I see the original name still reverberates with some of you.Most Port fans have seen multiple premierships at state and national level, they also saw their club make it to the national league where every non Vic club failed including Ports most bitter rivals in SA.
They’ve always been a battler club and it’s always been an ‘us against the establishment’ thing, albeit a very successful one, so money issues and dealing with the big bad arseholes at league head office etc are day to day that the club have always overcome.
Moving to a proper ground at AO and being free from SANFL control alleviated the misery of being held back by those that hated us the most.
From the misery angle, there’s the Guernsey issue and the fact we have to share the state with the West Lakes Franchise as well as not being able to win multiple AFL premised ships as yet, so that would put us pretty high again I guess.
In contrast, The Crows have had literally every advantage possible handed to them on a silver platter and have just won the spoon.
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Yeah, there’s literally no misery for a Hawk fan, unless you expect to win the flag every year and get down on that.
With 10 flags in my lifetime the index is broken.
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Yes it is. Various studies have found that wealth is a huge factor in overall happiness. But it is diminishing returns. I'm going from memory here and it was a few years ago but I think an Australian study found after about $200k annual income further wealth doesn't add anything to your happiness.
It has for me that’s for sure.
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Agree.
Could add way more layers.
Just went with a basic idea
I was assuming a footy following period of 50 years.
10 to 60.
Give or take.
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This here is some deep psychological shit.Most Port fans have seen multiple premierships at state and national level, they also saw their club make it to the national league where every non Vic club failed including Ports most bitter rivals in SA.
They’ve always been a battler club and it’s always been an ‘us against the establishment’ thing, albeit a very successful one, so money issues and dealing with the big bad arseholes at league head office etc are day to day that the club have always overcome.
Moving to a proper ground at AO and being free from SANFL control alleviated the misery of being held back by those that hated us the most.
From the misery angle, there’s the Guernsey issue and the fact we have to share the state with the West Lakes Franchise as well as not being able to win multiple AFL premised ships as yet, so that would put us pretty high again I guess
In contrast, The Crows have had literally every advantage possible handed to them on a silver platter and have just won the spoon.
I suspect that one day the saints will do a four-peat when all their good luck finally hits!
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You are no spring chicken.
I tried to vaguely normalise the index to a median age with a bias toward bigfooty posters.
I made up (without any actual knowledge) that the median bigfooty poster was about 45 odd.
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True. But plenty of that misery now rests with the dead.
I'm not counting that misery.
I consider it extinguished or lapsed misery.
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It's now more than a 'patch'.
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Well my index is very basic at this stage.
Only considers GF and Prelim wins.
GC the only side not to register either.
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The Bolton years were pretty bloody miserable.
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Saints fans had one heck of a ride olin 09 and 10.
not sure many demons fans have had many highs in the last 50 years.
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Sorry but loads of people have told me that I have recency bias and it is absolute nonsense!!!
Seems to people who think they have some knowledge of statistics.
But ur just wrong wrong wrong
I'm not measuring "which club has the most flags".
We know that already mate.
I'm not measuring all the joy of dead people!
I'm measuring joy of current and active fans with a focus on bigfooty readers.
I'm not counting the joy that Cecil Flanagan had in 1930.
So no I totally reject the recency bias criticism.
I am totally discounting old flags.
What true and actual joy do you get from reading about a flag before u were born???
Sorry. But it's not true joy.
If I'm wrong, then please explain to me how you enjoyed the 1938 flag??
I'm all ears. Did u dance in the streets? Call ur mates? Go to the post game party?
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Mate.
Tell me how much joy U get from flags before u were born?
I'm open minded.
Give me a try.
How many times have u watched the 1908 season DVD?
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Probably should have had as many Premierships as their cousins Port Adelaide in the SANFL.
Probably should have had as many Premierships as their cousins Port Adelaide in the SANFL.
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Even as a neutral supporter i have watched that one several times actually. Love me a good early 1900 Grand Final
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It depends a lot on age. I've seen 4 flags in my lifetime so still more than most clubs despite our recent crapness.
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“Focus on Big Footy readers” ... How?
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Not very subtle JaB (pun intended).
Ironic coming from someone following the paper bag club.
Raised the level of thinking of thread. Well done.
Rambling on about strawman arguments only demonstrates how weak your position is. Either that or you have the limited perspective of a 12yo.
So good for you, you didn't count older flags. And good for me, because of that, I think your index suck ass and is utterly pointless.
Not bothering to reply to you from here. Wasted enough time opening this stupid thread.
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Just wait. If the Hawks meander in mediocrity for some time yet (which they will), check your index then. Your club will be knocking on the door of irrelevance if you don't return to the top in the next 6-10 years, and personally, I can't see that happening. Particularly, if the push to get a Tassie team gathers steam and the Tasmanian government doesn't extend your lucrative deal. You'd need to find some more budgies to sign up.
Whilst it wasn't 10, I saw 5 before I turned 20 and was feeling quite smug. 3 decades was a long time to wait.
Richmond before their breakthrough in 2017 reminded me of Parramatta. Highly successful in the 70s/early 80s then a massive drought.
I still remember missing the 09 NRL GF because I was out to dinner with the missus and had recorded it. I was going to great lengths not to find out the score. We pulled into a servo on the way home and sitting in the car I look across the road to the pub and there is the most despondent guy I have ever seen, viciously beating the street lamp with his Eels scarf. I never ended up watching that game.
I still remember missing the 09 NRL GF because I was out to dinner with the missus and had recorded it. I was going to great lengths not to find out the score. We pulled into a servo on the way home and sitting in the car I look across the road to the pub and there is the most despondent guy I have ever seen, viciously beating the street lamp with his Eels scarf. I never ended up watching that game.
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