EDFL moves

[son06]

Just disappointing that a club you have played for your whole life is going down the ********er because blokes ae walking out. When i was there playing junior there we had a great side and plays that i played with start to leave and chase money. Leigh O'Neal, Danny Campbell, Todd Courts and now Ash Craig. It disappoints me that these plays have left the footy club..because if they were still here then we would be grouse. I guess i stick it out at the club and hopefully one day all these blokes come back.....

the first 2 blokes left while they were still juniors, so how do they leave for money, and todd courts left with his old man to glenroy, and he never got paid there. as for ash craig, he stayed during the tough times, am suprised he left actually, but dont know where the money comment is coming from

 

[son06]

Were u at the Westmeadows game? It's pretty hard to take careof your problem somewhere else, when the problem is there in your face swinging punches. Once again Jacana get the blame with Casey gettin suspended 4 the year. While the two Westmeadows blokes get 2 weeks (one of them left the field to king hit)

he was the senior coach and he threatened to smash a player who was mouthing off and his twin brother came over and tried to stand up for him. i understand casey belting them when there in his face, but he was as much to blame for it happening as the day twins, but he is the senior coach and should of acted more responsibly earlier and it could of been avoided

 

[son06]

Can't sleep My North. Loafy will play for sure. Abers will boast a Forward line of Loafy, Paul Hudson, Al Faraj (ex Jacana, Abers & Coburg) and Shane Sheppard. AWESOME.

i cant believe the standard of the b grade side, that side would of given a grade 5 years ago a run for there money, not beating them but stay close. edfl really has come on in leap and bounds. have plenty of friends at glenroy, now my b grade scumbags line is not gonna be any good anymore. good to see never the less. thought you were an unlucky omission matty, keep working hard though buddy.

lucky daniel mangan left abers this year hey, even though his an idiot, he has ability and would of made it an even more impressive forward line.

 

[JAMA]

Jama, what are you doing while the missus is out with the boys? Baby sitting?

All too true deefer all to true

 

[bomber5]

Here are my REP teams if we were to play another league again. Again, you can read the above criteria's. Its the Best of the Best.
I have put time into this so others can debate in a positive manner and no abuse my choices in any personal manner.

I am more than happy to respond to questions. It has been extremely tough and many good players have missed out.
A GRADE;
B- John TATE , Ben GOGGINS , Richard LITTLE
HB- Steve PAXMAN , Mark BUDGE , Cam TREWIN
C- Lee FRASER , Joey MISITI , Micheal O'BRIAN
HF- Tim HARVEY , Adam WINTER , Luke WILLIAMS
F- Anthony ALOI , Simon.M/CONNELL , Shaun SMITH
R- Miles QUINN , Leigh OWEN , Rick MARCY

INT- Grant HOLMAN, Sam TANKARD, Paul BARNARD, Paul HUDSON
Brendon HEIR, John LINDSEY, Anth IBRAHIM, Shane SHEPPARD

QUOTE]

A very difficult task in selecting an A Grade rep side, maybe other selection criteria should be that you've actually seen them play! and they are not over 35 years of age.

You have the the league medalist Grant Holman on the bench, clearly the best on baller in the competition. Michael O'Brien hasn't played in a year or so, Shaun Smith, Minton Connell and Paul Hudson belong in retirement homes (just because they are ex AFL, they shouldn't gain automatic selection. Paul Barnard has been retired from footy for at least 3 years but gets picked. Cam Trewin is not in the top 30 EDFL players, have you seen Lindsay, Goggins and O'Oneil play. Cameron Munro has been a super player over the past few years, much better player than Trewin. Paxman plays up forward or in the guts.

Perhaps sides should be selected on their performances in the EDFL and not by reputation alone.

 

[Travvy43]

Here are my REP teams if we were to play another league again. Again, you can read the above criteria's. Its the Best of the Best.
I have put time into this so others can debate in a positive manner and no abuse my choices in any personal manner.

I am more than happy to respond to questions. It has been extremely tough and many good players have missed out.
A GRADE;
B- John TATE , Ben GOGGINS , Richard LITTLE
HB- Steve PAXMAN , Mark BUDGE , Cam TREWIN
C- Lee FRASER , Joey MISITI , Micheal O'BRIAN
HF- Tim HARVEY , Adam WINTER , Luke WILLIAMS
F- Anthony ALOI , Simon.M/CONNELL , Shaun SMITH
R- Miles QUINN , Leigh OWEN , Rick MARCY

INT- Grant HOLMAN, Sam TANKARD, Paul BARNARD, Paul HUDSON
Brendon HEIR, John LINDSEY, Anth IBRAHIM, Shane SHEPPARD

QUOTE]

A very difficult task in selecting an A Grade rep side, maybe other selection criteria should be that you've actually seen them play! and they are not over 35 years of age.

You have the the league medalist Grant Holman on the bench, clearly the best on baller in the competition. Michael O'Brien hasn't played in a year or so, Shaun Smith, Minton Connell and Paul Hudson belong in retirement homes (just because they are ex AFL, they shouldn't gain automatic selection. Paul Barnard has been retired from footy for at least 3 years but gets picked. Cam Trewin is not in the top 30 EDFL players, have you seen Lindsay, Goggins and O'Oneil play. Cameron Munro has been a super player over the past few years, much better player than Trewin. Paxman plays up forward or in the guts.

Perhaps sides should be selected on their performances in the EDFL and not by reputation alone.

Easy to sit and judge bomber, hows your side looking??

 

[Matthew Pillios]

Here are my REP teams if we were to play another league again. Again, you can read the above criteria's. Its the Best of the Best.
I have put time into this so others can debate in a positive manner and no abuse my choices in any personal manner.

I am more than happy to respond to questions. It has been extremely tough and many good players have missed out.
A GRADE;
B- John TATE , Ben GOGGINS , Richard LITTLE
HB- Steve PAXMAN , Mark BUDGE , Cam TREWIN
C- Lee FRASER , Joey MISITI , Micheal O'BRIAN
HF- Tim HARVEY , Adam WINTER , Luke WILLIAMS
F- Anthony ALOI , Simon.M/CONNELL , Shaun SMITH
R- Miles QUINN , Leigh OWEN , Rick MARCY

INT- Grant HOLMAN, Sam TANKARD, Paul BARNARD, Paul HUDSON
Brendon HEIR, John LINDSEY, Anth IBRAHIM, Shane SHEPPARD

QUOTE]

A very difficult task in selecting an A Grade rep side, maybe other selection criteria should be that you've actually seen them play! and they are not over 35 years of age.

You have the the league medalist Grant Holman on the bench, clearly the best on baller in the competition. Michael O'Brien hasn't played in a year or so, Shaun Smith, Minton Connell and Paul Hudson belong in retirement homes (just because they are ex AFL, they shouldn't gain automatic selection. Paul Barnard has been retired from footy for at least 3 years but gets picked. Cam Trewin is not in the top 30 EDFL players, have you seen Lindsay, Goggins and O'Oneil play. Cameron Munro has been a super player over the past few years, much better player than Trewin. Paxman plays up forward or in the guts.

Perhaps sides should be selected on their performances in the EDFL and not by reputation alone.

Hey Bomber,

Look all are fair questions. Firstly, Grant Holman had an exceptional year last year, but the year before didn't finish top 4 in a Douttas side that fininshed 9th. I feel the other on-ballers are better players (just) & that's no disgrace to Grant (all different opinions).
Shaun Smith has still been very dangerous at Weribee at VFL level. Paul Hudson was kicking goals for Coburg Tigers in 2002 and in country. Only had year or so off. O'Brian is a gun. Ask any country footballer and was on West Coasts list. If injury free you will see what I meant. Trewin is a massive talent, tall, strong and runs like the wind (could even be the Hts Captain in 2006) and if you saw my scrap piece of paper he pipped both Munro and then Hassel. Cam just missed out. Him and Bakoulas were the 2 i just left out.
It is a Rep game and Paxman after 10 years at AFL being a Backman, he mainly plays forward now to expose the low level he has transferred too.
O'Neill is not in the side and I saw him and Lindsey in 2 of Port Colts finals last season. Lindsey is as good as Holman from what I saw. Goggin, I have heard from many is an outstanding Big Backman. There arn't many tall backs that have been running around in EDFL A Grade. It has been a Comp that has been dominated by talented midfielders, strong lists and gun forwards.

Son06. That B Grade side would of been an A Grade side in 2000. It's pretty scary and blokes like Pricey, Brett Scott and Stan would be loving the cream that has entered the Comp.

 

[bomber5]

You'll select Goggins over players like Clayton Hatch, Aaron Thomas, Steve Vernon or Damien Zahra. Players you have seen and played against.

 

[Matthew Pillios]

i cant believe the standard of the b grade side, that side would of given a grade 5 years ago a run for there money, not beating them but stay close. edfl really has come on in leap and bounds. have plenty of friends at glenroy, now my b grade scumbags line is not gonna be any good anymore. good to see never the less. thought you were an unlucky omission matty, keep working hard though buddy.

lucky daniel mangan left abers this year hey, even though his an idiot, he has ability and would of made it an even more impressive forward line.

When Mangan is on song he is good. Where has he gone???

 

[Matthew Pillios]

You'll select Goggins over players like Clayton Hatch, Aaron Thomas, Steve Vernon or Damien Zahra. Players you have seen and played against.

All came into consideration strongly. Hatchy is a Champion, but is past his best. Even he'd tell you that. Nothing like his first few years at Oakers.
Aaron Thomas just got pipped. Vernon is at Bundoora and Zahra was just behind Goggins.

I ask a few Senior EDFL coaches and WRFL people and they all rated Goggins a 'touch' just a bit ahead of Zahara and Thomas. Again, they both just missed out.
I did have Munro and Zahra in the EDFL Team Of the Year last season.

How's your team going?

 

[on_the_sidelines]

Matty few flaws in the b grade side mate i think:

Ben Dollman on the bench, came third in comp last year

Liam Turner on the bench, arguably one of the best in b grade prob top 3

Ty zantuck, just cos hes played afl doesnt mean he can just walk in to the team, if we are going on performances then hes ordinary, the reason he isnt playing afl anymore is cos he is not anywhere near good enough, got drafted on his old mans name, big attitude problem.

Sammy Taylor too old now

Westy injured all the time

Zou fair enough coach but not playing

Zeraf should be in the middle instead of powell

not having a go at you like everybody else, just my thoughts.

oh and in a grade lindsey should be on the ground....absolute gun

 

[Allears]

have you been to a show ??

It's as good as live,

Been to a couple, its quite funny..!!!

 

[Matthew Pillios]

Matty few flaws in the b grade side mate i think:

Ben Dollman on the bench, came third in comp last year
CHANGED HIM LATE FOR M.GREEN. V.CLOSE. THE ONLY DECENT ON-BALLER ROX PARK HAD AND HAD NOBODY TO TAKE VOTES OFF HIM LAST YEAR.
Liam Turner on the bench, arguably one of the best in b grade prob top 3
BIT STIFF. HAD A QUIET FINAL VS W.COB. WHO WOULD YOU SWAP WITH HIM.
Ty zantuck, just cos hes played afl doesnt mean he can just walk in to the team, if we are going on performances then hes ordinary, the reason he isnt playing afl anymore is cos he is not anywhere near good enough, got drafted on his old mans name, big attitude problem.
I DISAGREE ABILITY WISE. CAN PLAY. STRONG & FIT. PLAYED ON JONATHON BROWN & FEVOLA AND COULD HOLD HIS HEAD UP.
Sammy Taylor too old now
STILL THERE 2ND BEST TO DESOUSA LAST YEAR. THEY FINISHED 3RD H & AWAY.
Westy injured all the time
ASSUMONG HE IS GIT & FIRING LIKE CRITERIA.
Zou fair enough coach but not playing
WAS AWESOME LAST YEAR & GETTING FITTER AS HE GETS OLDER.
Zeraf should be in the middle instead of powell
POSSIBLY. BUT, ZERAF COULD PLAY H.F & KICK 4, HILST SWAPPING ON THE BALL. REASON AGAIN WHY TURNER IS ON BENCH.
not having a go at you like everybody else, just my thoughts.

oh and in a grade lindsey should be on the ground....absolute gun

GOOD CALL. VERY TOUGH WITH SO MANY GOOD PLAYERS.

Mate, great feedback. All have their points. I have responded to your questions.

Ben Dollman on the bench, came third in comp last year
CHANGED HIM LATE FOR M.GREEN. V.CLOSE. THE ONLY DECENT ON-BALLER ROX PARK HAD AND HAD NOBODY TO TAKE VOTES OFF HIM LAST YEAR. NOTHING BETWEEN HIM, DEGHAN, GREEN, TURNER, etc
Liam Turner on the bench, arguably one of the best in b grade prob top 3
BIT STIFF. HAD A QUIET FINAL VS W.COB. WHO WOULD YOU SWAP WITH HIM.

Ty zantuck, just cos hes played afl doesnt mean he can just walk in to the team, if we are going on performances then hes ordinary, the reason he isnt playing afl anymore is cos he is not anywhere near good enough, got drafted on his old mans name, big attitude problem.
I DISAGREE ABILITY WISE. CAN PLAY. STRONG & FIT. PLAYED ON JONATHON BROWN & FEVOLA AND COULD HOLD HIS HEAD UP.

Sammy Taylor too old now
STILL THERE 2ND BEST TO DESOUSA LAST YEAR. THEY FINISHED 3RD H & AWAY.

Westy injured all the time
ASSUMING HE IS GIT & FIRING LIKE CRITERIA.

Zou fair enough coach but not playing
WAS AWESOME LAST YEAR & GETTING FITTER AS HE GETS OLDER.

Zeraf should be in the middle instead of powell
POSSIBLY. BUT, ZERAF COULD PLAY H.F & KICK 4, HILST SWAPPING ON THE BALL. REASON AGAIN WHY TURNER IS ON BENCH.
not having a go at you like everybody else, just my thoughts.

oh and in a grade lindsey should be on the ground....absolute gun[/quote]
GOOD CALL. VERY TOUGH WITH SO MANY GOOD PLAYERS.

 

[bomber5]

When Mangan is on song he is good. Where has he gone???

He is playing for Next Blue

 

[on_the_sidelines]

GOOD CALL. VERY TOUGH WITH SO MANY GOOD PLAYERS.

Mate, great feedback. All have their points. I have responded to your questions.

Ben Dollman on the bench, came third in comp last year
CHANGED HIM LATE FOR M.GREEN. V.CLOSE. THE ONLY DECENT ON-BALLER ROX PARK HAD AND HAD NOBODY TO TAKE VOTES OFF HIM LAST YEAR. NOTHING BETWEEN HIM, DEGHAN, GREEN, TURNER, etc
Liam Turner on the bench, arguably one of the best in b grade prob top 3
BIT STIFF. HAD A QUIET FINAL VS W.COB. WHO WOULD YOU SWAP WITH HIM.

Ty zantuck, just cos hes played afl doesnt mean he can just walk in to the team, if we are going on performances then hes ordinary, the reason he isnt playing afl anymore is cos he is not anywhere near good enough, got drafted on his old mans name, big attitude problem.
I DISAGREE ABILITY WISE. CAN PLAY. STRONG & FIT. PLAYED ON JONATHON BROWN & FEVOLA AND COULD HOLD HIS HEAD UP.

Sammy Taylor too old now
STILL THERE 2ND BEST TO DESOUSA LAST YEAR. THEY FINISHED 3RD H & AWAY.

Westy injured all the time
ASSUMING HE IS GIT & FIRING LIKE CRITERIA.

Zou fair enough coach but not playing
WAS AWESOME LAST YEAR & GETTING FITTER AS HE GETS OLDER.

Zeraf should be in the middle instead of powell
POSSIBLY. BUT, ZERAF COULD PLAY H.F & KICK 4, HILST SWAPPING ON THE BALL. REASON AGAIN WHY TURNER IS ON BENCH.
not having a go at you like everybody else, just my thoughts.

oh and in a grade lindsey should be on the ground....absolute gun

GOOD CALL. VERY TOUGH WITH SO MANY GOOD PLAYERS.[/QUOTE]
Yes turner did have a quiet final, he was tagged the whole game and i think it was the third quarter when westmeadows broke away from west coburg and im pretty sure it was turner that turned it on in that quarter. one thing about the kid is he can turn a game by himself which i hear happened against craigieburn last year down by six or seven at half time and apparantly won the game off his own boot, (kicked 7 goals 4 in a half) not bad against the eventual premiers.

Mace green and martin and and those type of blokes arent going to be match winners.....good contributors but not match winners

 

[Allears]

Here are my A and B Grade Rep teams, people have different opinions on different players, feel free to voice your opinion but please remember it is hard...!!!

A Grade Rep Team:

FB: J.Tate D.Zarah R.Little

HB: T.Gluschenko S.Sheppard S.Kretiuk

C: L.Fraser J.Misiti L.Williams

HB: T.Harvey A.Winter M.O'Brian

FF: A.Aloi S.M/Connell T.Paterson

R: M.Quinn S.Paxman G.Holman

INTER: S.Tankard, J.Lindsey, S.Long,
M.Budge, P.Barnard, C.Munro

COACH: Crag Hille


B Grade Rep Team:

FB: C.Laurie D.Cadwick A.Luvara

HB: M.Martin T.Zantuck B.Dollman

C: N.Zerafa J.Murphy M.Deagan

HF: L.Turner J.Scott D.Weston

FF: R.Powell A.Gough B.Abdul-wahed

R: A.Garbutt R.Haoucher A.Nash

INTER: M.Green, J.Bell, C.Bakker, R.Cudmore

A.Vassilopoulis, M.Barclay

COACH: Peter Zouzounis
JUST REMEMBER IT IS HARD!!

 

[lets do it]

Here are my A and B Grade Rep teams, people have different opinions on different players, feel free to voice your opinion but please remember it is hard...!!!

A Grade Rep Team:

FB: J.Tate D.Zarah R.Little

HB: T.Gluschenko S.Sheppard S.Kretiuk

C: L.Fraser J.Misiti L.Williams

HB: T.Harvey A.Winter M.O'Brian

FF: A.Aloi S.M/Connell T.Paterson

R: M.Quinn S.Paxman G.Holman

INTER: S.Tankard, J.Lindsey, S.Long,
M.Budge, P.Barnard, C.Munro

COACH: Crag Hille


B Grade Rep Team:

FB: C.Laurie D.Cadwick A.Luvara

HB: M.Martin T.Zantuck B.Dollman

C: N.Zerafa J.Murphy M.Deagan

HF: L.Turner J.Scott D.Weston

FF: R.Powell A.Gough B.Abdul-wahed

R: A.Garbutt R.Haoucher A.Nash

INTER: M.Green, J.Bell, C.Bakker, R.Cudmore

A.Vassilopoulis, M.Barclay

COACH: Peter Zouzounis
JUST REMEMBER IT IS HARD!!

Not bad mate pretty much the same as matty's which i thought was really good...
But u couldnt even put in pappa or flavel which are both quallity A grade players????

 

[UltimateFreq]

Yeh i think both sides are rather well done, but one thing that i do think is a bit out is how both rate Mace Green so highly??

I would not think he would be in the top 30 players in B grade and there should be a lot more players ahead of him. Like someone said earlier he is definitely not a player that can turn a game and is very much a reciever with just above average pace (not execellent).

Overall though i think you have both done an excellent job in choosing two sides

 

[JAMA]

Here are my A and B Grade Rep teams, people have different opinions on different players, feel free to voice your opinion but please remember it is hard...!!!

A Grade Rep Team:

FB: J.Tate D.Zarah R.Little

HB: T.Gluschenko S.Sheppard S.Kretiuk

C: L.Fraser J.Misiti L.Williams

HB: T.Harvey A.Winter M.O'Brian

FF: A.Aloi S.M/Connell T.Paterson

R: M.Quinn S.Paxman G.Holman

INTER: S.Tankard, J.Lindsey, S.Long,
M.Budge, P.Barnard, C.Munro

COACH: Crag Hille


B Grade Rep Team:

FB: C.Laurie D.Cadwick A.Luvara

HB: M.Martin T.Zantuck B.Dollman

C: N.Zerafa J.Murphy M.Deagan

HF: L.Turner J.Scott D.Weston

FF: R.Powell A.Gough B.Abdul-wahed

R: A.Garbutt R.Haoucher A.Nash

INTER: M.Green, J.Bell, C.Bakker, R.Cudmore

A.Vassilopoulis, M.Barclay

COACH: Peter Zouzounis
JUST REMEMBER IT IS HARD!!

Not bad Ears,

No one has included Adam Szwadiak from Douttas as yet, can play both ends, mainly at CHB,

Any thoughts on whether he is good enough ??

 

[Hard Ball Get]

Yeh i think both sides are rather well done, but one thing that i do think is a bit out is how both rate Mace Green so highly??

I would not think he would be in the top 30 players in B grade and there should be a lot more players ahead of him. Like someone said earlier he is definitely not a player that can turn a game and is very much a reciever with just above average pace (not execellent).

Overall though i think you have both done an excellent job in choosing two sides

I agree with Mace and the other one I would not include is Big Jack Scott. Played all my juniors against him and now seniors and is just an honset player. Has improved but not to the point where I would include him in the team.
Great job otherwise.

 

[Aussie_dude]

Here are my REP teams if we were to play another league again. Again, you can read the above criteria's. Its the Best of the Best.
I have put time into this so others can debate in a positive manner and no abuse my choices in any personal manner.

I am more than happy to respond to questions. It has been extremely tough and many good players have missed out.
A GRADE;
B- John TATE , Ben GOGGINS , Richard LITTLE
HB- Steve PAXMAN , Mark BUDGE , Cam TREWIN
C- Lee FRASER , Joey MISITI , Micheal O'BRIAN
HF- Tim HARVEY , Adam WINTER , Luke WILLIAMS
F- Anthony ALOI , Simon.M/CONNELL , Shaun SMITH
R- Miles QUINN , Leigh OWEN , Rick MARCY

INT- Grant HOLMAN, Sam TANKARD, Paul BARNARD, Paul HUDSON
Brendon HEIR, John LINDSEY, Anth IBRAHIM, Shane SHEPPARD

Not a bad effort matty.
- Tait would struggle to make the side. He is not in greenvales top 3 midfielders.
- Cam Trewin is a massive cat, and i have not seen him play a good game, but similar to you, know people that have seen him play cracking games.
- Rick Marcy no way.
- Brendon Heir, dont be fooled, this guy is not good.
- What about players like Gluschekco, Tortora and Maggorie. All must have been close.
- The only certainty that you missed was hassell. People actually have to watch him play, his man never touches the ball. Just because he doesn't run up field and get 35 switch kicks like long, doesnt mean he isn't good. Rambo and Munro? (that small foward from East, that everyone thinks is good) still have nightmares of ZERO possession games.
- Id rather Knight than tankard on the bench as the foward line is already pretty handy.
- Also there are 2 other players that you have missed, but i dont think you know they are playing edfl football yet.

 

[JAMA]

Not a bad effort matty.
- Tait would struggle to make the side. He is not in greenvales top 3 midfielders.
- Cam Trewin is a massive cat, and i have not seen him play a good game, but similar to you, know people that have seen him play cracking games.
- Rick Marcy no way.
- Brendon Heir, dont be fooled, this guy is not good.
- What about players like Gluschekco, Tortora and Maggorie. All must have been close.
- The only certainty that you missed was hassell. People actually have to watch him play, his man never touches the ball. Just because he doesn't run up field and get 35 switch kicks like long, doesnt mean he isn't good. Rambo and Munro? (that small foward from East, that everyone thinks is good) still have nightmares of ZERO possession games.
- Also there are 2 other players that you have missed, but i dont think you know they are playing edfl football yet.

Mate thats very cryptic ???

Who are you refering to ??

 

[Aussie_dude]

Mate thats very cryptic ???

Who are you refering to ??

Matt Pillios' A grade rep side.

 

[8485]

Small nos at Abers yesterday due to 3 day training camp at Portarlington. Mangan will be at Abers. Where do these other rumours start? He was at Portarlington and even trained again last night. Only confirmed major losses are Woodsie (Donvale), Simon Cox (Nth Adelaide) and JD (knee reco) but hopeful of playing sometime in 2nd half of season. His old man is coaching the 2s. Plenty of gains as mentioned earlier in some of the replies.

 

[JAMA]

Matt Pillios' A grade rep side.

the two players he has missed ??