Coach Fages and the coaching group

[Nunez]

Coaches are on a hiding to nothing when they start having a crack at journalists about something they write.

Fages has been around long enough to know this.

Besides which Mike said next to nothing.

Never complain ,never explain. I think The Queen said that.

Did you listen to Fagans comments around the incident?

 

[martinson]

Did you listen to Fagans comments around the incident?

No.

But only what's been reported in the media.

Which was kind of my point. Just don't go there.

 

[Nunez]

No.

But only what's been reported in the media.

Which was kind of my point. Just don't go there.

I mean, it may be worth listening to what Chris said about it instead of relying on the media who have blown things away out of proportion.

 

[martinson]

I mean, it may be worth listening to what Chris said about it instead of relying on the media who have blown things away out of proportion.

I'm not relying on the media for truth or perspective.

What I am saying is getting involved in that situation , either by design or accident, never does you any favours.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

I think Fages has earned the right to see out his contract, but shouldn't be offered another one unless he wins a flag by then. 7 years is long enough before you need new ideas.

 

[jasonrampage2010]

Wow if true

 

[Gadzorks]

Wow if true

Wow wow wow.

If that's true, it's immense for us.

 

[Morbidly_Obese]

Wow if true

LMFAO fake news like the mcstay to collingwood rumours.

 

[M Malice]

LMFAO fake news like the mcstay to collingwood rumours.

Agree, similar to the Lachie Neale to the Lions rumours a few years ago.

 

[Hollow Knight]

When it comes to reliability, SEN rumours are usually on the same tier as rumours written in excrement on train station bathroom walls.

 

[martinson]

When it comes to reliability, SEN rumours are usually on the same tier as rumours written in excrement on train station bathroom walls.

With anything written in excrement on bathroom walls at least you know where it's come from.

 

[davemc_lions]

When it comes to reliability, SEN rumours are usually on the same tier as rumours written in excrement on train station bathroom walls.

24 hour talk back line where we need things to talk about, if it true or not who cares.

 

[Morbidly_Obese]

When it comes to reliability, SEN rumours are usually on the same tier as rumours written in excrement on train station bathroom walls.

Those aren't rumours the voices in my head swear it's the truth.

 

[LIONS08]

When it comes to reliability, SEN rumours are usually on the same tier as rumours written in excrement on train station bathroom walls.

I used to think the same until last year! They have a few callers who get a bit of mail! One led me to get on Fly to be the pies coach when he was still over $40! Was a rather handy collect haha

 

[ItsRaynerGoals]

If wasn’t callers to the station, Gaze raised it first then Maher confirmed he heard it this morning. Both reported they were informed that it is being lead by Fages. Who knows though.

 

[trikster]

coz ya know, everyone can be right. Not sure which is more open to contradiction and rumour, trades or coach hires

 

[Viceregal]

So just for a change the Kangas are throwing a bucket load of cash at the problem ... wonder if it works better on coaches than it does on players!

 

[martinson]

coz ya know, everyone can be right. Not sure which is more open to contradiction and rumour, trades or coach hires

That's so funny.

Does anyone think Clarkson's silly enough to go for it .

Or perhaps smart enough to get the absolute world if he does.

If true it shows that they haven't worked out that many things need to change before you worry about who the coach is . Of which there would be many capable candidates.

 

[lioninthesand]

I had joked with family some sort of Clarkson and Fagan reuniting would make sense.

I could see Fagan opting to move to director of footy and inviting Clarko in as coach, so much of that feels possible.

Clarko wants a flag in 5 years list, where else will he find that?

Fagan might just want what’s best for the club and if he thinks Clarko can bring that and he can use his unique relationship with him to open that door, why not?

All I’ll say is..I’m getting messages galore saying it’s true, Clarko and Fages have been working on it, Clarkos Daughter lives in QLD, Fagan to footy ops, Clarko on a 5 year deal, he was at the club 2 weeks ago, he bought a house in QLD, my friend who works at the club said it’s a done deal.

Reasons I categorically do not think it’s true/possible/will happen.

Fagan will want to see out his deal, even if he didn’t…

Fagan would be on $600-800k you’d imagine, so does he leave that on that table? Does he keep that wage and move to director of footy? How do we fit him on 800k and Clarko in on 1.4m respectively, when we just had coaches take pay cuts and we have no coin.

Clarko is coming back for a payday, even if the idea was perfect, there’s no way it’s happening or we could afford it - hell you could get 2 highly rated, senior assistants for half of Clarkos wage and we won’t even do that.

 

[Grasshopper17]

There was a contest I saw right in front of me on the weekend. Midway through the 4th quarter, 11 points down. We win a centre clearance, get the ball in deep and generate a deep F50 stoppage. We have repeat stoppages and increasing pressur - lots of wrestling for the ball. Essendon just manage to win it but hack kick it to teh opposite side of the ground under the pressure from Charlie and Lyons. Its 2 v 1 Sharp/Madden vs one Essendon bloke. Harry goes to block the Essendon player leaving Madden to the ball. Unfortunately Madden gets under the ball and it bounces in between. The Essendon player outmuscles both of these players and scrubs a kick out of the 50 - towards the wing and then Stringer wins a one-on-one against someone (?Lester) and toes the ball towards our HB line for a stoppage. Instantly all that pressure is gone and we have to now defend. How is a coach responsible for that? We should have had a turnover in the F50 - possibly a centered pass into the middle for an easy shot. Instead we get sent back to our own defense and have to waste another 5 minutes building pressure. Ah Chee/Answerth/Pryor/Coleman in any 2 player combination would not have let that happen. Calling for Fagan's head after the Bombers match is pure irrational behaviour.

Partly it's the fault of the coach(es) because our players have, in the main, been conditioned to run, not to win contests. It's why we got belted by Geelong in 2020, it's why we got belted by Melbourne in Round 15, and it's why the contest you refer to went down like it did. We need to bulk up, and we need to do so in October, before we get back into our preseason running, so we learn to run with that extra size. That's what the dynasty team did - in fact, they didn't achieve anything until they did this, despite all the potential they had before that. Yes, I know footy has changed in 20 years, but this has not changed. Just ask Jack Viney.

 

[davemc_lions]

I had joked with family some sort of Clarkson and Fagan reuniting would make sense.

I could see Fagan opting to move to director of footy and inviting Clarko in as coach, so much of that feels possible.

Clarko wants a flag in 5 years list, where else will he find that?

Fagan might just want what’s best for the club and if he thinks Clarko can bring that and he can use his unique relationship with him to open that door, why not?

All I’ll say is..I’m getting messages galore saying it’s true, Clarko and Fages have been working on it, Clarkos Daughter lives in QLD, Fagan to footy ops, Clarko on a 5 year deal, he was at the club 2 weeks ago, he bought a house in QLD, my friend who works at the club said it’s a done deal.

Reasons I categorically do not think it’s true/possible/will happen.

Fagan will want to see out his deal, even if he didn’t…

Fagan would be on $600-800k you’d imagine, so does he leave that on that table? Does he keep that wage and move to director of footy? How do we fit him on 800k and Clarko in on 1.4m respectively, when we just had coaches take pay cuts and we have no coin.

Clarko is coming back for a payday, even if the idea was perfect, there’s no way it’s happening or we could afford it - hell you could get 2 highly rated, senior assistants for half of Clarkos wage and we won’t even do that.

I said a few times it make sense if they could make it work.
Although I do not think it would happen with us. I think Tassie team they could get back together for.

 

[lioninthesand]

I said a few times it make sense if they could make it work.
Although I do not think it would happen with us. I think Tassie team they could get back together for.

With the Tassie team, I agree it makes a lot of sense.

Only thing is - he has referenced ‘being older’, ‘won’t be involved in footy forever’, when Charlie signed his contract he said ‘that’ll mean he’ll be here longer than I will’.

He is perfect for tassie but its 5-10 years away and he will want to enjoy his retirement with his wife at some stage, reckon Tassie would be only in a very limited capacity if any.

 

[Nunez]

I had joked with family some sort of Clarkson and Fagan reuniting would make sense.

I could see Fagan opting to move to director of footy and inviting Clarko in as coach, so much of that feels possible.

Clarko wants a flag in 5 years list, where else will he find that?

Fagan might just want what’s best for the club and if he thinks Clarko can bring that and he can use his unique relationship with him to open that door, why not?

All I’ll say is..I’m getting messages galore saying it’s true, Clarko and Fages have been working on it, Clarkos Daughter lives in QLD, Fagan to footy ops, Clarko on a 5 year deal, he was at the club 2 weeks ago, he bought a house in QLD, my friend who works at the club said it’s a done deal.

Reasons I categorically do not think it’s true/possible/will happen.

Fagan will want to see out his deal, even if he didn’t…

Fagan would be on $600-800k you’d imagine, so does he leave that on that table? Does he keep that wage and move to director of footy? How do we fit him on 800k and Clarko in on 1.4m respectively, when we just had coaches take pay cuts and we have no coin.

Clarko is coming back for a payday, even if the idea was perfect, there’s no way it’s happening or we could afford it - hell you could get 2 highly rated, senior assistants for half of Clarkos wage and we won’t even do that.

Wrong account Mighty Lions

 

[lioninthesand]

Like I say every year when this convo comes up.

-I heard about Charlie to Brissy 6 months before it was mentioned officially in any news media through the rumour cycle on talk back, twitter and BF.
- the beams stuff coming and going was all through the rumour cycle, we all knew unofficially about Beams to brissy weeks before it broke.

I reckon 50% of stuff you hear through those cycles has some truth to it, makes sense, people work in these clubs and talk to these people - things are gonna get out.

It doesent always land but I bet there’s some truth to it, it might be something as small as Fages called Clarko to see if he would be interested in a senior assistant role, they might have just had a coffee, Fages might have joked ‘I’ll step down if Clarko wants to coach here’ in the office and someone took it literally.

It might also be click bait BS.

 

[dlanod]

I reckon 50% of stuff you hear through those cycles has some truth to it, makes sense, people work in these clubs and talk to these people - things are gonna get out.

Worth noting that it massively depends where you hear it from. SEN callers or a random mate who doesn't usually get mail - drop it to 1%. Known connections are probably about the 50% mark. Reports in the media a bit higher again because most will at least try to check if there's an explicit denial.