilst not the same thing as an Aboriginal here, I had to go through quite a bit. You have to get upset at the bad things not just turn everything into some huge racist outcry.

 

[neroblack]

But he will only do it if the Collingwood Board members think he should. Weak and gutless flog in my view. He should man up and take responsibility for his own actions and not rely on others to make the decision for him. Poor leadership IMO.

Weak and gutless? Man up? You haven't seen how many interviews he's done since yesterday morning?

You get into the position on the vote of the members, and you leave because of the same thing. Simple as that.

 

[RuFiO]

Who cares which team you support?

Was sarcasm mate.
They both go for Collingwood, as do I.

 

[walken79]

Maybe, just maybe, it isn't up to us white folks to dictate to Indigenous Australians and other minorities who have suffered through atrocities, when they can and when they can't be offended by something?

Listening to people compare this sort of behaviour to that of someone getting teased for having red hair or a big nose etc is extremely dumbfounding and upsetting. To suggest that it's no different to calling your white friend an ape is to completely miss the point and not understand the context here at all.

Jeez this is has been a disappointing few days.