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ffs let's move on from kicking Abers at every possible opportunity, it's getting tiresome.
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Good points.
I've always thought the EDFL "Bats Deeper".
If you look at the other leagues, their top teams will be as good as other metro leagues.
So a good indication is to look at the team that finished one place outside the finals.
EDFL - Greenvale
GFL - Sth Barwon
EFL - Rowville
NFL - West Preston Lakeside
Which team is stronger??? I would argue that Greenvale would be a 10 goal better team than the other three teams.
Just my opinion.
The depth of the VAFA is easily the strongest in the state by a long long way. Granted there may be not much in it between the 'top' clubs across all leagues as most comps have a few standout teams. Such as your old xavs (except this year), south barwon, greenvale etc
A st kevins or Old Melbournians (VAFA B Grade) would beat any EDFL, NFL etc by a long long way. and an even bigger margin when you compare the quality of the c grade teams across the leagues. Hell old xavs, de la and st bernards 19s would probably thump most edfl c grade teams.
Some of the money that genuine 'hacks' are getting in metro footy (especially edfl) is delusional...actually is bloody hillarious come to think of it!
EDFL is just an ok league, a bit hot and cold IMO. Some of the grounds and facilities are an absolute shambles, marby park would have to be a contender for the worst ground in the north/western suburbs
over and out
even bigger margin when you compare the quality of the c grade teams across the leagues. Hell old xavs, de la and st bernards 19s would probably thump most edfl c grade teams.
Your full if sh1te, VAFA is the most over rated comp. StBernards who finished 2nd is made up of blokes who couldnt get games at Strathmore and Abers so go off and play for there school.
Funnily enough the EDFL seems to get overrated by those involved in it and underrated by those outside of it.
Reality is, it doesn't mean a damn thing whether a club in a different comp is better or worse.. I doubt that Strathmore players care about how their side compares to Colac, Deer Park etc..
The depth of the VAFA is easily the strongest in the state by a long long way. Granted there may be not much in it between the 'top' clubs across all leagues as most comps have a few standout teams. Such as your old xavs (except this year), south barwon, greenvale etc
A st kevins or Old Melbournians (VAFA B Grade) would beat any EDFL, NFL etc by a long long way. and an even bigger margin when you compare the quality of the c grade teams across the leagues. Hell old xavs, de la and st bernards 19s would probably thump most edfl c grade teams.
Some of the money that genuine 'hacks' are getting in metro footy (especially edfl) is delusional...actually is bloody hillarious come to think of it!
EDFL is just an ok league, a bit hot and cold IMO. Some of the grounds and facilities are an absolute shambles, marby park would have to be a contender for the worst ground in the north/western suburbs
over and out
Certainly can't disagree with you about the money floating around, particularly from blokes coming out of the VFL Development League (thinking they've played VFL footy) demanding big dollars.
In regards to B Grade VAFA sides beating the top echelon of Clubs in EDFL Premier Division, that's laughable.
St Kevin's or Old Melburnians wouldn't get within 10 goals of Abers or Strathmore. Both sides too tall, too strong and would have more 'elite' players within their line ups. Kefford, Rose or Grima would kick 10 against their often undersized and young full backs, whilst Mark Blake or Daniel Jones would have a field day in the rucks.
This is the same Daniel Jones that played at Marcellin in Premier C? Big dude and very good player, but I think he found the undersized backs a little harder to handle than everyone first thought.
I wouldn't underestimate these undersized backs, they seem to perform pretty well against the big fellas from the Country and EFL. There is a young chap going around at De La named Tom Humphrey who would handle any of these forwards quite easily.
I recall speaking to Daniel Donati, coach of Balwyn, and he couldn't believe how good an undersized back from PEGS (Premier C) named Ryan Jones was. Kept Luke (?) Barker who is the premier forward in the EFL goalless in a practice match last year. He said he would have rated him as one of the best backs he has seen.
Re: comparing teams - its a pointless exercise.
This is the same Daniel Jones that played at Marcellin in Premier C? Big dude and very good player, but I think he found the undersized backs a little harder to handle than everyone first thought.
I wouldn't underestimate these undersized backs, they seem to perform pretty well against the big fellas from the Country and EFL. There is a young chap going around at De La named Tom Humphrey who would handle any of these forwards quite easily.
I recall speaking to Daniel Donati, coach of Balwyn, and he couldn't believe how good an undersized back from PEGS (Premier C) named Ryan Jones was. Kept Luke (?) Barker who is the premier forward in the EFL goalless in a practice match last year. He said he would have rated him as one of the best backs he has seen.
Re: comparing teams - its a pointless exercise.
He's a ruckman first and foremost and from memory De La are in Premier aren't they?
Agree though - we could go around in circles all day.
Didn't he kick 100 a couple of times for Strathmore?
And yes, De La have been Premier A for about the last 10 years.
I find it a more interesting exercise than just comparing teams, to look at how players perform from comp to comp as they move about to try and judge the standard. Looking specifically at the VAFA, i can think of a couple of guys over just the past 5 years that have come into the league having been 100 goal a season players elsewhere, and not getting close when playing VAFA. Dylan Chaplin-Burch kicked 100 goals in the GFL, yet hasn't been able to get into the seniors on a regular basis at Collegians in A Grade. Damien Yze has 100 goal seasons across 4-5 different leagues, yet couldn't get more than about 54 in a season in around 3 years with Old Carey in A Grade. And that was with ex-AFL players running through their midfield. The season after he left he went to the WRFL and slotted around 140 that season. I think that VAFA defenses are the hardest to play against in metro footy. Even a VFL great like Nick Sautner averaged under 4 goals a game in the VAFA.
Haha - number one ruckman at Strathmore. Last century goal kicker was Tim Harvey at Strathmore wasn't it? Jones nowhere near a century goal kicker
I believe Jones has retired. Probably why Mores recruited Sikora and also Simon Potter. Jones was an excellent player for Strathmore over 3 seasons in 2 stints. 3 GF's and 2 flags.Hey there Sloth, just a question on another subject. Is Jones still at Strathmore as they have recruited Sikora to play ruck ( he can't play anywhere else and 6'10) so if Jones is still there where will he play this year.. Sikora will be the number 1 ruck and will play almost the whole game on the small Strathmore ground.
Interesting one!!!
Hey there Sloth, just a question on another subject. Is Jones still at Strathmore as they have recruited Sikora to play ruck ( he can't play anywhere else and 6'10) so if Jones is still there where will he play this year.. Sikora will be the number 1 ruck and will play almost the whole game on the small Strathmore ground.
Interesting one!!!
The reason these guys kicked a hundred in other comps because the delivery was a lot betterPenski said:I find it a more interesting exercise than just comparing teams, to look at how players perform from comp to comp as they move about to try and judge the standard. Looking specifically at the VAFA, i can think of a couple of guys over just the past 5 years that have come into the league having been 100 goal a season players elsewhere, and not getting close when playing VAFA. Dylan Chaplin-Burch kicked 100 goals in the GFL, yet hasn't been able to get into the seniors on a regular basis at Collegians in A Grade. Damien Yze has 100 goal seasons across 4-5 different leagues, yet couldn't get more than about 54 in a season in around 3 years with Old Carey in A Grade. And that was with ex-AFL players running through their midfield. The season after he left he went to the WRFL and slotted around 140 that season. I think that VAFA defenses are the hardest to play against in metro footy. Even a VFL great like Nick Sautner averaged under 4 goals a game in the VAFA.
Certainly can't disagree with you about the money floating around, particularly from blokes coming out of the VFL Development League (thinking they've played VFL footy) demanding big dollars.
In regards to B Grade VAFA sides beating the top echelon of Clubs in EDFL Premier Division, that's laughable.
St Kevin's or Old Melburnians wouldn't get within 10 goals of Abers or Strathmore. Both sides too tall, too strong and would have more 'elite' players within their line ups. Kefford, Rose or Grima would kick 10 against their often undersized and young full backs, whilst Mark Blake or Daniel Jones would have a field day in the rucks.
There would be more in the EDFL you would think considering it's supposed to be one of the highest paying leagues & we all know everyone plays for love in the ammosJust out of interest how many ex AFL players play A grade VAFA vs EDFL?
That's correct - some 2014 Abers players heading to Sunshine. Hallinan has spoken to 29 players from our 2014 list and landed about 7...
However I don't believe Mal has anything to do with Sunshine and he's said he'd be at Abers round 1 if that's anything to go by.