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gotnoskills said:
JT Played in the 2's to get some match fitness. Luke Ezard Didn't play, injured at the moment.

Cheers when will Tails resume in the seniors you reckon and how long is Lukey out for?
 
Watched Abers vs Oak Park today.

Oak Park were about 7 goals up when I left half way through the 3rd qtr.

Very slick unit, disciplined and moved the ball well. Obviously lost a few players but will still trouble the top sides.

Was that Ziros No.11 who returned to play again? He kicked 4-5 and looked really polished
 

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All you ned to do to stop Greenham is stomp on his feet. He has had bad foot problems, he is also soft so put someone on him who can rough him up...he deserved it.
 
Footytripper said:
Went and watched the first half of Keilor / Strathmore followed by the second half of Roxburgh park and Pacco.

Didn't think there was that big a crowd at Strathmore considering it is supposed to be the two big guns. Ground was a disgrace and resembled a sand pit. Council should be ashamed of its condition. Apparently they sacked the man doing the watering just after they top dressed the ground and it was not watered thus all the grass died.

Strathmore need to spend a little more money and pay their players to play defense as it seemed the majority of Keilors goals started in the back half of the ground and they ran it pretty well through the midfield to set up their goals.

Strathmore seemed to have it in the forward half much more than Keilor but Keilors forward setup and disposal seemed better than Strathmores who seemd to go wide a hell of a lot for a team wuith Winter and Harvey in the KP.

Did note a couple of players who appear on big footy regulary:
Quinn: Gun, superb tap ruckman. Gives his onballers an easy go. Should win medal easily
Harvey: 3 goal second term and looked very classy
Williams: Did the Hammy in the first couple of minutes but kicked a goal
Lindsay: Got plenty of it but will top the league in up and under bombs.
Stormont: Ran well off half back but disposal was very ordinary
Hoath: Moved well and as the third tall forward will be hard to match up on
Beazley: Pretty slow and got caught a lot
Tate; Got smashed early on when he didn't see a keilor player standing still in the middle of the ground
Cuffe: Took some strong pack marks and looked like he started to get into the game in the second quarter
Watched all the Strathmore Keilor game, my comments a little bit different to yours Footytripper.

Quinn.
Bearing in mind all the lead up publicity on him, thought he was a bit disappointing. Yes he did win the taps, but did not really influence the game around the ground. From the boundary, did not seem all the big, tall but not a lot of bulk. Think it is a bit premature to have him winning the medal. Keilor lost Cooper, (ruckman) in the second quarter, very little opposition after that.
Harvey.
Ended up with 7 from probably around 10-12 possessions. Will be difficult for most teams to counter. Should win the goal kicking award.
Williams.
As stated, left injured.
Lindsay.
Did not think he got much of it in the first half, contrary to your view Footytripper. Had him down for 9 touches to half time. Got a bit more of it in the second half, but so did Rick Marcy his direct opponent. Did not hurt with his possies, most seemed under pressure.
Hoath.
Thought he played a top game. Dominant big man on the ground. Changed with Quinn in the ruck, and in my view, had a greater impact than Quinn. Spent more time on the ball in the second half.
Beazley.
A game to forget. No impact.
Goggins.
Not as prominent in posts leading up to the season, and game matched, not prominent. Not worth the reputed payments I have been told he is getting.
Walker.
Same as Goggins, missing.
Stormont.
Good game.
O’Neill
Played in the reserves.
Dale May, one of the ex juniors returning from the VFL had a good second half. Richard Little had a very good game.
Summary.
Lot of pre season hype surrounding the quality of Strathmore recruiting, but based on the first game, only real quality appears to be Quinn, Hoath and Harvey. Lindsay needs to show more. The rest, no more than average, or, on yesterdays form, below average a grade players. Have excluded Williams. He should be quality. O’Brien did not play.

Interesting match up in the centre. Holman and Gluschenko. Holman started well, Gluschenko slowly. Holman died out of the game after quarter time, whereas Gluschenko really came on. According to the Keilor stats guy, Gluschenko ended up with 34 touches for the game, Holman 16.

Brad Teal award votes for the game, Hoath 3, Gluschenko 2, Harvey 1.

Another observation. Crowd not large, and on the Strathmore side, subdued. Not the usual parochial stuff that you get at Strathmore. After game celebration also very mild.

Understand that the above is based on one game only, and things will change as we go along. May well have to retract some comments on some of the players.

Agree with Footytripper, condition of ground abysmal. League officialdom not happy and want Strathmore to move.
 
Doona2 said:
Two Broadford 3rds player have claimed recently they considered going down to Maribyrnong Park to play 3rds after they were offered a few $$$.Surely this cant be true . . . can some EDFL fan shed some light and say this doesn't happen in your league (paying 3rds kids).

I feel young blokes these days forget the importance of 3rds footy, aint it all about the final stages of development/learning of the game prior to graduating to senior ranks.
Doona, have heard over the years that some clubs struggling to field U18's have offered inducements of various sorts for kids to come to the club. Motivation? Most likely avoid the fines for not putting a team on the gorund. Probably cheaper to pay them than the fine.
Completely agree with your sentiments.
 
Deefer4 said:
Watched all the Strathmore Keilor game, my comments a little bit different to yours Footytripper.

Quinn.
Bearing in mind all the lead up publicity on him, thought he was a bit disappointing. Yes he did win the taps, but did not really influence the game around the ground. From the boundary, did not seem all the big, tall but not a lot of bulk. Think it is a bit premature to have him winning the medal. Keilor lost Cooper, (ruckman) in the second quarter, very little opposition after that.
Harvey.
Ended up with 7 from probably around 10-12 possessions. Will be difficult for most teams to counter. Should win the goal kicking award.
Williams.
As stated, left injured.
Lindsay.
Did not think he got much of it in the first half, contrary to your view Footytripper. Had him down for 9 touches to half time. Got a bit more of it in the second half, but so did Rick Marcy his direct opponent. Did not hurt with his possies, most seemed under pressure.
Hoath.
Thought he played a top game. Dominant big man on the ground. Changed with Quinn in the ruck, and in my view, had a greater impact than Quinn. Spent more time on the ball in the second half.
Beazley.
A game to forget. No impact.
Goggins.
Not as prominent in posts leading up to the season, and game matched, not prominent. Not worth the reputed payments I have been told he is getting.
Walker.
Same as Goggins, missing.
Stormont.
Good game.
O’Neill
Played in the reserves.
Dale May, one of the ex juniors returning from the VFL had a good second half. Richard Little had a very good game.
Summary.
Lot of pre season hype surrounding the quality of Strathmore recruiting, but based on the first game, only real quality appears to be Quinn, Hoath and Harvey. Lindsay needs to show more. The rest, no more than average, or, on yesterdays form, below average a grade players. Have excluded Williams. He should be quality. O’Brien did not play.

Interesting match up in the centre. Holman and Gluschenko. Holman started well, Gluschenko slowly. Holman died out of the game after quarter time, whereas Gluschenko really came on. According to the Keilor stats guy, Gluschenko ended up with 34 touches for the game, Holman 16.

Brad Teal award votes for the game, Hoath 3, Gluschenko 2, Harvey 1.

Another observation. Crowd not large, and on the Strathmore side, subdued. Not the usual parochial stuff that you get at Strathmore. After game celebration also very mild.

Understand that the above is based on one game only, and things will change as we go along. May well have to retract some comments on some of the players.

Agree with Footytripper, condition of ground abysmal. League officialdom not happy and want Strathmore to move.

Great post Deffer4, quality work there! Did T.Paterson play? If so how did he go?
 
EDFL MAN said:
Great post Deffer4, quality work there! Did T.Paterson play? If so how did he go?

Patterson didnt play. Apparently should be back in the next few weeks everything going well his calf.....

Keilor will defintely need his size if they are to compete with Quinn, Hoath, Winter etc etc....
 
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bricksta said:
Holman best in compl
rabee best in comp and runner up the year after missing 5 or so games???
Williams at Strathmore
Mobsy at strathmore just to name a few.....

Although Rabee is a great player, the three years he played at Keilor he never got close to Fraser in the club B & F which says something.

There may be players equal to Fraser but I would say no one is better
 
Deefer4 said:
Watched all the Strathmore Keilor game, my comments a little bit different to yours Footytripper.

Quinn.
Bearing in mind all the lead up publicity on him, thought he was a bit disappointing. Yes he did win the taps, but did not really influence the game around the ground. From the boundary, did not seem all the big, tall but not a lot of bulk. Think it is a bit premature to have him winning the medal. Keilor lost Cooper, (ruckman) in the second quarter, very little opposition after that.
Harvey.
Ended up with 7 from probably around 10-12 possessions. Will be difficult for most teams to counter. Should win the goal kicking award.
Williams.
As stated, left injured.
Lindsay.
Did not think he got much of it in the first half, contrary to your view Footytripper. Had him down for 9 touches to half time. Got a bit more of it in the second half, but so did Rick Marcy his direct opponent. Did not hurt with his possies, most seemed under pressure.
Hoath.
Thought he played a top game. Dominant big man on the ground. Changed with Quinn in the ruck, and in my view, had a greater impact than Quinn. Spent more time on the ball in the second half.
Beazley.
A game to forget. No impact.
Goggins.
Not as prominent in posts leading up to the season, and game matched, not prominent. Not worth the reputed payments I have been told he is getting.
Walker.
Same as Goggins, missing.
Stormont.
Good game.
O’Neill
Played in the reserves.
Dale May, one of the ex juniors returning from the VFL had a good second half. Richard Little had a very good game.
Summary.
Lot of pre season hype surrounding the quality of Strathmore recruiting, but based on the first game, only real quality appears to be Quinn, Hoath and Harvey. Lindsay needs to show more. The rest, no more than average, or, on yesterdays form, below average a grade players. Have excluded Williams. He should be quality. O’Brien did not play.

Interesting match up in the centre. Holman and Gluschenko. Holman started well, Gluschenko slowly. Holman died out of the game after quarter time, whereas Gluschenko really came on. According to the Keilor stats guy, Gluschenko ended up with 34 touches for the game, Holman 16.

Brad Teal award votes for the game, Hoath 3, Gluschenko 2, Harvey 1.

Another observation. Crowd not large, and on the Strathmore side, subdued. Not the usual parochial stuff that you get at Strathmore. After game celebration also very mild.

Understand that the above is based on one game only, and things will change as we go along. May well have to retract some comments on some of the players.

Agree with Footytripper, condition of ground abysmal. League officialdom not happy and want Strathmore to move.


How did Winter go? did see his name in your review ?? :confused:
 
Deefer4 said:
Watched all the Strathmore Keilor game, my comments a little bit different to yours Footytripper.

Quinn.
Bearing in mind all the lead up publicity on him, thought he was a bit disappointing. Yes he did win the taps, but did not really influence the game around the ground. From the boundary, did not seem all the big, tall but not a lot of bulk. Think it is a bit premature to have him winning the medal. Keilor lost Cooper, (ruckman) in the second quarter, very little opposition after that.
Harvey.
Ended up with 7 from probably around 10-12 possessions. Will be difficult for most teams to counter. Should win the goal kicking award.
Williams.
As stated, left injured.
Lindsay.
Did not think he got much of it in the first half, contrary to your view Footytripper. Had him down for 9 touches to half time. Got a bit more of it in the second half, but so did Rick Marcy his direct opponent. Did not hurt with his possies, most seemed under pressure.
Hoath.
Thought he played a top game. Dominant big man on the ground. Changed with Quinn in the ruck, and in my view, had a greater impact than Quinn. Spent more time on the ball in the second half.
Beazley.
A game to forget. No impact.
Goggins.
Not as prominent in posts leading up to the season, and game matched, not prominent. Not worth the reputed payments I have been told he is getting.
Walker.
Same as Goggins, missing.
Stormont.
Good game.
O’Neill
Played in the reserves.
Dale May, one of the ex juniors returning from the VFL had a good second half. Richard Little had a very good game.
Summary.
Lot of pre season hype surrounding the quality of Strathmore recruiting, but based on the first game, only real quality appears to be Quinn, Hoath and Harvey. Lindsay needs to show more. The rest, no more than average, or, on yesterdays form, below average a grade players. Have excluded Williams. He should be quality. O’Brien did not play.

Interesting match up in the centre. Holman and Gluschenko. Holman started well, Gluschenko slowly. Holman died out of the game after quarter time, whereas Gluschenko really came on. According to the Keilor stats guy, Gluschenko ended up with 34 touches for the game, Holman 16.

Brad Teal award votes for the game, Hoath 3, Gluschenko 2, Harvey 1.

Another observation. Crowd not large, and on the Strathmore side, subdued. Not the usual parochial stuff that you get at Strathmore. After game celebration also very mild.

Understand that the above is based on one game only, and things will change as we go along. May well have to retract some comments on some of the players.

Agree with Footytripper, condition of ground abysmal. League officialdom not happy and want Strathmore to move.


Fair post there Deefer, you sound like you did the stats for the game.

Any other stats worth sharing for the game? High possession getters?
 
Dusters said:
Fair post there Deefer, you sound like you did the stats for the game.

deefer does that mean when these recruits start firing that no team will get close to them? to win by a couple of goals and only have a few players playing well i would hate to think what they will do when these players fire.
 
gotnoskills said:
JT Played in the 2's to get some match fitness. Luke Ezard Didn't play, injured at the moment.

Is that the same John Taylor that played at one of the keilor teams ( cant rememeber which) and last season at Sale in the west gippy?
 

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Rhombus said:
Watched Abers vs Oak Park today.

Oak Park were about 7 goals up when I left half way through the 3rd qtr.

Very slick unit, disciplined and moved the ball well. Obviously lost a few players but will still trouble the top sides.

Was that Ziros No.11 who returned to play again? He kicked 4-5 and looked really polished

Is Coxy still with Abers? Howd he go?
 
Dusters said:
Fair post there Deefer, you sound like you did the stats for the game.

Any other stats worth sharing for the game? High possession getters?

Holman would have had close to 16 in the first quarter. Did drop off after that but no way 16 for the game.
 
aberdaberdo said:
Holman would have had close to 16 in the first quarter. Did drop off after that but no way 16 for the game.

Holman Vs Gluschenko = Gluschenko wins. :thumbsu:
 
aberdaberdo said:
Holman would have had close to 16 in the first quarter. Did drop off after that but no way 16 for the game.

Holman did start very well... But like most of the onballers tired late in the game... Must have been hard work running on the ball in that sandpit.....

Funny how after all the recruits that were raved about it was good old OGGY that turned the momentum with a stellar 2nd half in the middle.....

** Anyone take a look at Craigieburn on teh weekend... can't remember a more convincing start in A grade or are Keilor Park that bad ??
 
sticks04 said:
Patterson didnt play. Apparently should be back in the next few weeks everything going well his calf.....

Keilor will defintely need his size if they are to compete with Quinn, Hoath, Winter etc etc....

He will be a welcome addition to Keilor's line up l think, l have played against the boy and l would have to say l rate him higher than A.Winter from Strathmore. :thumbsu:
 
Hard Ball Get said:
Sat back and read all the poasts regarding the West Coburg issue and I find it absolutly staggering that the player was not sacked. An absolute disgrace and it speaks volumes about the people that make decisions there.

If it's true and the club has not sacked the player that king hit the other, it's a disgrace, it may just be falling apart down at west coburg. :thumbsdown:
Went and watched Oak Park yesterday, it was great to see Oakers get up, not a bad effort by a team that has turned over a huge number of players.
 
Allears said:
He will be a welcome addition to Keilor's line up l think, l have played against the boy and l would have to say l rate him higher than A.Winter from Strathmore. :thumbsu:

Heard he's been advised not to play at all due to spinal problem.
 
Rhombus said:
Watched Abers vs Oak Park today.

Oak Park were about 7 goals up when I left half way through the 3rd qtr.

Very slick unit, disciplined and moved the ball well. Obviously lost a few players but will still trouble the top sides.

Was that Ziros No.11 who returned to play again? He kicked 4-5 and looked really polished


oak park really seemed to tired late in most quarters. It was 8 goals to 1 at about the 20 mins mark of the first term. As with the oakers of old, they have a lot of go-ers and not many great players. Their depth is truely amazing. Grant Ziros absolutely smashed D.Mangin.

Other good players for Oak Park were, 21 (assume it was macnamarra) playing in the centre and not really moving from that spot at all, but did get a few possessions. number 43 played in the ruck for oak park and then ran as an on-baller. He didn't win a tap for the game, but dominated around the ground. And Albones good at full-foward along with Hatch that kept Sheppie realatively quite.

I see a few problems for Oak Park in that, they have no class in the mid field, and low endurance. Additionally they have no height all over the ground. They barely had a player over 6'1. But oak park will be ok because they are tough and wanted it alot more than abers.

Abers had good structure with good talls in all the right spots. Their foward line will be a handful for most back lines just in terms of height. SMC looks very fat but still knows how to get it, and will kick plenty of goals. Al Farag has a massive kick and lurks around half foward, looks a good player. Christain Day looks good down back, but gave away a free kick/50 m that cost abers massively in the last term. Saying that he played CHB and had no-one to man up on because OP had no tall foward.

Problems for abers are: they have NO midfielders. Number 9 and Harro dont make for a good paccey side. Their rucks are good in the taps, but should leave the field after that. Mangin has no position on the field now, because he cant fit up foward anymore. But most of all, Abers have NO midfielder.
 
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