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martinson said:
He doesn't have the talent or speed of Johnson imo but he's physically more imposing and just as hard at it when he's able to get near the ball.

There's been a lot of debate about Cam in the backline and I wouldn't be against trying it out if it doesn't detract from other positions on the ground.
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I'd say he has just as much talent as Johnson, he just hasn't harnessed it yet. Rayner has a good burst or speed but you're right, he can't sprint down the entire wing like Johnson could.
 
scott_the_man said:
I'd say he has just as much talent as Johnson, he just hasn't harnessed it yet. Rayner has a good burst or speed but you're right, he can't sprint down the entire wing like Johnson could.
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I remember when Johnno started at Fitzroy and he was just an elite talent but didn't have the physicality or anyone looking after him there and that didn't come till he got to Brisbane. Cam on the other hand has the physicality and attack on the ball but imo is sometimes sloppy in how he goes about it and until some occasions last year far too rushed in his disposal. Just an interesting sidenote when Johnno went for a speccy he often nailed it whereas Cam gets up there but usually spills it.
 

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weevil said:
I see him as simply a reporter and not an analyst. Does that make him an idiot?
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Fair point. An overly harsh description on my part. Partially a reaction to the smugness he radiates.
 
martinson said:
I remember when Johnno started at Fitzroy and he was just an elite talent but didn't have the physicality or anyone looking after him there and that didn't come till he got to Brisbane. Cam on the other hand has the physicality and attack on the ball but imo is sometimes sloppy in how he goes about it and until some occasions last year far too rushed in his disposal. Just an interesting sidenote when Johnno went for a speccy he often nailed it whereas Cam gets up there but usually spills it.
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And Johnno also played as a forward at Fitzroy, but was way better when played in defence. He was a straight line player similar to cam imo.
 
A possible side for round 1 taking into account the pre season scuttlebutt and some media talk ie Roar Deal.

Brandon Starcevich, Jack Payne, Connor McKenna.
Daniel Rich, Harris Andrews, Cam Rayner.

Oscar McInerney, Lachie Neale, Josh Dunkley.
Hugh McCluggage, Jarrod Berry(W), Darcy Wilmot(W).

Charlie Cameron, Eric Hipwood, Lincoln McCarthy.
Jack Gunston, Joe Daniher, Zac Bailey.

Dev Robertson, Will Ashcroft, Keidean Coleman, Dayne Zorko.

TS- Fort/Tunstill/Lohmann/Prior/Answerth.
 
M Malice said:
A possible side for round 1 taking into account the pre season scuttlebutt and some media talk ie Roar Deal.

Brandon Starcevich, Jack Payne, Connor McKenna.
Daniel Rich, Harris Andrews, Cam Rayner.

Oscar McInerney, Lachie Neale, Josh Dunkley.
Hugh McCluggage, Jarrod Berry(W), Darcy Wilmot(W).

Charlie Cameron, Eric Hipwood, Lincoln McCarthy.
Jack Gunston, Joe Daniher, Zac Bailey.

Dev Robertson, Will Ashcroft, Keidean Coleman, Dayne Zorko.

TS- Fort/Tunstill/Lohmann/Prior/Answerth.
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I still think we go 3 talls in defence with Rayner going back to his usual fwd/mid position. Unfortunately Dev out and either Gardiner (if available) or Fullarton in.
I really like the idea of Tunstill on the wing but Mike Whiting had good things to say about Wilmot in that position so without seeing it myself I’ll take his word for it.
 
If only we could get our back 6/7 more settled.
Over the past few years this has not been the case.
Going into round one we could once again have an unsettled backline.
Let's assume Rayner is playing 3rd tall as precaution for Gardiner possibly not available for the first few rounds.

Most likely it will be Starcevich, Rich, Andrews who have played together for a while.
Coleman joined that group about round 6 last year so played 18 games last year and about 6 the previous year with the above 3 players.
Rayner knows all the above players but has not played an AFL game in defense yet.
Looks like McKenna may get that HB spot as Wilmot playing wing and Answerth has yet to play a sim.
McKenna has not played AFL for a few years and yet to play an AFL game with any of our back 6/7.
Payne has been in and out of the team but strung together 12 games last year due to injuries.

Individually all the named players can play good footy, but can they gel together in defense. Let's hope so.
When Gardiner comes back in the dynamics change considerably but our defense group will still be a little inexperienced.
 
Section 5 said:
If only we could get our back 6/7 more settled.
Over the past few years this has not been the case.
Going into round one we could once again have an unsettled backline.
Let's assume Rayner is playing 3rd tall as precaution for Gardiner possibly not available for the first few rounds.

Most likely it will be Starcevich, Rich, Andrews who have played together for a while.
Coleman joined that group about round 6 last year so played 18 games last year and about 6 the previous year with the above 3 players.
Rayner knows all the above players but has not played an AFL game in defense yet.
Looks like McKenna may get that HB spot as Wilmot playing wing and Answerth has yet to play a sim.
McKenna has not played AFL for a few years and yet to play an AFL game with any of our back 6/7.
Payne has been in and out of the team but strung together 12 games last year due to injuries.

Individually all the named players can play good footy, but can they gel together in defense. Let's hope so.
When Gardiner comes back in the dynamics change considerably but our defense group will still be a little inexperienced.
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Hopefully the continuity will build throughout the year and settled come Finals.
 

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One last crack before the next two weeks change my mind, particularly in regards to the wings.

B. Gardiner. Andrews. Starcevich
HB. Coleman. Payne. Rich
C. Berry. McCluggage. Wilmot
R. McInerney. Neale. Dunkley
HF. Gunston. Hipwood. Bailey
F. Cameron. Daniher. McCarthy
IC. Rayner. Zorko. McKenna. Robertson
S. Tunstill
 
Mighty Lions said:
Kai Lohmann is an exciting young player...should be match fit to play against Geelong early next month and will be fascinating how he performs and how they could fit him into the first 22.
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I don't disagree with you, in fact more likely agree, but is that just your opinion or is it coming from inside the club or from mail you are getting from someone inside the club?
 
pulpdriver said:
One last crack before the next two weeks change my mind, particularly in regards to the wings.

B. Gardiner. Andrews. Starcevich
HB. Coleman. Payne. Rich
C. Berry. McCluggage. Wilmot
R. McInerney. Neale. Dunkley
HF. Gunston. Hipwood. Bailey
F. Cameron. Daniher. McCarthy
IC. Rayner. Zorko. McKenna. Robertson
S. Tunstill
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Just realised I forgot Ashcroft so this belongs in the trash.
 
KissKiss said:
I like the look of Lohman but man I struggle to see where he gets 1sts game time with an injury (or big form slump). Not sure how he can push out Charlie, Linc, Bailey, Zorko, McCluggage, Rayner, Ashcroft, etc for a small forward or mid/forward spot
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I like him, but I think McCarthy might be in a bit of trouble. Just goes missing for too long in games.

Blokes like Tunstill, Lohmann, and Wilmot are breathing down his neck.
 
Robertson is best 22. He, Dunkley and Ashcroft just add so much in their spread and two way running. Add a fit Berry to that group and we will have the best two way running midfield and wings in the league.
 
Nunez said:
Robertson is best 22. He, Dunkley and Ashcroft just add so much in their spread and two way running. Add a fit Berry to that group and we will have the best two way running midfield and wings in the league.
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It’s certainly an improvement on past years but I’m not sure they can compare with Petracca, Oliver, Langdon, Brayshaw, Hunter just yet
 
Warwick said:
It’s certainly an improvement on past years but I’m not sure they can compare with Petracca, Oliver, Langdon, Brayshaw, Hunter just yet
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I'd back Neale, Dunkley, McCluggage, Ashcroft & Berry in. Especially so when you consider Rayner, Bailey & Zorko as our second stringers and Jarrod Lyons as coverage. Bats very deep.

Edit: so deep I even left Robertson off the above list 😂
 
Nunez said:
Robertson is best 22. He, Dunkley and Ashcroft just add so much in their spread and two way running. Add a fit Berry to that group and we will have the best two way running midfield and wings in the league.
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Up with the best, anyhow.
 
Based on today's game

B. Rayner. Andrews. Starcevich
HB. Coleman. Payne. Rich
C. Berry. McCluggage. Wilmot
R. McInerney. Neale. Dunkley
HF. Gunston. Hipwood. Bailey
F. Cameron. Daniher. McCarthy
IC. Robertson. Zorko. McKenna. Ashcroft
S. Fort

E: Tunstill, Prior, Ah Chee, Joyce
 
mpal6 said:
Based on today's game

B. Rayner. Andrews. Starcevich
HB. Coleman. Payne. Rich
C. Berry. McCluggage. Wilmot
R. McInerney. Neale. Dunkley
HF. Gunston. Hipwood. Bailey
F. Cameron. Daniher. McCarthy
IC. Robertson. Zorko. McKenna. Ashcroft
S. Fort

E: Tunstill, Prior, Ah Chee, Joyce
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Dizzy if he's fit - definitely need a third tall back against most teams. Too early to say Joyce is up to it.
 

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