Opinion First Choice Ruck - Pitto vs TDK

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

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Kemp (like Arrow has indicated) has attributes that suit forward 3rd tall. Namely Kemp is less great marking body on body. But very good in the clear or with a run and jump. That alone makes you think he could make a decent third tall forward as that role requires you to get up and down the ground leading away from your direct opponent. He has more speed than JSoS surely so another tick. Don't know about repeat running.

Despite all that, we have TDK, Kennedy and E Hollands that can all slot into that more physical 3rd tall forward role. Obv with Hollands its more just about quality of player rather than being considered a third tall.

I think they play one of those 3 in JSoS's role. It's also testament to JSoS who a lot mark down on this forum. He holds out those type of players from the third tall spot because of what he offers the team.

I should clarify my post.
I think TDK should be #1 ruck, so was referring to Kemp in the fwd/2nd ruck role that JSOS has played.

 

[JustOneTime]

I should clarify my post.
I think TDK should be #1 ruck, so was referring to Kemp in the fwd/2nd ruck role that JSOS has played.

Got it. Kemp is 2 cm shorter and 3kgs lighter and is more like an interceptor than a body on body player. Personally, I think he would be absolutely DESTROYED in the ruck. But Grigg does come to mind...

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

Cannot see Kemp being trailed in the ruck, if not still developing as a defender, he should be played up forward…
He doesn’t possess the same all round attributes as JSOS in playing the role…

 

[branedotorg]

Cannot see Kemp being trailed in the ruck, if not still developing as a defender, he should be played up forward…
He doesn’t possess the same all round attributes as JSOS in playing the role…

He certainly presents more laconic than JSOS who is a guy who always commits to a contest, something an undersized ruck needs to do.

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

He certainly presents more laconic than JSOS who is a guy who always commits to a contest, something an undersized ruck needs to do.

The eye test i think he definitely isn’t built for the ruck contest’s, that’s fairly straightforward…

 

[Love the Drake]

I think the JSOS injury has helped Voss double down on his preference of playing TDK & Pitto.

If we are to be in contention, TDK has to build on his second half of 2023 and become our no. 1 ruck, with Pitto providing valuable support.

Big year for TDK as we also need him improving his forward craft and giving H & C a chop out.

In another interesting twist, O’Keefe and Mirkov should see this as a great opportunity and steel themselves for a massive preseason.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Would a half developed Mirkov be any less effective than a half fit Pitto?
I'd like to see him trialled if Pitto isn't at least 90% good.

 

[Arr0w]

Mirkov still building a fitness base after surgery, but right now a 70% Pitto is still well ahead

Personally, I think HOK plays before Mirkov

 

[gbatman]

Replacing Silvagni the forward is easy. Replacing the forward/ruck role, that's the hard part. TDK and Pitto are first 22, but how many games do we expect them to miss this season? 5-10? Either can play 1st ruck. Only TDK can play forward/ruck. When one is out we need to find that second ruck who can go forward and that will be the challenge for us this season.

 

[Aphrodite]

Pittonet previews Carlton's 2024 ruck dynamic

Marc Pittonet speaks on how Carlton's regular ruck duo will feature in 2024.

www.carltonfc.com.au

 

[ferrisb]

I was just writing about the quarterly performance of the company TDK (yes, the one that made tapes in the 80s.... does amazing things to my system...)

I noticed a few things

• They massively beat expectations in their third quarter (premiership quarter!)
• They performed much better than last year
• They increased their expectations for the rest of 2024

Just thought you'd like to know.... Hoping to see similar trends from our TDK

 

[JustOneTime]

Looks like this has morphed into a TDK/Mckay vs TDK / Pitto version with JSoS out.

With Pitto unfit, it is a no brainer to access extra speed (opting for TDk/Mckay) vs Brissy who ran all over us last year in the prelim.

When Pitto presents the best version of himself, then it is a different proposition to consider.

 

[Revenant1965]

Worth a bump...?
Pitto is good, but... I am more and more moving to TDK+H...

 

[Arr0w]

Both can happily exist in the same side, which played out during finals last year

Bonus now, we have more options

 

[M_I_G]

I like how Pitto plays but I’m firmly in camp ‘TDK only’ and have been for a few weeks.
Someone else said “with pitto, we gain a little, but lose a lot”
TDK held his own today, only watched at game so gotta watch a replay but stats wise

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Trade Pitto if TDK is deemed #1.

If Pitto is deemed #1 and with JSOS to return, who the **** knows. Seems too top heavy imo

 

[BlueJet]

A better game from TDK.
Pittonet is the preferred no.1 ruck.
Hopefully we can continue to blend the two into an effective setup.

 

[no fate]

The guy sitting next to me at today's game said it well - "If Pitto's role is to play about 10-12 games and give TDK a rest when he needs it then I'll be happy with that." I thought TDK + Crippa and Walsh smashed them today, we were really all over them in the middle almost all day. Witts has killed us in the past but not so today, TDK very good.

 

[I bleed Blue]

Our midfield looks better when we just play TDK as the solo ruck.

Stick with it. Let the man thrive.

 

[macky99]

A better game from TDK.
Pittonet is the preferred no.1 ruck.
Hopefully we can continue to blend the two into an effective setup.

TDK is going to grow more if he is given the number 1 role, it also provides the team a little more run.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

I'm happy with either TDK or Pitto, prefer TDK, but form, fitness and game time should decide which way we go.
Just so long as it's 1 ruckman only and allow some mobility and pressure in the forward half.

We played 2 rucks against Grundy last week. He mauled both of them, 1 or 2 rucks wouldn't have changed anything.
I believe there are very few rucks in the whole competition that influence the game enough to make a meaningful difference.(maybe Grundy, Gawn and Marshall)

 

[Michael Jezz]

Just be blessed we have the choice between a bulk and athletic ruckman. It will be horses for courses

 

[branedotorg]

Regardless of the choice I think the team looks better with 1 ruck and a couple of others doing cameos.

Too top heavy and too slow with two rucks plus 2-3 talls at each end.

 

[BlueJet]

TDK is going to grow more if he is given the number 1 role, it also provides the team a little more run.

If he earns it, sure.
The match committee on exposed form has Pitt as no.1.
TDK played out of his skin today, which was great. More please.

 

[macky99]

If he earns it, sure.
The match committee on exposed form has Pitt as no.1.
TDK played out of his skin today, which was great. More please.

ln terms Pitto being number one, probably more because he can only play one position, hence why TDK plays forward when they play together.
TDK is ready to evolve just needs the number one role.