Player Watch Edward Allan

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To me at worst he is a goal to goal wingman and more skilled version Kamdyn McIntosh who can play 200 games.

Its whether he can utilise his size aerially and his pace to become an A grade mid. Maybe he can maybe he cant either way very happy with him.

Interesting to see Jyhe Clarke has struggled to get more than 9 touches in his first 2 VFL games.
Noticed that the Cat's board have jumped off the Jyhe Clarke bandwagon pretty quickly - they're already calling out as a recruiting mistake. Interesting too how the tone has changed regarding last year's recruiting "coup". One poster posted that maybe the Suns will get the best of the Bowes trade!
 
Hawthorn's new president was another. Who, like a few of these types, was later played out of position at Brisbane to go up against monster CHFs.
It used to be the norm for wingman to be strong overhead - Millane and Brown for instance, Millane was our primary kick out target (when his thumb wasn't broken), but the preference has gone to running and linking wingmen in the modern game - I don't think that will change in a hurry.
 
It used to be the norm for wingman to be strong overhead - Millane and Brown for instance, but the preference has gone to running and linking in the modern game
WHE seems the ideal of this type of player, including being strong overhead. Maybe not the toughness of Brown and Millane, but not Robinson Crusoe there.
 

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Noticed that the Cat's board have jumped off the Jyhe Clarke bandwagon pretty quickly - they're already calling out as a recruiting mistake. Interesting too how the tone has changed regarding last year's recruiting "coup". One poster posted that maybe the Suns will get the best of the Bowes trade!
Their recruiting period was with a longer term view than their supporters are used to.
 
Matthew Richardson & Blicavs say hi. Not trying to be a smart a**, as I agree. Its been done before though, with a big impact IF you have the right player. Buddy and Cameron have also dominated when switched to wing type roles, but youre obv giving up a lot when moving them away from goals.

Ed has yet to show much aerial work though, as I think he prefers the inside / run / outside work more, rather than outside / run / aerial combo. May come though...
fair call indeed
Im not sure if its splitting hairs, bit it is interesting that those 2 have proper aerial games
I think you are right thad Ed isnt so aerial at this stage, so Wood is noticable to me because he has been remodelled around his running in particular.

Anyway, early days for Ed. It seems he has a lot of attributes, but the challenge for him will be able to really frank them by finding ways to use them and get a mismatch on opponents. He will likely need to use his tank, and then either learn to use his burst speed or height in some way.
 
Goodes also says he. Wasn't his second Brownlow as a wingman?
yesssss, exactly... was going to add him too. FTR, Goodes as an on-baller / wingman was the most dominant player I've ever seen in football. Marking everything all over the ground, with his opponent/s unable to get near it (likewise Kouta). Thats the prototype footballer imo. Not too disimilar to Cripps, but quicker & more athletic. Not asking for much here Ed..... :D
 
WHE seems the ideal of this type of player, including being strong overhead. Maybe not the toughness of Brown and Millane, but not Robinson Crusoe there.
The issue for us with going the marking target on the wing is that it would take away a player from our linking running chains. Hence why I think they were playing Lipinski rather than WHE to chop out there in the preseason.
 
Mackenzie has Merret type potential, whereas Allan has Judd type traits. I know which one I’d prefer…
Mackenzie is actually displaying that potential in real time. Allan has shown none of the explosive breakaway speed Judd did. A player that just tests well in the 20m sprint and plays midfield doesn't correlate to comps with Judd. No one has ever watched Allan in juniors and thought he's stylistically anything remotely like Chris Judd. He's more Mundy like than Judd. His 20m sprint is irrelevant for football, because it's not directly translatable, and we know that from draftees breaking 20m sprint records and never displaying anything like it at AFL level, where some of the most explosive AFL players around tested avg in that sprint.
 
Mackenzie is actually displaying that potential in real time. Allan has shown none of the explosive breakaway speed Judd did. A player that just tests well in the 20m sprint and plays midfield doesn't correlate to comps with Judd. No one has ever watched Allan in juniors and thought he's stylistically anything remotely like Chris Judd. He's more Mundy like than Judd. His 20m sprint is irrelevant for football, because it's not directly translatable, and we know that from draftees breaking 20m sprint records and never displaying anything like it at AFL level, where some of the most explosive AFL players around tested avg in that sprint.
Speak to some Western Australians. They'll explain it to you.
 
Mackenzie is actually displaying that potential in real time. Allan has shown none of the explosive breakaway speed Judd did. A player that just tests well in the 20m sprint and plays midfield doesn't correlate to comps with Judd. No one has ever watched Allan in juniors and thought he's stylistically anything remotely like Chris Judd. He's more Mundy like than Judd. His 20m sprint is irrelevant for football, because it's not directly translatable, and we know that from draftees breaking 20m sprint records and never displaying anything like it at AFL level, where some of the most explosive AFL players around tested avg in that sprint.

Well Allan been Injured does not help
 
From watching Edward he is a little Andrew Embley like and a bit Juddy.
The wing is also a position he is not used to playing.
Inside midfielder. Looking great on a wing though.
 
It used to be the norm for wingman to be strong overhead - Millane and Brown for instance, Millane was our primary kick out target (when his thumb wasn't broken), but the preference has gone to running and linking wingmen in the modern game - I don't think that will change in a hurry.
Robbie Dean was the best wingman aerialist we ever had. He was a magnificent high/contested mark. Watch the first half of the 1970 GF or the prelim in 1973 against Richmond. When he moved to South Melbourne because they promised to play him at centre half forward, he kicked 8 goals in his first game and 6 against us at Vic Park the following week!


 
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Robbie Dean was the best wingman aerialist we ever had. He was a magnificent high/contested mark. Watch the first half of the 1970 GF or the prelim in 1973 against Richmond. When he moved to South Melbourne because they promised to play him at centre half forward, he kicked 8 goals in his first game and 6 against us at Vic Park the following week!



I loved watching Robbie Dean. For a number of years (when the horrible term "colliwobbles" was coming into vogue) he was rightly regarded as just about Collingwood's only consistent finals performer. Fantastic player.
 

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Allan nothing like Judd unfortunately.

I have hopes he can become a poor man's Kouta, but even that is a very high bar. I,e, a tall quick, running wingman who can mark it overhead and decent enough by foot.
 
Reminds me a bit like Blake Acres, hopefully with our improved development system, he will track far better and turn into an Embley type player.
 
I loved watching Robbie Dean. For a number of years (when the horrible term "colliwobbles" was coming into vogue) he was rightly regarded as just about Collingwood's only consistent finals performer. Fantastic player.
Robbie was another of those what ifs - what if he'd stayed at Collingwood?
We've let so many great players go for BS reasons, going as far back as Ron Todd.
Ron became persona non grata because Williamstown offered him a lot more money than Collingwood would pay him.
 
Robbie was another of those what ifs - what if he'd stayed at Collingwood?
We've let so many great players go for BS reasons, going as far back as Ron Todd.
Ron became persona non grata because Williamstown offered him a lot more money than Collingwood would pay him.
And also have not picked up players offered to us for peanuts.
Bernie Quinlan, Plugger and others I forget. Do not want to remember.

Admin is everything in a well run club.
 
And also have not picked up players offered to us for peanuts.
Bernie Quinlan, Plugger and others I forget. Do not want to remember.

Admin is everything in a well run club.
How many flags if we'd recruited Superboot & Plugger?
Speaking of Plugger, I almost didn't recognise him in the footage of the St Kilda 150th stuff.
He is so lean in the face he looks almost completely different.
 
A bit premature, but the potential is certainly there.
Dekka couldn't pick him quickly enough when he slipped through to us!
Trust in FJ. Edward will set us alight.
Fly just yesterday was saying how impressed he is by him in his presser.
He was the one I wanted in the draft and couldn't believe we managed to get him.
 
I loved watching Robbie Dean. For a number of years (when the horrible term "colliwobbles" was coming into vogue) he was rightly regarded as just about Collingwood's only consistent finals performer. Fantastic player.
Yes! He was always one of our best. He was courageous too.
 
Trust in FJ. Edward will set us alight.
Fly just yesterday was saying how impressed he is by him in his presser.
He was the one I wanted in the draft and couldn't believe we managed to get him.
I don't disagree, but I'd like to see a few senior games from him to confirm his quality.
 

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