Society/Culture Elon Musk - Takeover of Twitter?

[Ghost Patrol]

But they viciously hate Greta Thunberg.

 

[evolved2]

Even if that was the case

Why wouldn’t he just simply apologise for any angst and show some empathy and explain he understands why people would be shocked by the action

Instead he jokes about it in order to inflame the situation further

I agree he should apologise, but he wont.

The Trump administration won't apologise for much - and I can understand why. They are here to pushback against the far left (who also never apologise).

The political pendulum never stops swinging.

 

[CM86]

I didn't see the footage before the outrage became public so can't say how I would have viewed it in isolation.

So before you even saw the footage, you put it down to 'autism'.
Why lie like this?

Most people found out about it due to the outrage. That doesn't mean you saw it and thought 'autism'.
Everyone saw the same thing, it's just how they felt about it that's different.

It's not a good look, sure, but I don't see it as the major issue that some do. There are better reasons to be outraged over the Trump administration than this.

You can do multiple things.
You can accept that the wealthiest man in the world did something incredibly questionable, that aligns with a lot of other questionable things he has been a part of recently.

You can also defend it and act like it was done in total isolation, and attack anyone who is critical of it.

The large-scale adoption of EV vehicles is a game changer that offsets anything he's done wrong thus far afaic.

No, what has he done to undermine the neo-Nazis who have taken it as an endorsement from the wealthiest man in the world, who stands alongside the US President?

It's insane that you'd pretend that his involvement in EV is just a blanket pardon.
You'd never give Fauci the same defense.

Twitter (or X) is weird, but not materially weirder than reddit. I visit reddit and the SRP for outrageous LW views and twitter for outrageous RW views - it keeps me balanced in hatred for the lot of you!

OK. What's a fairly regular or repeated "outrageous LW view" on SRP what you'd say is balanced with holocaust denial, rape threats, doxing etc?

There is none.
It's not about 'weird'.

Musk himself retweets this stuff.
And then threatens to sue anyone that calls him out.

But SRP is pretty much the same, in your mind.

We know what we're getting with Trump and Elon. You won't get apologies for anything.

What does he have to apologise over?



How would you shut them down? And why won't Musk? Actually ask yourself this.

Centrism isn't saying 'Holocaust denial is bad, but gluing your hand to the road is also bad'.

 

[CM86]

The ADL criticised Elon over his follow-up offensive jokes. They're not scared of calling Elon out.

What follow-up offensive jokes??

 

[CM86]

I agree he should apologise, but he wont.

The Trump administration won't apologise for much - and I can understand why. They are here to pushback against the far left (who also never apologise).

The political pendulum never stops swinging.

That's interesting, if you really think that way.

 

[evolved2]

Is there an opposing viewpoint when it comes to Nazis? I'd suggest not.

My view is that nazism is largely irrelevant. There are bigger fish to fry.

 

[CM86]

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/adl-elon-musk-nazi-jokes-1235244824/

After a year-long truce between Elon Musk, owner of the extremism-saturated X (formerly Twitter), and the Anti-Defamation League, an organization meant to combat antisemitism and other kinds of bigotry, it seems the billionaire and the advocacy group are on the outs once again.​

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Musk and the ADL had first taken shots at each other during a spat in 2023, with the nonprofit saying X had allowed an explosion of hate speech under Musk’s watch, and the billionaire countering that they were trying to smear him while stifling free speech. He even amplified a hashtag, #B#BanTheADLthat white supremacists used to call for the removal of the organization from the website, and blamed the ADL for a precipitous drop in ad revenue as brands ditched the app because of the rise in harmful content that it and other watchdogs had warned about.​

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But following Hamas‘ Oct. 7 attack on Israel that year, Musk and ADL chief executive Jonathan Greenblatt came to an agreement about the need to restrict language on the platform associated with the Palestinian liberation movement. Musk also made symbolic visits to Israel and Auschwitz that seemed to further smooth things over.​

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Musk faced outrage for making a gesture at the event that white nationalists recognized (and celebrated) as a Nazi salute, the ADL urged people to give the billionaire — who has allowed pro-Nazi accounts to flourish on his platform — a pass.​

That explains the ADL initial position.

But Musk made little attempt to allay concerns that he had thrown a “Sieg Heil” at a lectern bearing the United States presidential seal. Indeed, he seemed to enjoy the controversy, and continued to stoke it on Thursday with a series of Nazi-related puns. “Don’t say Hess to Nazi accusations!” he wrote in a post on X that also included the line “Some people will Goebbels anything down!” as well as the baffling non-sequitur “His pronouns would’ve been He/Himmler!” (X CEO Linda Yaccarino responded to all this with a laugh-crying emoji.)​

I had no idea that he'd doubled down.

How the **** is anyone still defending this?

 

[evolved2]

What follow-up offensive jokes??

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/23/elon-musk-nazi-joke-adl

 

[Financialpanther]

The ADL criticised Elon over his follow-up offensive jokes. They're not scared of calling Elon out.

I mean come on - their secondary call out was a position of getting the first call badly wrong.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

My view is that nazism is largely irrelevant. There are bigger fish to fry.

Elon is the biggest fish.

 

[CM86]

My view is that nazism is largely irrelevant. There are bigger fish to fry.

What is relevant, in your mind?
Posts on the SRP?
A few activists who 'glue their hands to the road'?

If the wealthiest man in the world - who runs one of the most influential social media platforms in the world - who is partnered with arguably the most powerful man in the world... empowering neo-Nazis and white supremacists across the world isn't an issue to you...

I'd say it's because you're not against it.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I'd say it's because you're not against it.

Absolutely correct. Another one cosplaying as a trolling centrist.



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[evolved2]

What is relevant, in your mind?

Plenty.

Posts on the SRP?

Irrelevant also, but a window into the mind of the far left. Fwiw, this place is better than reddit in terms of free speech.

A few activists who 'glue their hands to the road'?

Inconveniencing people is very relevant if you want to win public approval. If that doesn't matter, protesters can keep inconveniencing people.

If the wealthiest man in the world - who runs one of the most influential social media platforms in the world - who is partnered with arguably the most powerful man in the world... empowering neo-Nazis and white supremacists across the world isn't an issue to you...

I'd say it's because you're not against it.

Yawn.

The right don't talk to centrists that way.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

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The right don't talk to centrists that way.

Oh no. Are your feelings hurt because you’re defending the use of a nazi salute?



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[Ghost Patrol]

The right don't talk to centrists that way.

Ah yes, the famously tolerant right. Tickling the belly of fascists.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

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He’s a nazi. And anyone disagreeing is one also, or has half a brain.


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[evolved2]

Ah yes, the famously tolerant right. Tickling the belly of fascists.

And the left is even worse. They're far more pragmatic and you're dogmatic.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

And the left is even worse. They're far more pragmatic and you're dogmatic.

Have Jews been enabling white self hatred?

Do Germans need to stop feeling guilty about the holocaust?


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[lizard man]

how is a conversation about elon musk, a guy who is apart of the trump administration doing a Nazi salute turn into “the left is even worse”

 

[jannissary]

the only people who aren’t saying it was a nazi salute are the brown nosing sycophants who think it’ll better their lowly position in life. holocaust historians, lazy experts, nazis themselves all agree that it was intentional.

not often you’ll get those three agreeing on much.

i do recall seeing a video shared somewhere of him doing a similar gesture with both hands. the only benefit of the doubt i can afford him is that he was in a khole & was too spaced to realise what he’d done.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

how is a conversation about elon musk, a guy who is apart of the trump administration doing a Nazi salute turn into “the left is even worse”

Apparently it wasn't a nazi salute. He was just pointing 'look over there'

 

[evolved2]

Have Jews been enabling white self hatred?

White self-hatred seems to be a thing, but I see no reason to blame Jews.

Do Germans need to stop feeling guilty about the holocaust?


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Anyone who wasn't a part of it shouldn't feel guilt.

 

[jannissary]

how is a conversation about elon musk, a guy who is apart of the trump administration doing a Nazi salute turn into “the left is even worse”

conservatives frequently engage in whataboutism when their shitty points are easily argued against

 

[RCAB]

They say you learn something new everyday - today I learned the ADL is nazi adjacent.

I suspect some of you spend far too long in leftist echo chambers.

I spend most of my time in right-wing echo chambers, unless I’m on BigFooty.

Most of my friends and family are right-wing, and many of the YouTube channels I watch are as well.

They want Trump to be Emperor until he dies. Fact.

Elon was hailed as a savant and genius up until about a week ago, seen as playing 4D chess for half a decade. Now, all of a sudden, he’s being characterised as having mental disorders or limited mental capacity.

Elon’s IQ is probably around 105–110 (maybe up to 115, though I doubt it), similar to Hitler. Smart enough to be one of the smartest people in a room, but completely insecure because he realises he’s galaxies away from true genius. He’s constantly wanting, seeking, and needing approval as a great intellect.

The comparison to Hitler wasn’t accidental, but it’s more nuanced than it seems. This same IQ level, combined with similar insecurities, is what drove Hitler. It’s what motivated him to hold so many ignorant and conspiracy-driven beliefs—just as we now see with Elon.

 

[Saint Shags]

In context of the speech and the man, I'm more inclined to view it as the awkward act of an autistic person.

Can we simply **** this off.

He had the ability to explain himself and instead he made a joke about it.
In essence he doubled down.

Not sure about you but the autistic people I teach and live with would be horrified and apologise for any confusion whatsoever.