Roast Four Quarters

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Mar 1, 2002
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Ertvania
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"If you can't play four quarters you're wasting your time." Jarrad McVeigh pointedly stated after the Fremantle game in this article.

John Longmire agrees. ''We have shown signs of it at times but we really haven't put together a real four quarters of consistent performance for quite a while,'' Longmire said.

While it is a positive that the club acknowledges this was an issue on the weekend, as Horse rightly points out we haven't done it for quite a while. Certainly not this year at least.

But this problem has been going on longer than that. Here's a quote from a very astute poster who claimed in October last year that we didn't do it in 2010 either and if we continued in the same vein things would turn a little sour in 2011

Something the Swans will have to do in 2011 if they want to improve their ladder position is play 4 quarters. Looking back on 2010 I can't recall a game off the top of my head where the Swans had there foot on the pedal for more than a half a game. The plan seemed to be blitz a team for half the game, then tread water for the other half. Sometimes they hung on as their opponent came back, other times they were over-run. Even early in the season when the blew the likes of Adelaide, Richmond, North and West Coast away, they did it in 1 or 2 quarters.

Only twice did it come back to bite us - in Round 14 against Richmond, and in the Semi against the Dogs - but next year is another story.

If we can figure out how to play 4 quarters regularly, we'll give the top 4 a big shake.
Continue to play half a game and get lucky in the close ones, we'll scrape into the 8 a la 2010.
Play half a game and get unlucky in the close ones it'll be a slide down the ladder.

Swans could end up anywhere in 2011. They could win the premiership, they could finish last - neither would shock me.
But if it's top 4 they want, they need to up the intensity a notch.

But I'm going to go further back. The last four quarter performance I remember from the Swans was in 2006. Round 7 against Richmond to be precise, and we were reigning premiers at the peak of our powers back then. If anyone can remember a four quarter effort since then feel free to correct me.

Even the famous finals series of 2005 the plan of attack seemed to be "Let the other team take control, then pull off an amazing come from behind, against the odds victory." The 2006 Grand Final is a classic example of what happens when this plan doesn't quite come to fruition.

Of course the other side of the ledger is that we don't let other teams dominate us either. A recent article on the AFL website gave the statistic that we are the only team since the year 2000 to not suffer a 100 point loss - and in the same period we've only lost 5 games by more than 60.

While that's a pleasing statistic there's no denying it's completely frustrating to watch a capable team blitz their opponents for 10 minutes only to go missing for the next two quarters. The Brisbane game earlier this year neatly underlines the point. We tore the Lions apart in that first half, but watching the second half one couldn't help but wonder whether the players were thinking about possibly getting a window seat on the flight home.

If we put in a consistent effort for four quarters we are capable of beating any team in this competition including Collingwood. Until that day comes, enjoy watching us blow crucial games to the Adelaides and Fremantles of this world.
 
Bah.

Red Card Offense;)

Still very true and very much on the money. People expected too much and didn't see our flaws. This was one that has been around for years and hasn't been worked on nor fixed and now we see the end result.
 
Well done Ert, the overrating of our own side by our own fans is shone through the performances we've had this season so far, considering the past decade where we have finished, ladder position, we are not getting the "best" draft selections nor the chance to give enough "young bloods" game time due to our competitive nature throughout the years and then on in finals. Don't get me wrong, I love finals when the Swans are a part of it, and not to forget the "never say die" attitude of the Bloods, but the question has to be asked, to go UP, do you first you need to go DOWN? (Carlton for example) Either way I guess, will always support the Sydney Swans through good times and bad :)
 

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Our gameplan under Roos was simply a perfect example of damage mitigation. It's why we were so successful, even though you can't really remember us dominating for four quarters.

We don't have that damage mitigation in place any more (slow the game down, keep position if we see the other team get a run on). It's why we are being hurt more now by not being able to play four quarters. Back in the old days, as you mentioned, if we only played well for three quarters, we had a plan in place to ensure that during that one quarter, we wouldn't get damaged much on the score board. Think about it - I can't count all the times I remember seeing a "The Swans haven't scored [insert number] minutes" thing pop up in the corner on the TV. And that was when we were winning a flag and playing in another Grand Final. Because if we couldn't score for 25 minutes, we'd make sure the opposition could only kick 2 or 3 goals.

Perfect example is the Geelong semi in 05. They dominated us until the final quarter but I don't think they ever got more than 4 goals ahead.

Now, we get things like the Fremantle game, where that one poor quarter effectively means game over because teams are putting 6 or 7 against us in a row. It started happening around the end of 2009.
 
We've actually won more 2nd quarters than any other :)

Quarters won:
1st: 9
2nd 10
3rd 7
4th 9
 
If I see or hear one more press piece about us needing to play 4 quarters I'm going to check myself into a psych hospital.
 
Yeah, pretty sick of hearing about it too. That and lifting our intensity.

Tell the media to F off and use the time practicing not being shit.
 

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Still not four quarters. Letting the Dogs back in to hit the front in the second term was another dreadful surfacing of our inability to keep the foot on the throat of teams we're clearly better than.
 
Still not four quarters. Letting the Dogs back in to hit the front in the second term was another dreadful surfacing of our inability to keep the foot on the throat of teams we're clearly better than.

Or, you know, they played a bit better than us for a little while. That does happen, you know. It doesn't mean we took the foot off the gas, it doesn't mean we lost concentration. Sometimes consecutive goals just fall that way, sometimes the opposition just clicks a bit.

The only really frustrating part was the first quarter in which we played all over them but couldn't put it on the scoreboard (sound familiar? It should). But aside from that, it was a good, "four quarter" effort.
 
Still not four quarters. Letting the Dogs back in to hit the front in the second term was another dreadful surfacing of our inability to keep the foot on the throat of teams we're clearly better than.

We won all four quarters, so that equals a four quarter effort to me. We can't be dominant for every minute of play you know.
 
Close enough to it, yes.

10 minute lapse in the second that could have been costly, but steadied with a late goal to stop the flow.

The trick is maintaining that for the rest of the year.
I for one do not want to see any more goalless quarters by us.
 
We were the beneficiaries of a bulldogs team lacking enough midfielders with the willingness to work hard both ways, so lets not get too carried away.

But that was about as close as we could hope for to a 4 quarter effort.

Having Kieren Jack at full fitness, or close to, seems to make a huge difference to our team.
 
If we win 4 quarters that is a 4 quarter effort. Best we've played for many weeks. Jack and Bird gave the side more bite. Best game the captain has played. Some bigger challenges ahead.
 
I'm loving the way Craig Bird is coming on this year. Hopefully, he can become that goalkicking midfielder we need. I was starting to doubt it, hopefully, he can continue on proving me wrong.


Birdy was always going to be a seriously good player. He's just had some poorly timed injuries that have hampered his development. I think there's still a lot of improvement left in him too.
 

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